Man kept £25k watch delivered to him in error.

Man kept £25k watch delivered to him in error.

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Hoofy

76,352 posts

282 months

Monday 22nd January 2018
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FourWheelDrift said:
"Michael Bold, 47, of Llys y Wern, Sychdyn, Mold"


Mr Bold from Mold.
Got told.

eharding

13,700 posts

284 months

Monday 22nd January 2018
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Davidos said:
Ticker masala?
SAAG Heuer?

Patak Philippe?

Mutter Paneerai?

gooner1

10,223 posts

179 months

Monday 22nd January 2018
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Think I saw this on Crime Watch.

leef44

4,388 posts

153 months

Monday 22nd January 2018
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Hoofy said:
FourWheelDrift said:
"Michael Bold, 47, of Llys y Wern, Sychdyn, Mold"


Mr Bold from Mold.
Got told.
That's just gold

wazztie16

1,471 posts

131 months

Monday 22nd January 2018
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ElectricSoup said:
This happened to me with a delivery curry. I accepted delivery as I had ordered one myself that same evening, so was expecting one anyway. On opening the bag I realised it was the wrong food from a different restaurant, so I rang them up and they said it was intended for a house with the same number in another street. Told me to keep it, my proper curry arrived immediately after, and I was most satisfied with spicy wonders that night. The other poor sods must have been starving as they had to wait twice the time for the replacement to arrive.

Of course, I'd rather it had been a 25k watch, but thems the breaks.
Once ordered Bogof pizzas, turned up to collect and they'd not long given mine to a different customer who'd gone.

So said keep the ones we've made that aren't yours, and we'll do you 2 fresh ones.

4 large pizzas for about £10

Mothersruin

8,573 posts

99 months

Monday 22nd January 2018
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Davidos said:
ElectricSoup said:
This happened to me with a delivery curry. I accepted delivery as I had ordered one myself that same evening, so was expecting one anyway. On opening the bag I realised it was the wrong food from a different restaurant, so I rang them up and they said it was intended for a house with the same number in another street. Told me to keep it, my proper curry arrived immediately after, and I was most satisfied with spicy wonders that night. The other poor sods must have been starving as they had to wait twice the time for the replacement to arrive.

Of course, I'd rather it had been a 25k watch, but thems the breaks.
Ticker masala?
I bet he had a decent movement the next morning.

BobToc

1,772 posts

117 months

Monday 22nd January 2018
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leef44 said:
That's just gold
So he decided to hold.

MOBB

3,609 posts

127 months

Monday 22nd January 2018
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FourWheelDrift said:
"Michael Bold, 47, of Llys y Wern, Sychdyn, Mold"


Mr Bold from Mold.
The watch is rose gold - we are nearly at poem territory. Or maybe a limerick?

The Surveyor

7,576 posts

237 months

Monday 22nd January 2018
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Moonhawk said:
The Surveyor said:
Who has he stolen the watch off?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theft

“A person is guilty of theft, if he dishonestly appropriates property belonging to another with the intention of permanently depriving the other of it”

“Any assumption by a person of the rights of an owner amounts to an appropriation, and this includes, where he has come by the property (innocently or not) without stealing it, any later assumption of a right to it by keeping or dealing with it as owner.”
Thanks for that.

Kills off any misconceptions about 'finders keepers' or 'possession being 9/10th of the law'.

Could this guy have avoided a charge of 'theft' if instead of trying to claim it was his, he simply confirmed it had been delivered in error and he was waiting for supplier / courier to contact him to ask for it back. Similar to anything you find and hand into the police is often given back to the finder if not claimed?

bigandclever

13,787 posts

238 months

Monday 22nd January 2018
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You never actually own a Patek Philippe.

You merely hide it under your car seat in case the feds come round.

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 22nd January 2018
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bigandclever said:
You never actually own a Patek Philippe.

