That's why Mum's gone to Iceland

That's why Mum's gone to Iceland

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Harry Biscuit

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11,752 posts

230 months

Sunday 21st January 2018
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'Deep freeze' funerals set to come to the UK

Telegraph said:
Using a process called cryomation, which is an ecologically friendly alternative to burial or cremation, dead bodies are frozen to -200C and pulverised into powder.
Sounds great.

The Co-op is bracing itself for some stiff competition.

Butter Face

30,298 posts

160 months

Sunday 21st January 2018
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Sounds ace, sign me up.

Also this...

‘However the concept has been met with criticism by religious figures who have described it as "grotesque". Anthony Kilmister, president of the Church of England’s Anglican Association, told the Daily Mail: ‘This sounds a grotesque way to treat the dead. I hope these proposals don’t become regular practice. They are very undignified."

Cracks me up rofl

Because the alternatives, burning a body to a crisp in a massive oven or putting it underground to decompose slowly over decades are so much less ‘grotesque’. Riiggghhhttttt rofl

bazza white

3,558 posts

128 months

Sunday 21st January 2018
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What do you do with the powered ice thats left. It wil virtually still be the samr volume and mass as what went in.


You use a vacuum chamber so freeze dry it.

FN2TypeR

7,091 posts

93 months

Sunday 21st January 2018
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bazza white said:
What do you do with the powered ice thats left. It wil virtually still be the samr volume and mass as what went in.


You use a vacuum chamber so freeze dry it.
"I snorted my dead nans ashes" will be a story doing the rounds in the council thread before long, if this is the case.

frisbee

4,979 posts

110 months

Sunday 21st January 2018
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bazza white said:
What do you do with the powered ice thats left. It wil virtually still be the samr volume and mass as what went in.


You use a vacuum chamber so freeze dry it.
Probably goes to the other Iceland!

Wacky Racer

38,154 posts

247 months

Sunday 21st January 2018
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Butter Face said:
Sounds ace, sign me up.

Also this...

‘However the concept has been met with criticism by religious figures who have described it as "grotesque". Anthony Kilmister, president of the Church of England’s Anglican Association, told the Daily Mail: ‘This sounds a grotesque way to treat the dead. I hope these proposals don’t become regular practice. They are very undignified."

Cracks me up rofl

Because the alternatives, burning a body to a crisp in a massive oven or putting it underground to decompose slowly over days are so much less ‘grotesque’. Riiggghhhttttt rofl
EFA

CAPP0

19,581 posts

203 months

Sunday 21st January 2018
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Cremation remains get pulverised anyway, AIUI?

But if you freeze a body and smash it up, then once it's back at room temp, isn't it still tiny bits of body? Which will still rot and stink? I'm sure it's not, but what part of the process am I missing?

kowalski655

14,639 posts

143 months

Sunday 21st January 2018
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Use it before it thaws

Oh how I miss dear granny!

Jockman

17,917 posts

160 months

Sunday 21st January 2018
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CAPP0 said:
Cremation remains get pulverised anyway, AIUI?

But if you freeze a body and smash it up, then once it's back at room temp, isn't it still tiny bits of body? Which will still rot and stink? I'm sure it's not, but what part of the process am I missing?
Yes in cremation any remaining bones will be reduced to ash before cooling and returning to the family in due course.

crankedup

25,764 posts

243 months

Sunday 21st January 2018
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Butter Face said:
Sounds ace, sign me up.

Also this...

‘However the concept has been met with criticism by religious figures who have described it as "grotesque". Anthony Kilmister, president of the Church of England’s Anglican Association, told the Daily Mail: ‘This sounds a grotesque way to treat the dead. I hope these proposals don’t become regular practice. They are very undignified."

Cracks me up rofl

Because the alternatives, burning a body to a crisp in a massive oven or putting it underground to decompose slowly over decades are so much less ‘grotesque’. Riiggghhhttttt rofl
Change comes with opposition, generally people are opposed to change because they are frightened of that change, cremations and burials are the traditional and practical means of body disposal. As such these methods are acceptable throughout the World with. ariosto relegious ceremony.
Personally I agree with the new technique of disposal as it offers an alternative. At the same time it’s not the funeral and disposal for myself.

Jockman

17,917 posts

160 months

Sunday 21st January 2018
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crankedup said:
Personally I agree with the new technique of disposal as it offers an alternative. At the same time it’s not the funeral and disposal for myself.
Any new process needs to add value. You are right to differentiate between the funeral and the disposal.

underwhelmist

1,858 posts

134 months

Sunday 21st January 2018
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Butter Face said:
Anthony Kilmister, president of the Church of England’s Anglican Association
Kilmister you say?



Pesty

42,655 posts

256 months

Sunday 21st January 2018
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MiggyA

193 posts

100 months

Monday 22nd January 2018
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This seems like beating around the bush to me, just use a nice big blender and send the resulting soup to be used in the farming industry if you really want to be efficient.

Butter Face

30,298 posts

160 months

Monday 22nd January 2018
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Wacky Racer said:
EFA
Huh? confused

From the first hit on google.

‘When buried six feet down, without a coffin, in ordinary soil, an unembalmed adult normally takes eight to twelve years to decompose to a skeleton. However if placed in a coffin the body can take many years longer, depending on type of wood used. For example a solid oak coffin will hughly slow down the process. ’

From a guardian article:

‘ If the ground is light, dry soil, decomposition is quicker. Generally speaking, a body takes 10 or 15 years to decompose to a skeleton.’

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2008/feb/...

I can’t see how being left to rot underground in a box is any less grotesque than bending frozen and smashed up.

Butter Face

30,298 posts

160 months

Monday 22nd January 2018
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CAPP0 said:
Cremation remains get pulverised anyway, AIUI?

But if you freeze a body and smash it up, then once it's back at room temp, isn't it still tiny bits of body? Which will still rot and stink? I'm sure it's not, but what part of the process am I missing?
The remains get freeze dried, they don’t sit and rot. They get buried and are gone in 6-12 months.

kowalski655

14,639 posts

143 months

Monday 22nd January 2018
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MiggyA said:
This seems like beating around the bush to me, just use a nice big blender and send the resulting soup to be used in the farming industry if you really want to be efficient.
Or Soylent Green?

mrtwisty

3,057 posts

165 months

Monday 22nd January 2018
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kowalski655 said:
Or Soylent Green?
yum

funkyrobot

18,789 posts

228 months

Monday 22nd January 2018
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If this happened to dogs, wouldn't the remains become a Slush Puppy?


getmecoat

andy43

9,702 posts

254 months

Monday 22nd January 2018
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Jockman said:
CAPP0 said:
Cremation remains get pulverised anyway, AIUI?

But if you freeze a body and smash it up, then once it's back at room temp, isn't it still tiny bits of body? Which will still rot and stink? I'm sure it's not, but what part of the process am I missing?
Yes in cremation any remaining bones will be reduced to ash before cooling and returning to the family in due course.
We've recently scattered my late father's ashes.
It gets everywhere if there's even a slight breeze. Hair, coat, shoes... we didn't take the dog. Certainly makes your eyes sting. Dad would have been laughing his head off.
Wouldn't fancy scattering defrosted mince. With the greatest respect for those dearly departed etc.