Man kept £25k watch delivered to him in error.
Discussion
ElectricSoup said:
This happened to me with a delivery curry. I accepted delivery as I had ordered one myself that same evening, so was expecting one anyway. On opening the bag I realised it was the wrong food from a different restaurant, so I rang them up and they said it was intended for a house with the same number in another street. Told me to keep it, my proper curry arrived immediately after, and I was most satisfied with spicy wonders that night. The other poor sods must have been starving as they had to wait twice the time for the replacement to arrive.
Of course, I'd rather it had been a 25k watch, but thems the breaks.
Once ordered Bogof pizzas, turned up to collect and they'd not long given mine to a different customer who'd gone. Of course, I'd rather it had been a 25k watch, but thems the breaks.
So said keep the ones we've made that aren't yours, and we'll do you 2 fresh ones.
4 large pizzas for about £10
Davidos said:
ElectricSoup said:
This happened to me with a delivery curry. I accepted delivery as I had ordered one myself that same evening, so was expecting one anyway. On opening the bag I realised it was the wrong food from a different restaurant, so I rang them up and they said it was intended for a house with the same number in another street. Told me to keep it, my proper curry arrived immediately after, and I was most satisfied with spicy wonders that night. The other poor sods must have been starving as they had to wait twice the time for the replacement to arrive.
Of course, I'd rather it had been a 25k watch, but thems the breaks.
Ticker masala?Of course, I'd rather it had been a 25k watch, but thems the breaks.
Moonhawk said:
The Surveyor said:
Who has he stolen the watch off?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theft“A person is guilty of theft, if he dishonestly appropriates property belonging to another with the intention of permanently depriving the other of it”
“Any assumption by a person of the rights of an owner amounts to an appropriation, and this includes, where he has come by the property (innocently or not) without stealing it, any later assumption of a right to it by keeping or dealing with it as owner.”
Kills off any misconceptions about 'finders keepers' or 'possession being 9/10th of the law'.
Could this guy have avoided a charge of 'theft' if instead of trying to claim it was his, he simply confirmed it had been delivered in error and he was waiting for supplier / courier to contact him to ask for it back. Similar to anything you find and hand into the police is often given back to the finder if not claimed?
TooMany2cvs said:
The Surveyor said:
Who has he stolen the watch off?
The courier has given him the watch which he's received and kept. The watch wasn't owned by the Courier, it was in transit but under their control and they have delivered it to the address given by the supplier.
Yes, he should have let the courier / supplier know he had received the watch in error, but it sounds a very harsh sentence for simply keeping something he was given.
...which he kept, hidden, knowing the value and that it was an error.The courier has given him the watch which he's received and kept. The watch wasn't owned by the Courier, it was in transit but under their control and they have delivered it to the address given by the supplier.
Yes, he should have let the courier / supplier know he had received the watch in error, but it sounds a very harsh sentence for simply keeping something he was given.
Strangely enough, it's something that the law thought of 50 years ago...
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1968/60
The law said:
1 - Basic definition of theft.
(1) A person is guilty of theft if he dishonestly appropriates property belonging to another with the intention of permanently depriving the other of it; and “thief” and “steal” shall be construed accordingly.
...
3 - “Appropriates”
(1) Any assumption by a person of the rights of an owner amounts to an appropriation, and this includes, where he has come by the property (innocently or not) without stealing it, any later assumption of a right to it by keeping or dealing with it as owner.
(1) A person is guilty of theft if he dishonestly appropriates property belonging to another with the intention of permanently depriving the other of it; and “thief” and “steal” shall be construed accordingly.
...
3 - “Appropriates”
(1) Any assumption by a person of the rights of an owner amounts to an appropriation, and this includes, where he has come by the property (innocently or not) without stealing it, any later assumption of a right to it by keeping or dealing with it as owner.
"Where a person gets property by another’s mistake, and is under an obligation to make restoration (in whole or in part) of the property or its proceeds or of the value thereof, then to the extent of that obligation the property or proceeds shall be regarded (as against him) as belonging to the person entitled to restoration, and an intention not to make restoration shall be regarded accordingly as an intention to deprive that person of the property or proceeds."
I don't speak Legalese, but I'm taking from it that "an intention not to make restoration", i.e. keeping schtum, is tantamount to stealing it.
I've heard that if something is delivered to you in error, your only obligation is to inform the sender. You are under no obligation to take an active part in its return, other than handing it over to whoever turns up to collect it.
mr_fibuli said:
MOBB said:
The watch is rose gold - we are nearly at poem territory. Or maybe a limerick?
The once was a man from Mold,Who received a nice parcel of gold,
3 months (suspended) in jail,
For the watch he got in the mail,
Because it was wrongly addressed to Mr Bold.
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