You merely hide it under your car seat in case the feds come round.
It's not quite as catchy as their normal marketing slogan smile

dandarez

13,282 posts

283 months

Monday 22nd January 2018
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TooMany2cvs said:
That's some grade A courier incompetence...
Couriers (in my experience) rarely deliver to wrong addresses - in fact, if you read the story it states the package had a wrong delivery address label on it, so it was delivered to the address as stated on the package.

mr_fibuli

1,109 posts

195 months

Monday 22nd January 2018
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MOBB said:
The watch is rose gold - we are nearly at poem territory. Or maybe a limerick?
The once was a man from Mold,
Who received a nice parcel of gold,
3 months (suspended) in jail,
For the watch he got in the mail,
Because it was wrongly addressed to Mr Bold.


Halmyre

11,193 posts

139 months

Monday 22nd January 2018
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TooMany2cvs said:
The Surveyor said:
Who has he stolen the watch off?

The courier has given him the watch which he's received and kept. The watch wasn't owned by the Courier, it was in transit but under their control and they have delivered it to the address given by the supplier.

Yes, he should have let the courier / supplier know he had received the watch in error, but it sounds a very harsh sentence for simply keeping something he was given.
...which he kept, hidden, knowing the value and that it was an error.

Strangely enough, it's something that the law thought of 50 years ago...

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1968/60
The law said:
1 - Basic definition of theft.

(1) A person is guilty of theft if he dishonestly appropriates property belonging to another with the intention of permanently depriving the other of it; and “thief” and “steal” shall be construed accordingly.
...
3 - “Appropriates”

(1) Any assumption by a person of the rights of an owner amounts to an appropriation, and this includes, where he has come by the property (innocently or not) without stealing it, any later assumption of a right to it by keeping or dealing with it as owner.
From that page:

"Where a person gets property by another’s mistake, and is under an obligation to make restoration (in whole or in part) of the property or its proceeds or of the value thereof, then to the extent of that obligation the property or proceeds shall be regarded (as against him) as belonging to the person entitled to restoration, and an intention not to make restoration shall be regarded accordingly as an intention to deprive that person of the property or proceeds."

I don't speak Legalese, but I'm taking from it that "an intention not to make restoration", i.e. keeping schtum, is tantamount to stealing it.

I've heard that if something is delivered to you in error, your only obligation is to inform the sender. You are under no obligation to take an active part in its return, other than handing it over to whoever turns up to collect it.


MOBB

3,609 posts

127 months

Monday 22nd January 2018
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mr_fibuli said:
MOBB said:
The watch is rose gold - we are nearly at poem territory. Or maybe a limerick?
The once was a man from Mold,
Who received a nice parcel of gold,
3 months (suspended) in jail,
For the watch he got in the mail,
Because it was wrongly addressed to Mr Bold.
Excellent work 9.5/10

AndyS2

869 posts

258 months

Monday 22nd January 2018
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TooMany2cvs said:
That's some grade A courier incompetence...
Almost as good as last week when we were expecting a crate of railway components from Germany, actually received a pair of aircraft wings from the USA that should have been in Ireland! You couldn't make it up!!

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 22nd January 2018
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A simple spelling mistake, the £25k PP that should have been addressed to Michael Gould, not Michael Bold.




gooner1

10,223 posts

179 months

Monday 22nd January 2018
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MOBB said:
FourWheelDrift said:
"Michael Bold, 47, of Llys y Wern, Sychdyn, Mold"


Mr Bold from Mold.
The watch is rose gold - we are nearly at poem territory. Or maybe a limerick?
Limerick, is that near Dubin, where the watch was originally sent from?

Boosted LS1

21,187 posts

260 months

Monday 22nd January 2018
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If he hadn't signed for it he may have got lucky. My guess is they were able to read his signature.

Ayahuasca

27,427 posts

279 months

Monday 22nd January 2018
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FourWheelDrift said:
"Michael Bold, 47, of Llys y Wern, Sychdyn, Mold"
If that is his address he has fk all chance of getting anything in the post that was sent on purpose.