Chris Frome potentially in serious trouble
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There has always been significantly more concern about Froome than for example Wiggins. Sky have of course backtracked massively from their original statements of intent to prove innocence and operate pretty much the same as everyone else.
I'm not too shocked. May pop over to a certain cycling forum that'll be dancing today...
I'm not too shocked. May pop over to a certain cycling forum that'll be dancing today...
Many elite atheletes suffer from asthma symptoms, apparently
high intensity exercise can induce them.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-42264758
gooner1 said:
Many elite atheletes suffer from asthma symptoms, apparently
high intensity exercise can induce them.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-42264758
However, at the moment it would appear that 'can' (and as per your link, it's a 30% chance) should be replaced with 'guaranteed to induce asthma' which I don't believe is medically likely.
The difficulty is of course that they all use their own doctors, paid by the team. That to me presents a conflict of interest.
Sway said:
The level of training these guys and girls do can indeed induce asthma.
However, at the moment it would appear that 'can' (and as per your link, it's a 30% chance) should be replaced with 'guaranteed to induce asthma' which I don't believe is medically likely.
The difficulty is of course that they all use their own doctors, paid by the team. That to me presents a conflict of interest.
However, at the moment it would appear that 'can' (and as per your link, it's a 30% chance) should be replaced with 'guaranteed to induce asthma' which I don't believe is medically likely.
The difficulty is of course that they all use their own doctors, paid by the team. That to me presents a conflict of interest.
I'm neither defending or accusing Froome of anything, just for clarity.
Point taken re Team doctors but that should be addressed by the teams themselves, or the
Governing authorities.
What a surprise. Road cyclist in failed drugs test shocker. Regardless of what the drug was, he is a professional, full time cyclist with a massive back-up team of fitness and medical professionals behind him. I don't for one moment believe that his team didn't know he would fail a test and thought they could use his profile to get him off.
Competition cyclists will invariably fail drugs tests, yet people make up excuses, find weasel words to let them off.
It took ages for people to condemn Armstrong. The furore around Wiggins (who I am still convinced will spend time banned for doping), now Froome, all the others. Just look at the cases from 2012 alone.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_doping_cases...
Filthy sport, bent to the core.
Why do all these people who would otherwise class themselves as "decent" - or even worse, think that they are superior to everyone else (see cries of "fatty!" on the cycling vs driving threads) - worship at the alter of drugs cheats?
Competition cyclists will invariably fail drugs tests, yet people make up excuses, find weasel words to let them off.
It took ages for people to condemn Armstrong. The furore around Wiggins (who I am still convinced will spend time banned for doping), now Froome, all the others. Just look at the cases from 2012 alone.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_doping_cases...
Filthy sport, bent to the core.
Why do all these people who would otherwise class themselves as "decent" - or even worse, think that they are superior to everyone else (see cries of "fatty!" on the cycling vs driving threads) - worship at the alter of drugs cheats?
OpulentBob said:
What a surprise. Road cyclist in failed drugs test shocker. Regardless of what the drug was, he is a professional, full time cyclist with a massive back-up team of fitness and medical professionals behind him. I don't for one moment believe that his team didn't know he would fail a test and thought they could use his profile to get him off.
Competition cyclists will invariably fail drugs tests, yet people make up excuses, find weasel words to let them off.
It took ages for people to condemn Armstrong. The furore around Wiggins (who I am still convinced will spend time banned for doping), now Froome, all the others. Just look at the cases from 2012 alone.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_doping_cases...
Filthy sport, bent to the core.
Why do all these people who would otherwise class themselves as "decent" - or even worse, think that they are superior to everyone else (see cries of "fatty!" on the cycling vs driving threads) - worship at the alter of drugs cheats?
Not a fan of cycling then Competition cyclists will invariably fail drugs tests, yet people make up excuses, find weasel words to let them off.
It took ages for people to condemn Armstrong. The furore around Wiggins (who I am still convinced will spend time banned for doping), now Froome, all the others. Just look at the cases from 2012 alone.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_doping_cases...
Filthy sport, bent to the core.
Why do all these people who would otherwise class themselves as "decent" - or even worse, think that they are superior to everyone else (see cries of "fatty!" on the cycling vs driving threads) - worship at the alter of drugs cheats?
Pupp said:
My first memory of the local cycling club changing room when I started roadracing was that every rider seemed to have a Ventolin inhaler... asthma is rife in cycling for some reason 
Which is strange, because nothing in an inhaler is going to give any one of them a competitive advantage (of any sort).
Pupp said:
My first memory of the local cycling club changing room when I started roadracing was that every rider seemed to have a Ventolin inhaler... asthma is rife in cycling for some reason
I don’t have asthma. I’ve had physiological testing with a coach, who spotted that at high intensities my exhale is slower than it ought to be. He said that if I was aiming for a career as a cyclist I could probably get asthma medication on prescription based on that result. I’m not, so I didn’t.
In one race in particular the year before last though I had trouble breathing on my bike, and when I started running I could hardly breathe - I was having to stop every 400m or so and pulled out of the race after a couple of km running.
I don’t know whether that was exercise-induced asthma, because I don’t really know what asthma feels like. There had been wildfires in the area not long beforehand, but no one else in the race seemed to be suffering like I was. The whole feeling was f
king unpleasant - initially like breathing with a furry animal stuffed down my windpipe and in the end like being held underwater but on dry land. My take home from this: It’s entirely possible that someone who takes their amateur sport seriously could justify an inhaler medically based on some peripheral testing result but hardly ever be able to justify it based on performances in races. I don’t know what the answer to that is though. Ban inhalers completely in sports? Not sure that’s such a good idea.
Edited by anonymous-user on Wednesday 13th December 23:13
From the UCI:
http://www.uci.ch/pressreleases/uci-statement-chri...
Interesting the * bit at the bottom
The presence in urine of salbutamol in excess of 1000 ng/mL or formoterol in excess of 40 ng/mL is presumed not to be an intended therapeutic use of the substance and will be considered as an Adverse Analytical Finding (AAF) unless the Athlete proves, through a controlled pharmacokinetic study, that the abnormal result was the consequence of the use of the therapeutic dose (by inhalation) up to the maximum dose indicated above.”
Looks like a controlled study to follow then...
http://www.uci.ch/pressreleases/uci-statement-chri...
Interesting the * bit at the bottom
The presence in urine of salbutamol in excess of 1000 ng/mL or formoterol in excess of 40 ng/mL is presumed not to be an intended therapeutic use of the substance and will be considered as an Adverse Analytical Finding (AAF) unless the Athlete proves, through a controlled pharmacokinetic study, that the abnormal result was the consequence of the use of the therapeutic dose (by inhalation) up to the maximum dose indicated above.”
Looks like a controlled study to follow then...
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