How do we think EU negotiations will go? (Vol 2)

[Troubleatmill]

jjlynn27 said:

Calm down. Is 'plaque' of locusts supposed to be very scary?

Seems that most leave voters were so scared of Turkey joining EU and them muslims coming over 'ere and living next to honest, God-fearing folk, that they didn't pay attention to anything else.

For details, check Cummings et al.

My question dear Sir was...."Any Remainers wish to discuss Osborne, Carney, IMF lies..."

A simple YES or NO will suffice.

Defelection on other done to death arse gravy isn't needed. Immigration? Several hundred pages? Remoaners? Several hundred pages? Ha Ha Ha - you idiot type insults?? Most posts than I care to recall.

What has not been properly debated - is the lies of Osborne, Carney, IMF etc - and why voters ignored them?
Whatever side of the argument you are on - surely it is of some interest.

[anonymous-user]

Troubleatmill said:

My question dear Sir was...."Any Remainers wish to discuss Osborne, Carney, IMF lies..."

A simple YES or NO will suffice.

Defelection on other done to death arse gravy isn't needed. Immigration? Several hundred pages? Remoaners? Several hundred pages? Ha Ha Ha - you idiot type insults?? Most posts than I care to recall.

What has not been properly debated - is the lies of Osborne, Carney, IMF etc - and why voters ignored them?
Whatever side of the argument you are on - surely it is of some interest.

If you want to talk about Osbourne or Carey go for it, I'd like to hear why voters ignored them.

[barryrs]

I would say because many had already decided before the referendum was called and the campaign became background noise.

[Harry Biscuit]

jjlynn27 said:

Calm down. Is 'plaque' of locusts supposed to be very scary?

Seems that most leave voters were so scared of Turkey joining EU and them muslims coming over 'ere and living next to honest, God-fearing folk, that they didn't pay attention to anything else.

For details, check Cummings et al.

Finger on the corpse, as usual.

[jjlynn27]

Troubleatmill said:

My question dear Sir was...."Any Remainers wish to discuss Osborne, Carney, IMF lies..."

A simple YES or NO will suffice.

Defelection on other done to death arse gravy isn't needed. Immigration? Several hundred pages? Remoaners? Several hundred pages? Ha Ha Ha - you idiot type insults?? Most posts than I care to recall.

What has not been properly debated - is the lies of Osborne, Carney, IMF etc - and why voters ignored them?
Whatever side of the argument you are on - surely it is of some interest.

It was explained to you in the post above. You want to 'properly debate' yet type cretinous 'plaque' of locusts. The bus that you seem so obsessed with, was there unlike your 'plaque' that you can't even spell. You seemingly can't differentiate between a lie and economic prediction.


I'll try to make it as simple as possible; If Mildred and Elmer, are so petrified that 70mil Turks are going to move in next door to them, even putting aside the fact that they don't understand the difference between fiscal and monetary policy, they are hardly going to hear anything else. Not sure what's confusing you?

(usual caveats apply)

[jjlynn27]

barryrs said:

I would say because many had already decided before the referendum was called and the campaign became background noise.

Indeed.



And that's just DM.

[don'tbesilly]

Ghibli said:

If you want to talk about Osbourne or Carey go for it, I'd like to hear why voters ignored them.

Osborne told voters interest rates would go up, mortgage rates would rise to levels that would cause serious problems for mortgage holders, there would be an emergency budget and a recession, all would happen within days/weeks of a vote to Leave on the 23rd June 2016.

Carney's message was not dissimilar.

For the record it's Osborne and Carney, not Osbourne or Carey.

[barryrs]

I accept those headlines will have influenced a significant number of people but using my own personal experience I don’t think it’s the majority.

I live in a pretty white working/middle class area and those headlines aren’t fears I hear expressed locally.

[anonymous-user]

don'tbesilly said:

Osborne told voters interest rates would go up, mortgage rates would rise to levels that would cause serious problems for mortgage holders, there would be an emergency budget and a recession, all would happen within days/weeks of a vote to Leave on the 23rd June 2016.

Carney's message was not dissimilar.

For the record it's Osborne and Carney, not Osbourne or Carey.

Can you link these comments from Osbourne. Days/weeks seems a bit sudden.

