Boris Bridge across channel

[bitchstewie]

Too Drunk to Funk said:

Why does anyone even think we need this pointless bridge? How often do the people saying it's a great idea actually travel between Dover and Calais? Another tunnel would be far cheaper than any new bridge. Need I go on.

It isn't as thought there are currently no other ways of getting between England and France.

I didn't say we need it nor did I say we should do it as I don't know if we do or whether we should.

My point is many of the people dismissing it out of hand are doing so either because it's Boris saying it or because it links us to Europe.

If it isn't economically viable fair enough but my god you'd think we'd welcome people with a bit of vision.

[ATG]

The Dangerous Elk said:

ATG said:

that's an oxymoron and obviously not what klootzak meant. Why do you choose to deliberately misunderstand him and then post nonsense? Dishonesty followed by stupidity. Strange!

That additional

Rejected totally.

What, so you are actually incapable of understanding what he meant?

[Too Drunk to Funk]

Too Drunk to Funk said:

bhstewie said:

We're a strange nation aren't we.

We spend half our time moaning that nobody ever suggests anything radical and we never do anything different but when someone does suggest something radical we knock them down as "absurd" and we don't need it because "things are fine the way they are".

Why does anyone even think we need this pointless bridge? How often do the people saying it's a great idea actually travel between Dover and Calais? Another tunnel would be far cheaper than any new bridge. Need I go on.

It isn't as thought there are currently no other ways of getting between England and France.

Experts, Industry and The PM pour cold water on The Boris Bridge.

https://support.theguardian.com/uk?INTCMP=gdnwb_co...

[Harry Biscuit]

[alfie2244]

Harry Biscuit said:

Should never have been built with a drawbridge in the middle

[powerstroke]

Too Drunk to Funk said:

bhstewie said:

We're a strange nation aren't we.

We spend half our time moaning that nobody ever suggests anything radical and we never do anything different but when someone does suggest something radical we knock them down as "absurd" and we don't need it because "things are fine the way they are".

Why does anyone even think we need this pointless bridge? How often do the people saying it's a great idea actually travel between Dover and Calais? Another tunnel would be far cheaper than any new bridge. Need I go on.

It isn't as thought there are currently no other ways of getting between England and France.

Yes but think how simple and fast it would be pay a toll and drive no loading unloading
22 miles drive and your on your way 30 mins ,
Makes more sense than HS2 ...

[anonymous-user]

Looks like renowned Genius Boris screwed up. Again...
Bit of a pattern forming here

[aeropilot]

Gargamel said:

Also Boris is right about the airport thing too..

No he's not, Boris Island is an equally barking idea.


For someone that is supposed to be very intelligent, he seems to align himself with the most barking ideas...........so, either he is very ill-advised, or he's not as intelligent as is made out.

[MartG]

powerstroke said:

Yes but think how simple and fast it would be pay a toll and drive no loading unloading
22 miles drive and your on your way 30 mins ,
Makes more sense than HS2 ...

It would be a bit more complex than a normal, shorter bridge - emergency services would be needed at certain intervals along it for instance.

And don't forget that, due to its location, 90% of the time it would be closed to high sided vehicles due to wind

[Too Drunk to Funk]

aeropilot said:

Gargamel said:

Also Boris is right about the airport thing too..

No he's not, Boris Island is an equally barking idea.


For someone that is supposed to be very intelligent, he seems to align himself with the most barking ideas...........so, either he is very ill-advised, or he's not as intelligent as is made out.

No st.

[aeropilot]

MartG said:

powerstroke said:

Yes but think how simple and fast it would be pay a toll and drive no loading unloading
22 miles drive and your on your way 30 mins ,
Makes more sense than HS2 ...

It would be a bit more complex than a normal, shorter bridge - emergency services would be needed at certain intervals along it for instance.

And don't forget that, due to its location, 90% of the time it would be closed to high sided vehicles due to wind

Which is why the proposal that competed with the Channel Tunnel, back in the early 80's was IIRC, a part bridge/part tunnel. IIRC, the idea was to build two islands either side of the main shipping lanes, which would be tunnel portals, and allow for buildings for maintenance and emergency teams etc., with a short road tunnel under the shipping lanes with a bridge/causeway linking these 'islands' to the mainland on either side.
A bridge all the way across just isn't feasible.

