The Irish border
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Tuna said:
If I've read it properly (which I know is a bit of a challenge these days), the US 'passport app' is actually a mobile form filling app so you can fill in your customs declaration 'digitally' instead of on paper. It does not integrate with your passport. You have to present both the phone and your passport to the customs official on entry into the States.
It's remarkable that we develop an app that does integrate with your passport on phones that have the right hardware, and apparently it's the fault of the government that it doesn't include magic pixie dust that makes all phones read NFC tags. Next we'll have complaints that the online tax service doesn't allow you to fill in your tax return when you don't have a computer.
Just remember Tuna UK government incompetent, EU great. It's remarkable that we develop an app that does integrate with your passport on phones that have the right hardware, and apparently it's the fault of the government that it doesn't include magic pixie dust that makes all phones read NFC tags. Next we'll have complaints that the online tax service doesn't allow you to fill in your tax return when you don't have a computer.
Some think if they keep putting the UK down long enough we will gladly be ruled by Brussels instead.
Tuna said:
Mrr T said:
It seems the US have a passport app on the IPhone.
https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/national-media-releas...
Fortunately, our brexit borders will be in the more than capable hands on HMRC. As we all know HMRC have a reputation for delivering technology solutions on time and budget.
If I've read it properly (which I know is a bit of a challenge these days), the US 'passport app' is actually a mobile form filling app so you can fill in your customs declaration 'digitally' instead of on paper. It does not integrate with your passport. You have to present both the phone and your passport to the customs official on entry into the States. https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/national-media-releas...
Fortunately, our brexit borders will be in the more than capable hands on HMRC. As we all know HMRC have a reputation for delivering technology solutions on time and budget.
It's remarkable that we develop an app that does integrate with your passport on phones that have the right hardware, and apparently it's the fault of the government that it doesn't include magic pixie dust that makes all phones read NFC tags. Next we'll have complaints that the online tax service doesn't allow you to fill in your tax return when you don't have a computer.
Mrr T said:
I posted the link to the US app because they are similar. The BF app is to allow EU citizens resident in the UK to apply for the new settled status. This requires they upload passport details. Now I am assuming most applicants will still have old passports so no chip to read. So I think the problem is a bit more than not being able to read a chip.
As of 2008 there were at least 60 countries issuing ePassports and that has doubled since then. Given the replacement requirements are between 5 and 10 years for most countries, the majority of travellers are very likely to have chip-equipped documents. Just as a matter of interest, the first ePassport was issued twenty years ago. I don't know how old you are, but 'old passports' really are old now.It has to be pointed out that this app is not the only way to gain settled status - it's just a tool to speed up the process where possible. Or do you think we should all stick to quills and ink just in case someone gets left out?
In the case of Apple's lack of support, unless countries start providing tools like this there is no reason for the iPhone to spontaneously start supporting the standard. Gloria pretty much typifies the mindset that both sides must be wanting to apportion blame for something not going their way. He desperately wants the government to be at fault, and believes that Brexiteers are furious at Apple for similar reasons. Sometimes, it just is what it is. You guys are far too angry
SpeckledJim said:
majordad said:
Another UK Brexit referendum would solve the problem, and save the UK a lot of money in the medium term.
Only the racists will be really upset about keeping current immigration controls (that are still not fully used now) if we stay. Fck em. That's only a tiny part of the 17m that are really that fussed about it.
The rest will not be that bothered. There is not really any sovereignty at stake - that was fake news - and bendy bananas was just made up. No 350m bonus on offer either, so who cares? The lack of a pigs ear export bonanza to China will go unnoticed.
Edited by Gloria Slap on Wednesday 25th April 21:40
Yes but you all voted wrong, I'd say a second vote now would have you back in the EU Club as a full member. As someone earlier pointed out us Irish needed a second vote to see the foolishness of our first vote. There's nothing wrong with holding your hand up and saying we made a mistake first time. I'd imagine most UK voters would agree with me now.
Has anyone done a recent poll on what the result might be now and what was the result ?
Has anyone done a recent poll on what the result might be now and what was the result ?
majordad said:
Yes but you all voted wrong, I'd say a second vote now would have you back in the EU Club as a full member. As someone earlier pointed out us Irish needed a second vote to see the foolishness of our first vote. There's nothing wrong with holding your hand up and saying we made a mistake first time. I'd imagine most UK voters would agree with me now.
Has anyone done a recent poll on what the result might be now and what was the result ?
