Elon Musk and his $55 BILLION dollar gamble

Elon Musk and his $55 BILLION dollar gamble

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Agent XXX

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1,248 posts

106 months

Tuesday 23rd January 2018
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Now I appreciate that it's from the BBC therefore some caution should be heeded when believing anything they publish BUT............

He's gambling his pay to the growth of the company from currently $60 billion to $650 Billion.............

As for the bit " Tesla expects to pay him $49,920 in 2016-17, but he says he does not cash the cheques. Instead he lives off loans made against the value of his shares. " Yeah, I'm sure he's really hard up at the mo............


Supreme self confidence and belief in your product or MASSIVE gamble if it comes off?

Seemingly resting on the success of the Model 3...........

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-42788384

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

126 months

Tuesday 23rd January 2018
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The article said:
The proposal is similar to the structure of his last salary package, which was put in place in 2012.
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Strikingly, Musk's proposed renumeration plan no longer includes vehicle output targets, unlike his previous deal.

If Mr Musk hits only a few of the proposed milestones, he will make billions in the value of his shares.

Agent XXX

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1,248 posts

106 months

Tuesday 23rd January 2018
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TooMany2cvs said:
The article said:
The proposal is similar to the structure of his last salary package, which was put in place in 2012.
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Strikingly, Musk's proposed renumeration plan no longer includes vehicle output targets, unlike his previous deal.

If Mr Musk hits only a few of the proposed milestones, he will make billions in the value of his shares.
Whilst not vehicle output targets specifically he's restructured it on the value of the company...........most of which will come from number of vehicles produced. Clever.

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

126 months

Tuesday 23rd January 2018
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Agent XXX said:
Whilst not vehicle output targets specifically he's restructured it on the value of the company...........most of which will come from number of vehicles produced. Clever.
I'm not sure there's been a huge correlation so far...

ElectricPics

761 posts

81 months

Tuesday 23rd January 2018
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A publicity stunt if there ever was one. If it all goes wrong he still has SpaceX and his fledgeling companies like Hyperloop.

RizzoTheRat

25,162 posts

192 months

Tuesday 23rd January 2018
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Presumably at the moment the company is completely reliant on investor/lender confidence, so this looks like a great way of demonstrating that he's committed to the company's success while not unnecessarily taking money out of the company.

98elise

26,589 posts

161 months

Tuesday 23rd January 2018
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I really don't think he's doing it for the money.

By any measure he as as much money as he needs, and never needs work again.

Cold

15,247 posts

90 months

Tuesday 23rd January 2018
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TooMany2cvs said:
Agent XXX said:
Whilst not vehicle output targets specifically he's restructured it on the value of the company...........most of which will come from number of vehicles produced. Clever.
I'm not sure there's been a huge correlation so far...
Indeed. Hot air seems to have some value over in that part of the world.

oilbethere

908 posts

81 months

Tuesday 23rd January 2018
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98elise said:
I really don't think he's doing it for the money.

By any measure he as as much money as he needs, and never needs work again.
We need more people like him. He's already pushed the boundary on space travel.

Vaud

50,482 posts

155 months

Tuesday 23rd January 2018
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oilbethere said:
We need more people like him. He's already pushed the boundary on space travel.
Musk is a genius. Off the spectrum genius, but genius.

oilbethere

908 posts

81 months

Tuesday 23rd January 2018
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Vaud said:
Musk is a genius. Off the spectrum genius, but genius.
They will still be talking about him when we are all dead and buried.

Rich_W

12,548 posts

212 months

Tuesday 23rd January 2018
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Tesla is doomed!

A while ago Mercedes had a tech partnership with Tesla for their electric cars. IIRC supplying the motors themselves.

They apparently no longer have that arrangement. And yet they still have hybrid/electric cars for sale. Elon has forgotten that your competitors will backward engineer your product and make it themselves.


He can put all his chips on "Model 3" But it's already years behind schedule and the major players will be undercutting it and making a better product by then.

In 10 years time Tesla will have gone. IMO

Troubleatmill

10,210 posts

159 months

Tuesday 23rd January 2018
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IIRC - all the money he made from Paypal - he invested in his new companies.

Troubleatmill

10,210 posts

159 months

Tuesday 23rd January 2018
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Rich_W said:
Tesla is doomed!
In 10 years time Tesla will have gone. IMO
Tesla doesn't want to make cars.

They want all car manufacturers to make electric cars.

What better way to make them all jump ship by making your own cars at the outset.

Tesla are a battery company. They want the lions share in making batteries for the world.

Chainsaw Rebuild

2,006 posts

102 months

Tuesday 23rd January 2018
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Is it just me that thinks Musk is wildly over hyped?

Troubleatmill

10,210 posts

159 months

Tuesday 23rd January 2018
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Chainsaw Rebuild said:
Is it just me that thinks Musk is wildly over hyped?
I genuinely cant think of anyone else that launched a rocket into space - and successfully landed it back on a launching pad.

It is a game changer - and I do hope we start thinking about how we get the human race living beyond this planet.

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

254 months

Wednesday 24th January 2018
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Chainsaw Rebuild said:
Is it just me that thinks Musk is wildly over hyped?
Who else is remotely comparable at the moment ? Possibly jeff bezos, can't think of anyone else

Please call back when you've disrupted several industries yourself...

Mothersruin

8,573 posts

99 months

glazbagun

14,279 posts

197 months

Wednesday 24th January 2018
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Troubleatmill said:
Chainsaw Rebuild said:
Is it just me that thinks Musk is wildly over hyped?
I genuinely cant think of anyone else that launched a rocket into space - and successfully landed it back on a launching pad.

It is a game changer - and I do hope we start thinking about how we get the human race living beyond this planet.
Yep. Noone writes about the might-have-beens and Musk was nearly one of them, but Space X and Tesla have now both changed the world.

Fossil fuel interests are still powerful (the US favouring coal and increasing tarrifs on PV panels) and won't go away, but even if the Model 3 fails, he's shown that electric cars can work well and that space can be affordable.



FN2TypeR

7,091 posts

93 months

Wednesday 24th January 2018
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RobDickinson said:
Chainsaw Rebuild said:
Is it just me that thinks Musk is wildly over hyped?
Who else is remotely comparable at the moment ? Possibly jeff bezos, can't think of anyone else

Please call back when you've disrupted several industries yourself...
Is having done such a thing a prerequisite to being allowed to think that somebody else is overhyped?

Who knew?