[B'stard Child]

Ghibli said:

Troubleatmill said:

My question dear Sir was...."Any Remainers wish to discuss Osborne, Carney, IMF lies..."

A simple YES or NO will suffice.

Defelection on other done to death arse gravy isn't needed. Immigration? Several hundred pages? Remoaners? Several hundred pages? Ha Ha Ha - you idiot type insults?? Most posts than I care to recall.

What has not been properly debated - is the lies of Osborne, Carney, IMF etc - and why voters ignored them?
Whatever side of the argument you are on - surely it is of some interest.

If you want to talk about Osbourne or Carey go for it, I'd like to hear why voters ignored them.

It's a bit like predictions of the weather

It's gonna rain tommorrow - I can believe that it rains a fair bit in the UK

It's gonna be gales for the next week - I can believe that as we do get windy weather frequently in the UK

It's gonna be the worst winter for decades - Possible but as the Daily Express runs that Headline every Autumn they do have the chance of being right once every 10 years so I think I'll see what the weather brings

It's gonna be the Hottest summer for decades - see above

There is gonna be a hurricane next week - Even Michael Fish ruled that one out but got it wrong so I can believe it

The whole of the UK is going to be buried in an ice age - all the rivers are going to freeze and we can ice skate on them

The last one is what Osborne and Carney offered - I didn't believe it.......

[don'tbesilly]

jjlynn27 said:

barryrs said:

I would say because many had already decided before the referendum was called and the campaign became background noise.

Indeed.



And that's just DM.

You can have some from the Express, blow them all up and you can paper your office, the cellar

[B'stard Child]

Oh and this one really captured a lot of elements for me

[don'tbesilly]

Ghibli said:

don'tbesilly said:

Osborne told voters interest rates would go up, mortgage rates would rise to levels that would cause serious problems for mortgage holders, there would be an emergency budget and a recession, all would happen within days/weeks of a vote to Leave on the 23rd June 2016.

Carney's message was not dissimilar.

For the record it's Osborne and Carney, not Osbourne or Carey.

Can you link these comments from Osbourne. Days/weeks seems a bit sudden.

Who's Osbourne?

If you google George Osborne you'll get the idea, you surely don't expect a Leaver to do research on their own behalf would you?

[The Dangerous Elk]

don'tbesilly said:

Who's Osbourne?

If you google George Osborne you'll get the idea, you surely don't expect a Leaver to do research on their own behalf would you?

Yep, a call out on a typo always wins on the internet, it gets a smack in the gob down the pub however. I guess you won tonight

[anonymous-user]

don'tbesilly said:

Who's Osbourne?

If you google George Osborne you'll get the idea, you surely don't expect a Leaver to do research on their own behalf would you?

To be honest I would expect BS from you and the reason I asked you the question is because I knew you wouldn't back up your claim.

[don'tbesilly]

Ghibli said:

don'tbesilly said:

Who's Osbourne?

If you google George Osborne you'll get the idea, you surely don't expect a Leaver to do research on their own behalf would you?

To be honest I would expect BS from you and the reason I asked you the question is because I knew you wouldn't back up your claim.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36355564

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendu...

Let me know if you want anymore

Next!

[anonymous-user]

don'tbesilly said:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendu...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendu...

Let me know if you want anymore

Next!

Can you post one up that says it will happen within days/weeks

That was my question.

[alfie2244]

Ghibli said:

don'tbesilly said:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendu...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendu...

Let me know if you want anymore

Next!

Can you post one up that says it will happen within days/weeks

That was my question.

Did you read it?

"George Osborne, together with the former Labour Chancellor Alistair Darling, vows today that the hit to the economy would be so great if we vote to leave the EU that he'd hold a Budget with cuts and tax rises almost immediately."

[checkmate91]

But, but it hasn't happened yet so the black hole hasn't opened yet. Brexit isn't a binary object, it's more of a glacier being calved into the ocean to find its own destiny.

Oh and the smell a rat pic a few posts above shouldn't in my view have John Major on show. Unless I'm completely mistaken he's the reason the UK isn't a Euro currency, which, I believe, Everyone thinks is a Good Thing.

Edited by checkmate91 on Thursday 18th January 22:36

[mx5nut]

B'stard Child said:

Oh and this one really captured a lot of elements for me

I can see why voters would want to defer to the "men of the people" on the other side