Best 3 out of 5? Has anyone done a recent poll on what the result might be now and what was the result ?
majordad said:
Yes but you all voted wrong, I'd say a second vote now would have you back in the EU Club as a full member. As someone earlier pointed out us Irish needed a second vote to see the foolishness of our first vote. There's nothing wrong with holding your hand up and saying we made a mistake first time. I'd imagine most UK voters would agree with me now.
Has anyone done a recent poll on what the result might be now and what was the result ?
Can we re run the 1975 vote? Do it again as we didn’t really ant to join. Has anyone done a recent poll on what the result might be now and what was the result ?
How about the last election let’s do it again what’s excluded from being to redo it?
Surely the 2016 vote leave was a re run of the 1975 so we got it wrong the first iime
majordad said:
Yes but you all voted wrong, I'd say a second vote now would have you back in the EU Club as a full member. As someone earlier pointed out us Irish needed a second vote to see the foolishness of our first vote. There's nothing wrong with holding your hand up and saying we made a mistake first time. I'd imagine most UK voters would agree with me now.
Has anyone done a recent poll on what the result might be now and what was the result ?
Good Idea but first we should wait until our economy is a basket case then it would be worth rejoining , and the ROI who managed to vote the" correct" way could be a net contributor Has anyone done a recent poll on what the result might be now and what was the result ?
once the EU corrects the corporate tax issue there !!! obviously the EU still needs the ROI to use as
a pawn first over the border issue first before you lot get hung out to dry , don't worry it's all in a good cause, got to keep the brussels gravy train running eh .
Gloria Slap said:
Look, I know we voted to trade in the Porsche for a Ferrari, but I don’t want to talk about the Trabant that we are now being offered.
I’m changing the car no matter what, OK! cos we decided and we can never take stock and reflect on decisions cos that is how smart we is.
You wat M8 !!!!I’m changing the car no matter what, OK! cos we decided and we can never take stock and reflect on decisions cos that is how smart we is.
majordad said:
Yes but you all voted wrong, I'd say a second vote now would have you back in the EU Club as a full member. As someone earlier pointed out us Irish needed a second vote to see the foolishness of our first vote. There's nothing wrong with holding your hand up and saying we made a mistake first time. I'd imagine most UK voters would agree with me now.
Has anyone done a recent poll on what the result might be now and what was the result ?
I think it would be very close. Very few people have changed their mind. Has anyone done a recent poll on what the result might be now and what was the result ?
On the remain side, I think a lot of the lazy youth would turn out in a second referendum to vote remain. They didn't vote as they didn't think they could lose.
And on the leave side, there would be a lot of energy put into getting out the vote amongst mild leavers who perhaps didn't vote previously as they didn't think they would win.
A higher turnout would be certain. As would be some unedifying civil disruption following either result, IMO.
The polls are pointless, they keep getting it wrong. It's bizarre how bad they are at their jobs at the moment.
Not that it would or should happen.
Gloria Slap said:
Look, I know we voted to trade in the Porsche for a Ferrari, but I don’t want to talk about the Trabant that we are now being offered.
I’m changing the car no matter what, OK! cos we decided and we can never take stock and reflect on decisions cos that is how smart we is.
In a nutshell.I’m changing the car no matter what, OK! cos we decided and we can never take stock and reflect on decisions cos that is how smart we is.
Obviously the best thing to to when you have made a mistake is carry on regardless and to hell with the consequences...
TheFlyingBanana said:
Gloria Slap said:
Look, I know we voted to trade in the Porsche for a Ferrari, but I don’t want to talk about the Trabant that we are now being offered.
I’m changing the car no matter what, OK! cos we decided and we can never take stock and reflect on decisions cos that is how smart we is.
In a nutshell.I’m changing the car no matter what, OK! cos we decided and we can never take stock and reflect on decisions cos that is how smart we is.
Obviously the best thing to to when you have made a mistake is carry on regardless and to hell with the consequences...
Gloria Slap said:
Look, I know we voted to trade in the Porsche for a Ferrari, but I don’t want to talk about the Trabant that we are now being offered.
I’m changing the car no matter what, OK! cos we decided and we can never take stock and reflect on decisions cos that is how smart we is.
Firstly, your projecting is getting very tiresome. As a debating tactic, it's weak and the repetition makes it weaker.I’m changing the car no matter what, OK! cos we decided and we can never take stock and reflect on decisions cos that is how smart we is.
Secondly, what is this 'we' - you didn't vote did you?
Thirdly, you really ought to spend more time in this country. It's not quite the place you think it is.
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