Boris Bridge across channel
Discussion
MXRod said:
Just been on news
Boris is proposing a bridge across the English Channel
Seriously ?
The first storm or high winds , a super carrier or tanker out of control ,
And of course who pays , EEU wont after we leave . Non starter , bit of grandstanding by Boris again
Are there are no bridges anywhere in the world that stay up in stormy seas or a bit of wind ?Boris is proposing a bridge across the English Channel
Seriously ?
The first storm or high winds , a super carrier or tanker out of control ,
And of course who pays , EEU wont after we leave . Non starter , bit of grandstanding by Boris again
Should have built a bridge in stead of a tunnel in the first place.
Crack on and get it built.
Also Boris is right about the airport thing too..
king potholes everywhere , building another stretch of road that requires maintaining ,be it on a bridge or elsewhere ,would appear to be a bit stupid.Just had a quick Google so it might not be completely accurate, but the Chinese have built a bridge 30 miles or so long over sea, so it probably could be done.
What would concern me would be the ships, they have a habit of colliding or running aground so having something else for them to run into would not be good! It's a very busy shipping lane
What would concern me would be the ships, they have a habit of colliding or running aground so having something else for them to run into would not be good! It's a very busy shipping lane
Imagine the support network needed. You couldnt just have a bridge taking you and your family out that far with no plan B.
Emergency services would need to be posted half way to be available quickly. Probably road-based and sea-based.
Huge customs and immigration infrastructure at both ends.
Not to mention the already struggling road links in the south east.
Then the tolls / cost to use.
Crazy
Emergency services would need to be posted half way to be available quickly. Probably road-based and sea-based.
Huge customs and immigration infrastructure at both ends.
Not to mention the already struggling road links in the south east.
Then the tolls / cost to use.
Crazy
MXRod said:
Just been on news
The first storm or high winds , a super carrier or tanker out of control ,
And of course who pays , EEU wont after we leave . Non starter , bit of grandstanding by Boris again
I'm guessing you're not a civil engineer... People have been building 20mile+ bridges over busy, stormy shipping lanes for a long time. Don't remember many getting blown over or rammed over by ships!The first storm or high winds , a super carrier or tanker out of control ,
And of course who pays , EEU wont after we leave . Non starter , bit of grandstanding by Boris again
I like the thought of Britain starting large infrastructure projects like this, they can benefit societies for many, many years to come. Any financial outlay would be recouped over X years, and beyond that would provide a great benefit. Imagine the value to be gained from an unbroken road network between Britain & mainland Europe!
Unfortunately public opinion seems to lean towards that of the OP, who fails to see anything beyond the initial cost.
Sad really.
triggerhappy21 said:
MXRod said:
Just been on news
The first storm or high winds , a super carrier or tanker out of control ,
And of course who pays , EEU wont after we leave . Non starter , bit of grandstanding by Boris again
I'm guessing you're not a civil engineer... People have been building 20mile+ bridges over busy, stormy shipping lanes for a long time. Don't remember many getting blown over or rammed over by ships!The first storm or high winds , a super carrier or tanker out of control ,
And of course who pays , EEU wont after we leave . Non starter , bit of grandstanding by Boris again
I like the thought of Britain starting large infrastructure projects like this, they can benefit societies for many, many years to come. Any financial outlay would be recouped over X years, and beyond that would provide a great benefit. Imagine the value to be gained from an unbroken road network between Britain & mainland Europe!
Unfortunately public opinion seems to lean towards that of the OP, who fails to see anything beyond the initial cost.
Sad really.
Nowhere did I say the project would be impossible , perhaps clumsily, impracticable.
The channel is one of the busiest seaways in the world ,so I believe my fears are justified regarding collisions , the cost , well when we can’t even fully support the needs of the population , who is going to bankroll it ,
People are unable to drive a few miles on land based motorways without falling into each other . how do you police driving . to stop tailgating endless lane changing etc ,assuming it would be more than a single lane dual carriageway
And I presume somewhere in the middle will be a crossover , like a railway , to change from driving on one side of the road to the other .
Ghibli said:
I was thinking maybe build the bridge half way from the UK and put a roundabout at the end.
It's called a "pier"...MXRod said:
Nowhere did I say the project would be impossible , perhaps clumsily, impracticable.
The channel is one of the busiest seaways in the world ,so I believe my fears are justified regarding collisions , the cost , well when we can’t even fully support the needs of the population , who is going to bankroll it ,
People are unable to drive a few miles on land based motorways without falling into each other . how do you police driving . to stop tailgating endless lane changing etc ,assuming it would be more than a single lane dual carriageway
And I presume somewhere in the middle will be a crossover , like a railway , to change from driving on one side of the road to the other .
They were interviewing a couple of civil engineering experts on R4 Today earlier. The consensus was "eminently possible, stretch of tunnel to allow shipping, lots of small 800m-1km spans, massively expensive, not going to happen in the next few decades".The channel is one of the busiest seaways in the world ,so I believe my fears are justified regarding collisions , the cost , well when we can’t even fully support the needs of the population , who is going to bankroll it ,
People are unable to drive a few miles on land based motorways without falling into each other . how do you police driving . to stop tailgating endless lane changing etc ,assuming it would be more than a single lane dual carriageway
And I presume somewhere in the middle will be a crossover , like a railway , to change from driving on one side of the road to the other .
The justification, it seems, is along the lines of "some people don't like going through tunnels". Umm, but if some of this is tunnel...?
God knows what the toll'd be. Øresund/Öresund is probably the nearest current equivalent, and that's "only" 8km bridge + 4km tunnel, with a €54 one-way toll...
Edited by TooMany2cvs on Friday 19th January 08:53
triggerhappy21 said:
MXRod said:
Just been on news
The first storm or high winds , a super carrier or tanker out of control ,
And of course who pays , EEU wont after we leave . Non starter , bit of grandstanding by Boris again
I'm guessing you're not a civil engineer... People have been building 20mile+ bridges over busy, stormy shipping lanes for a long time. Don't remember many getting blown over or rammed over by ships!The first storm or high winds , a super carrier or tanker out of control ,
And of course who pays , EEU wont after we leave . Non starter , bit of grandstanding by Boris again
I like the thought of Britain starting large infrastructure projects like this, they can benefit societies for many, many years to come. Any financial outlay would be recouped over X years, and beyond that would provide a great benefit. Imagine the value to be gained from an unbroken road network between Britain & mainland Europe!
Unfortunately public opinion seems to lean towards that of the OP, who fails to see anything beyond the initial cost.
Sad really.
It's well within engineering capabilities to make this happen. It was discussed on R4 this morning, with the introduction piece making it smugly clear that Boris was taking a shoeing on Social Media for proposing such a stupid thing - then the two senior engineer bridge experts that they interviewed said that not only was it entirely possible, that it had been done elsewhere, that there are feasible solutions to the sea lane traffic issues (two islands interconnecting tunnel) , and that also it was a highly desirable project.
Will it happen? Probably not in my lifetime. Never if the soshul meeeja experts are to be believed.
Sad
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