Cheap Chinese Amps

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ooo000ooo

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2,530 posts

194 months

Monday 20th November 2017
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I picked up a cheap A/V amp (30 quid delivered on ebay) but my sub is passive.
Could I use one of these 20 quid amps to power the sub until I pick up an active sub?
My lovely wife isn't impressed that I'm buying shiny things I don't really need this close to Xmas smile

hyphen

26,262 posts

90 months

Monday 20th November 2017
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What is the power output of the £20 sub, and what is the power rating of your sub.

ooo000ooo

Original Poster:

2,530 posts

194 months

Monday 20th November 2017
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hyphen said:
What is the power output of the £20 sub, and what is the power rating of your sub.
output allegedly 20 watts, I have no idea what the sub is rated at but probably not a lot.

legzr1

3,848 posts

139 months

Monday 20th November 2017
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Don't waste your money.

Personally I'd pick up a cheap active sub (lots appear on avforums starting at under £100) and use until the one you want appears/is affordable - buy wisely then move it on once the replacement is sourced.

A true 20W would probably just get a bass driver moving, those cheapie Chinese amps will be nowhere near a true 20W.

ooo000ooo

Original Poster:

2,530 posts

194 months

Monday 20th November 2017
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legzr1 said:
Don't waste your money.

Personally I'd pick up a cheap active sub (lots appear on avforums starting at under £100) and use until the one you want appears/is affordable - buy wisely then move it on once the replacement is sourced.

A true 20W would probably just get a bass driver moving, those cheapie Chinese amps will be nowhere near a true 20W.
I think it's 20W into 4 ohms or 10 into 8.



legzr1

3,848 posts

139 months

Monday 20th November 2017
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Got a link to the amp?

Doubling down as impedance halfs is normally the preserve of large, well designed power supplies - read expensive!

Not wanting to burst bubbles here but I can't see it working to any decent level whatsoever.

There's a Kef sub being offered at £85 on avforums that would suit far better - there's an excellent chance it will be all you need!

ooo000ooo

Original Poster:

2,530 posts

194 months

Monday 20th November 2017
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much cheapness

I'm not looking earth shattering mega bass, just something to give a bit of background bass

hyphen

26,262 posts

90 months

Monday 20th November 2017
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Do you know how efficient your sub is?

It may be worth just ordering one, trying it, and if not good then send it back. Amazon tend to be good with returns.

legzr1

3,848 posts

139 months

Monday 20th November 2017
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ooo000ooo said:
much cheapness

I'm not looking earth shattering mega bass, just something to give a bit of background bass
They're great for little near field monitoring (sat on a desktop near a PC for example) driving small speakers to reasonable levels but I think you'd be disappointed with it attempting to drive a passive sub, especially if it's a sealed box. If the sub is ported the idea of trying then returning might be worthwhile.
But..£24 saved not buying it and £24 for your used sub gets you very close to the active Kef sub I mentioned earlier.

https://www.avforums.com/threads/kef-htbc-htc3001....

ooo000ooo

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194 months

Monday 20th November 2017
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It's just a crappy sub off my existing blue ray surround sound combo system. It's 4 ohm max 80 watts, no other specs on the sticker.
Amazon returns if it's crap is an option smile

Crackie

6,386 posts

242 months

Monday 20th November 2017
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You may not want to have something so 'primitive' in your setup but one of these would be ideal I think. https://www.amazon.co.uk/WINGONEER-TPA3116D2-chann...

It will supply a genuine 100w into 3 ohms when fed with a 24v power supply. See blue trace figure 25 on page 12 here http://www.ti.com/lit/ds/symlink/tpa3116d2.pdf.

If you use an 18V DC supply ( Laptop supply ) the output will be ideal for your application......output will be 65wpc. Very easy to hook up.

1) Mono Signal in + / - 2) Speaker out + / - 3) Power in + / -

Please note this would be very straight forward for someone who is happy to remove the plug from the power supply and use bare wires to feed the amp circuit board. Some may not be happy to cut the plug off, check the +/- polarity etc. If that is the case, ask a local TV or computer repair shop to verify this for you.

ooo000ooo

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Monday 20th November 2017
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I prefer bodged instead of primitive.
I like the look of that smile
I have a couple of old laptop chargers, wire cutters and duct tape.
House insurance should cover the fire damage.

Crackie

6,386 posts

242 months

Monday 20th November 2017
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ooo000ooo said:
I prefer bodged instead of primitive.
I like the look of that smile
I have a couple of old laptop chargers, wire cutters and duct tape.
House insurance should cover the fire damage.
hehe

The latest chip amps from Texas Instruments, Analog Devices, STMicroelectronics etc are very good and particularly good for bass. Good luck ( and check your insurance premium is up to date )

ooo000ooo

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Monday 20th November 2017
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Order placed beer

Crackie

6,386 posts

242 months

Monday 20th November 2017
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ooo000ooo said:
Order placed beer
Nice one...........please keep us updated once you're up and running. All the best.....

ooo000ooo

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194 months

Wednesday 6th December 2017
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The first amp went out of stock so I cancelled and bought the cheaper WINGONEER DC 12V-24V TPA3116 D2 100W for a bargain £9.99.
Delivered yesterday and I bodged it together last night. Had a bit of a false start with a dodgy phono cable which made for a lot of hissing and buzzing and not much else but eventually sorted it out. Haven't fiddled too much with it so far but it's providing a bit of bass, which was the aim.
the wife is out to night so will play about with it later, assuming it doesn't set my house on fire before I get home.

hyphen

26,262 posts

90 months

Thursday 7th December 2017
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Still alive?

ooo000ooo

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194 months

Thursday 7th December 2017
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So far so good. Only issue I've noticed is an annoying buzz when the AV amp is on standby and nothing going to the cheap amp. Easily fixed by turning it off at the wall. Might just be a bad connection.

Crackie

6,386 posts

242 months

Friday 8th December 2017
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Please to hear you're up and running thumbup

Interesting that there is a buzz when the AV amp is on standby. Have you tried using a different interconnect or dressing the cables differently ? i.e. making sure the interconnect is reasonable far away from any power cabling.

ooo000ooo

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Friday 8th December 2017
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It was thrown together with whatever I could find in the garage and squashed into the box of an old TV aerial amplifier to stop the dog sticking her nose into it.