Discussion
BlackLabel said:
When I read your earlier post, I thought if this is factual, he's toast. But facts eh! 
Reading his rebuttal, a different picture altogether.
Nailed it on the arch-hypocrite Toynbee.
But reading that well reasoned piece doesn't sit quite right with those Twitter posts. Idiotic alter ego perhaps. Nothing new there then, PH is seemingly full of them.
Smiler. said:
BlackLabel said:
When I read your earlier post, I thought if this is factual, he's toast. But facts eh! Reading his rebuttal, a different picture altogether.
Nailed it on the arch-hypocrite Toynbee.
But reading that well reasoned piece doesn't sit quite right with those Twitter posts. Idiotic alter ego perhaps. Nothing new there then, PH is seemingly full of them.
JagLover said:
wst said:
Ah Yipper, it was all making sense until your markov chain generator went a bit Joe McCarthy. Why would the left be able to replace anyone from their position as... the Opposition? It's an open goal for the Tories to place whoever they want in whatever Cabinet post they want - some of them might even be able to cope with being disliked while in that role.
Well it is actually a minor post in a minor quango, but still we saw the hysteria that resulted. Including the Private Eye article above, which appears, based on Toby Young's response to be a gross misrepresentation of his actual views on the subject and indeed past actions.Unless the government is willing to ignore the MSM, then on many areas it will be in office but not in power.
I’m sure I could find a Mail link to infuriate the easily offended but you will have to make do with this http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/10625650/...
Edited by richie99 on Friday 12th January 10:07
richie99 said:
The left controls the quangos. It’s part of their revolutionary strategy. The Government is happy to live with it.
The reality:https://publicappointmentscommissioner.independent...
richie99 said:
I have no idea why. Not really being Conservative might be part of it.
Bit wishy-washy commie pinko liberal for your liking, are they?TooMany2cvs said:
richie99 said:
The left controls the quangos. It’s part of their revolutionary strategy. The Government is happy to live with it.
The reality:https://publicappointmentscommissioner.independent...
TooMany2cvs said:
Bit wishy-washy commie pinko liberal for your liking, are they?
What’s with the sneering lefty language? I could plough through the political background of various quango queens and kings to test your point but CBA. You won’t care anyway. The current ‘Conservative’ adiministration is not. The coalition wasn’t but you might expect that. May lost her majority by trying to offer Corbyn-lite and it didn’t work.
Edited by richie99 on Friday 12th January 12:19
richie99 said:
TooMany2cvs said:
Bit wishy-washy commie pinko liberal for your liking, are they?
What’s with the sneering lefty language? I could plough through the political background of various quango queens and kings to test your point but CBA. You won’t care anyway. The current ‘Conservative’ adiministration is not. The coalition wasn’t but you might expect that. May lost her majority by trying to offer Corbyn-lite and it didn’t work.
Edited by richie99 on Friday 12th January 12:19
turbobloke said:
TooMany2cvs said:
richie99 said:
The left controls the quangos. It’s part of their revolutionary strategy. The Government is happy to live with it.
The reality:https://publicappointmentscommissioner.independent...
This will have heavily politicised the next layer down, and built a huge & permanent opposition for whenever Labour is not in power.
wsurfa said:
turbobloke said:
TooMany2cvs said:
richie99 said:
The left controls the quangos. It’s part of their revolutionary strategy. The Government is happy to live with it.
The reality:https://publicappointmentscommissioner.independent...
This will have heavily politicised the next layer down, and built a huge & permanent opposition for whenever Labour is not in power.
It is why Toby Young was hounded out. He does not have a weird straw beard or eat lentils.
The Tories really need to start showing some backbone and stand up to the communist hate mob. The two-faced reds who are happy for Labour politicians to talk about murdering people, but unhappy for Tory folk to mention boobs in a tweet.
Yipper said:
Yes, in day to day life, Britain is now a quango state run by leftwing maniacs.
It is why Toby Young was hounded out. He does not have a weird straw beard or eat lentils.
The Tories really need to start showing some backbone and stand up to the communist hate mob. The two-faced reds who are happy for Labour politicians to talk about murdering people, but unhappy for Tory folk to mention boobs in a tweet.
Just because labour is happy to keep people who have said worse, does not mean that Toby Young could have continued in role given the content of his 'snigger boobs' tweets.It is why Toby Young was hounded out. He does not have a weird straw beard or eat lentils.
The Tories really need to start showing some backbone and stand up to the communist hate mob. The two-faced reds who are happy for Labour politicians to talk about murdering people, but unhappy for Tory folk to mention boobs in a tweet.
The subsequent 'he's a nazi eugenicist paedo' stuff is, however, ridiculous .
I used to be a Tory party activist, many years ago (back in the Heath era, when I lived in Scotland). I have precious little confidence in May, but (finally) sacking Toby Young was one of the best things she did. Just got to get rid of that waste of space Boris now. I like Boris as a personality, he's witty and well-read, but he's been a useless Foreign Sec and is hardly doing much to push forward the Brexit agenda he advocated so passionately 2 years ago...
Personally I thought Toby Young would have been quite a good appointment for the role that was chosen for him - 1 of 15 on a quango aimed at getting value for money for University students and ensuring freedom of speech, and his background in education is a lot more comprehensive than most of the people throwing faeces at him. Only negative was the slightly juicy tweets he sent out, but bearing in mind most of them were in 2009, which seems a completely different world to where we are now. If you think of the popular comedians at the time - Ricky Gervais, Frankie, Jimmy Carr etc, and their particular style of humour, none of what he tweeted seems to bad at all to be honest, as they were clearly jokes.
What I found scariest however, was the instant trawling of social media history to dig up dirt on him - horrible shades of East Germany, combined with a pitchfork wielding mob, makes for a properly scary development imo.
What I found scariest however, was the instant trawling of social media history to dig up dirt on him - horrible shades of East Germany, combined with a pitchfork wielding mob, makes for a properly scary development imo.
TooMany2cvs said:
Eddie Strohacker said:
She didn't sack him.
She didn't appoint him, either, but that seems to have been thoroughly ignored.bodhi said:
Personally I thought Toby Young would have been quite a good appointment for the role that was chosen for him - 1 of 15 on a quango aimed at getting value for money for University students and ensuring freedom of speech, and his background in education is a lot more comprehensive than most of the people throwing faeces at him. Only negative was the slightly juicy tweets he sent out, but bearing in mind most of them were in 2009, which seems a completely different world to where we are now. If you think of the popular comedians at the time - Ricky Gervais, Frankie, Jimmy Carr etc, and their particular style of humour, none of what he tweeted seems to bad at all to be honest, as they were clearly jokes.
What I found scariest however, was the instant trawling of social media history to dig up dirt on him - horrible shades of East Germany, combined with a pitchfork wielding mob, makes for a properly scary development imo.
But a threat that most of us will find easy to ignore. Why would people post on social media if they don't want a reaction?What I found scariest however, was the instant trawling of social media history to dig up dirt on him - horrible shades of East Germany, combined with a pitchfork wielding mob, makes for a properly scary development imo.
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