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telecat said:
King Herald said:
Near where I lived in the Philippines there is a place you can get any document you want copied, faked or forged. Offshore tickets, marine licenses, driving licenses, degrees, passports, anything that man has made can be copied, perfectly.
Several guys in my company were found to have fake seaman’s tickets when investigations were made. In fact a good percentage of the myriad seamen and workers who emerge from the Philippines have their career based on fake papers.
And you don’t have to pay anything near as feckin’ stupid as half a million quid!
Causes problems in the NHS where many Nurses qualifications are not worth the paper they are written on. Then of course there is the problem of Indian pilots getting extra hours or type qualifications they are not entitled to either. Now that's a good reason not to fly there.Several guys in my company were found to have fake seaman’s tickets when investigations were made. In fact a good percentage of the myriad seamen and workers who emerge from the Philippines have their career based on fake papers.
And you don’t have to pay anything near as feckin’ stupid as half a million quid!
JuniorD said:
telecat said:
King Herald said:
Near where I lived in the Philippines there is a place you can get any document you want copied, faked or forged. Offshore tickets, marine licenses, driving licenses, degrees, passports, anything that man has made can be copied, perfectly.
Several guys in my company were found to have fake seaman’s tickets when investigations were made. In fact a good percentage of the myriad seamen and workers who emerge from the Philippines have their career based on fake papers.
And you don’t have to pay anything near as feckin’ stupid as half a million quid!
Causes problems in the NHS where many Nurses qualifications are not worth the paper they are written on. Then of course there is the problem of Indian pilots getting extra hours or type qualifications they are not entitled to either. Now that's a good reason not to fly there.Several guys in my company were found to have fake seaman’s tickets when investigations were made. In fact a good percentage of the myriad seamen and workers who emerge from the Philippines have their career based on fake papers.
And you don’t have to pay anything near as feckin’ stupid as half a million quid!
What a PIA for something completely irrelevant to 99% of people (if not stupid recruiters).
Taaaaang said:
I've never had a job, but if I did, I'm not sure I have my GCSE certificates and very much doubt that my school has them 20 years later. I don't even know which exam board I took. Later results were digitised but not as far back as mine.
What a PIA for something completely irrelevant to 99% of people (if not stupid recruiters).
Never had a job? Intriguing, but I won’t ask....What a PIA for something completely irrelevant to 99% of people (if not stupid recruiters).
I’ve worked for forty years, had but four jobs, though nobody has ever asked to see my O levels, not once.
(GCSEs are a modern age thing, O levels are the originals)
kev1974 said:
DJFish said:
Taaaaang said:
I can see why some people would resort to this, especially those caught outside the era of "everyone goes to university" that find it hard to get past the gatekeeper for jobs without a degree.
I'm finding this at the moment, two decades of experience count for nowt if you can't get past the first stage of an online application, especially true with US firms.I never thought I'd say it but recruitment consultants are worth their weight in gold in these instances.
jjlynn27 said:
Lotobear said:
..does this thread also extend to equestrian studies, poetry, drama, forensic science and media studies degrees?
- extends
King Herald said:
Never had a job? Intriguing, but I won’t ask....
I’ve worked for forty years, had but four jobs, though nobody has ever asked to see my O levels, not once.
(GCSEs are a modern age thing, O levels are the originals)
I've never even listed the GCSE's I have on my CV. I only wrote my engineering related qualifications, no one has asked me about them either. I’ve worked for forty years, had but four jobs, though nobody has ever asked to see my O levels, not once.
(GCSEs are a modern age thing, O levels are the originals)
sanguinary said:
One member of staff (straight out of college) left after 3 weeks on the shop floor, when he realised he 'wouldn't be sitting in my chair' as he put it, within a year.
My wife's half brother (17 at the time), was grilling the HR lady at BMW in an intern interview on what the Director's salary was. The little pr*ck got a job too!Edited by prand on Tuesday 16th January 17:29
King Herald said:
Taaaaang said:
I've never had a job, but if I did, I'm not sure I have my GCSE certificates and very much doubt that my school has them 20 years later. I don't even know which exam board I took. Later results were digitised but not as far back as mine.
What a PIA for something completely irrelevant to 99% of people (if not stupid recruiters).
Never had a job? Intriguing, but I won’t ask....What a PIA for something completely irrelevant to 99% of people (if not stupid recruiters).
I’ve worked for forty years, had but four jobs, though nobody has ever asked to see my O levels, not once.
(GCSEs are a modern age thing, O levels are the originals)
The Surveyor said:
kev1974 said:
DJFish said:
Taaaaang said:
I can see why some people would resort to this, especially those caught outside the era of "everyone goes to university" that find it hard to get past the gatekeeper for jobs without a degree.
I'm finding this at the moment, two decades of experience count for nowt if you can't get past the first stage of an online application, especially true with US firms.I never thought I'd say it but recruitment consultants are worth their weight in gold in these instances.
A member of our banking team working on a project (a kiwi) back in 2001, who required quite specific accounting and law skills had a completely fake CV. Claimed to be B.Com.LLB. And chartered Accountant, member UK body! Never even went to University. He was being paid £800 per day which was a tidy sum back then for a zero experienced fool.
The agency never even checked his CV details. He was a master as delegating. All the technical stuff was handed over to others who he bullied into submission. It still staggers me today that he got away with it for 9 months.
Lesson learnt, always call the University where the degree is meant to come from. They are always happy to confirm details.
The agency never even checked his CV details. He was a master as delegating. All the technical stuff was handed over to others who he bullied into submission. It still staggers me today that he got away with it for 9 months.
Lesson learnt, always call the University where the degree is meant to come from. They are always happy to confirm details.
I have a fake degree 
Working for a multinational oil service company, they transferred me to Brunei.
I was already in country when the visa paperwork was being sorted and it turns out that if you are an ex-pat, you need a degree, which I don't have.
My manager sorted one for me.
Quite fancied a Doctorate in Astrophysics or similar but he got me a 2.2 in Sports Science from the University of Lagos.
Barst
Was accepted though.
Working for a multinational oil service company, they transferred me to Brunei.
I was already in country when the visa paperwork was being sorted and it turns out that if you are an ex-pat, you need a degree, which I don't have.
My manager sorted one for me.
Quite fancied a Doctorate in Astrophysics or similar but he got me a 2.2 in Sports Science from the University of Lagos.
Barst
Was accepted though.
SystemParanoia said:
Great site. As I already have 22 doctorates, I can't be arsed to get another one.They do have good comedy potential
Yipper said:
Pretty much 100% of job applicants tell minor or major lies when searching for a job.
That can range from "yes, I have done a sales presentation before" to "yes, I have a degree in management from Jordan Belfort University.
Everyone does it.
Don't judge everybody else by your pitifully low standards Yapper.That can range from "yes, I have done a sales presentation before" to "yes, I have a degree in management from Jordan Belfort University.
Everyone does it.
The Surveyor said:
Yipper said:
Pretty much 100% of job applicants tell minor or major lies when searching for a job.
That can range from "yes, I have done a sales presentation before" to "yes, I have a degree in management from Jordan Belfort University.
Everyone does it.
Don't judge everybody else by your pitifully low standards Yapper.That can range from "yes, I have done a sales presentation before" to "yes, I have a degree in management from Jordan Belfort University.
Everyone does it.
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