[The Dangerous Elk]

aeropilot said:

A bridge all the way across just isn't feasible.

Other than money , why ?

[don'tbesilly]

aeropilot said:

MartG said:

powerstroke said:

Yes but think how simple and fast it would be pay a toll and drive no loading unloading
22 miles drive and your on your way 30 mins ,
Makes more sense than HS2 ...

It would be a bit more complex than a normal, shorter bridge - emergency services would be needed at certain intervals along it for instance.

And don't forget that, due to its location, 90% of the time it would be closed to high sided vehicles due to wind

Which is why the proposal that competed with the Channel Tunnel, back in the early 80's was IIRC, a part bridge/part tunnel. IIRC, the idea was to build two islands either side of the main shipping lanes, which would be tunnel portals, and allow for buildings for maintenance and emergency teams etc., with a short road tunnel under the shipping lanes with a bridge/causeway linking these 'islands' to the mainland on either side.
A bridge all the way across just isn't feasible.

Eurotunnel seem to think it could be feasible and would want to be involved if it ever came about:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/bori...

[TooMany2cvs]

The Dangerous Elk said:

aeropilot said:

A bridge all the way across just isn't feasible.

Other than money , why ?

https://www.marineinsight.com/marine-navigation/th...
http://www.vtexplorer.com/ship-tracking-strait-of-...
http://www.shipais.co.uk/currentmap.php?refresh=2&...

Remember that the closest European parallel - Oresund - is part-bridge-part-tunnel - with much less marine traffic. OK, it's underground anyway for Copenhagen airport, but...

[TooMany2cvs]

don'tbesilly said:

Eurotunnel seem to think it could be feasible and would want to be involved if it ever came about:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/bori...

"There's a major rival to your business coming. Would you like to be involved?"

[The Dangerous Elk]

TooMany2cvs said:

https://www.marineinsight.com/marine-navigation/th...
http://www.vtexplorer.com/ship-tracking-strait-of-...
http://www.shipais.co.uk/currentmap.php?refresh=2&...

Remember that the closest European parallel - Oresund - is part-bridge-part-tunnel - with much less marine traffic. OK, it's underground anyway for Copenhagen airport, but...

Borris has put forward detailed plans for it has he ?

This anti-Bridge (of some sort)- because-Borris stuff makes people look ridiculous, but hey, that is the Twitter generation for you !

[TooMany2cvs]

The Dangerous Elk said:

Borris has put forward detailed plans for it has he ?

Look at a map.
Tell me where it's going to go if NOT the straits of Dover.

[gavsdavs]

Gargamel said:

I love the short sighted narrow minded comments on here.

I imagine MKB & IKB faced the same problems of imagination in the general public when the proposed and built the first Thames Tunnel (Why bother there is already a bridge)

A road bridge to France would be awesome, particularly if it had a spur to a brand new airport. Don't focus on how much it would cost, it would bring jobs, investment and long lasting economic benefit.

Plus you could close Heathrow and significantly improve the housing problems in London.

Cross Rail is happening, The Channel Tunnel has been a great success, as was the Hindhead Tunnel, Dartford, QE2 Bridge etc etc

We have all the capability and technical skils - what we have is a criminal lack of vision

Boris for PM

https://www.economist.com/news/britain/21726360-expensive-project-becomes-expensive-mistake-how-london-threw-46m-thames

Consider the last 'bridge' that Boris backed cost the tax payer 46m without a brick being laid and it only had to span a couple of hundred yards, I think you've taken leave of your senses.

The only bridge that Boris is going to be building is metaphorical, and it's clearly a distraction for this: http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2018/01/19/macron-rebuff...

Look, even Farage thinks it's a dumb idea ! https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/...

[anonymous-user]

Surely possible

Doubt it is the best solution to providing additional capacity (first guess is that part tunnel likely better, but by no means can I back that up)

Not sure extra capacity needed in the foreseeable

Wouldn’t be against it. Wouldn’t want it funded by general taxation.

[The Dangerous Elk]

gavsdavs said:

The only bridge that Boris is going to be building is metaphorical, and it's clearly a distraction for this: http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2018/01/19/macron-rebuff...

Because in his fantasy he thinks Paris can take over from London, which is equally likely as square tumbleweed working out as a plan for Mother Nature.