The economic consequences of Brexit (Vol 3)
Discussion
PurpleMoonlight said:
You are correct I know zilch about your business. But the fact remains that the EU has never prohibited you trading with the RoW so the fact they are willing to do so now is likely to have sweet FA to do with brexit.
I suspect you just weren't willing to put in the extra work previously. risible
Wrong AGAIN: I suspect you just weren't willing to put in the extra work previously. risible
Edited by PurpleMoonlight on Saturday 26th May 09:44
There has been a significant change of attitude amongst our RoW partners/customers/clinical units. The prospects of the Uk being outside of the protectionist Eu has opened many doors expanding our plans with significant long-term opportunities for development/trade partnerships. We are acting quickly to maximise these.
Do try to ask questions rather than make statements (or poorly hidden attempts at insults) about things you know feck all about, you may learn.
Time to light the BBQ and crack a Cider
Edited by The Dangerous Elk on Saturday 26th May 15:58
Gloria Slap said:
What is your specific role at this company Elk?
Didn't you read his post Slapper? He's out in the garden, like me, before the heavens open later (according to the experts, Met Office. They're like the EU, get every forecast cocked up!).
You really should get out and get some sun Slasher (sorry, I said Slapper, easy mistake now!).
Said it before. Your life is passing you by. Rapidly. Wake up before it's too late!
I'm oot(side) now to grab some D.
Bet you're petrified of the sun aren't you, like you're petrified of Brexit? Sad.
Must add:
Just read that you won't confront a 'known' to you racist - a close friend of the family - that is really odd. Even I could not let that pass. You know what, Slasher, by not confronting her, YOU are part of the problem YOU never stop harping on about. I would really think about it if I was you. Find a quiet corner (oh, you're already in one!) and THINK!
PurpleMoonlight said:
Murph7355 said:
You are correct.
However
1) There is nothing to prevent us crafting FTAs with all non-EU countries who make washing machines and then slapping a big old tariff on them as part of our WTO rates
2) I also suspect our WTO schedule could be crafted to achieve not dissimilar results. I appreciate oranges are quite different to washing machines (anyone who has tried to wash clothes in an orange will be able to confirm), but WTO schedules can be quite complex and don't necessarily level playing fields. Look at the EU's orange tariffs.
I fear you give the Government too much credit.However
1) There is nothing to prevent us crafting FTAs with all non-EU countries who make washing machines and then slapping a big old tariff on them as part of our WTO rates
2) I also suspect our WTO schedule could be crafted to achieve not dissimilar results. I appreciate oranges are quite different to washing machines (anyone who has tried to wash clothes in an orange will be able to confirm), but WTO schedules can be quite complex and don't necessarily level playing fields. Look at the EU's orange tariffs.
But then if the current government compromise our position by leaving us effectively in the control of the EU, I won't vote for them next time.
If they do put us back in the driving seat ref our own arrangements, but fail to capitalise on it, I won't vote for them next time.
Edited by Murph7355 on Saturday 26th May 19:59
The Dangerous Elk said:
Do try to ask questions rather than make statements (or poorly hidden attempts at insults) about things you know feck all about, you may learn.
Time to light the BBQ and crack a Cider
a) What role do you have in your company?Time to light the BBQ and crack a Cider
Edited by The Dangerous Elk on Saturday 26th May 15:58
b) What time is the BBQ?
c) What business reasons are your ROW partnerships coming to you? (other than UK is not in the protectionist EU which is not a sound business reason?)
d) How much Cidre have you got?
Thanks
Mike
mike9009 said:
They have a LOI from their new ROW trading partners. The LOI states when the punitive tariffs due to the EU not negotiating cease and the UK have negotiated new trade deals the company will get new orders. Based on this new LOI, the company is investing money in upscaling production and in new product development. Obviously, these new products will be compliant with FDA regulations or whatever jurisdiction they are now trading in (which the business hadn't considered before).
Edit for accuracy and more sense!
Well, a bit more sense, anyway. I can't see many businesses upscaling production solely based on a Letter of Intent with a largely indeterminate "when" clause like that. I can believe they have the letter, and I can believe that production is being upscaled, etc, but I can't see you could reasonably base any major business decisions on such a letter.Edit for accuracy and more sense!
Murph7355 said:
Perhaps.
But then if the current government compromise our position by leaving us effectively in control of the EU, I won't vote for them next time.
If they do put us back in the driving seat ref our own arrangements, but fail to capitalise on it, I won't vote for them next time.
One saving grace is that whatever awful agreement we end up with, it'll be easier to extract ourselves from it than from the EU itself. But then if the current government compromise our position by leaving us effectively in control of the EU, I won't vote for them next time.
If they do put us back in the driving seat ref our own arrangements, but fail to capitalise on it, I won't vote for them next time.
silentbrown said:
mike9009 said:
They have a LOI from their new ROW trading partners. The LOI states when the punitive tariffs due to the EU not negotiating cease and the UK have negotiated new trade deals the company will get new orders. Based on this new LOI, the company is investing money in upscaling production and in new product development. Obviously, these new products will be compliant with FDA regulations or whatever jurisdiction they are now trading in (which the business hadn't considered before).
Edit for accuracy and more sense!
Well, a bit more sense, anyway. I can't see many businesses upscaling production solely based on a Letter of Intent with a largely indeterminate "when" clause like that. I can believe they have the letter, and I can believe that production is being upscaled, etc, but I can't see you could reasonably base any major business decisions on such a letter.Edit for accuracy and more sense!
davepoth said:
Murph7355 said:
Perhaps.
But then if the current government compromise our position by leaving us effectively in the control of the EU, I won't vote for them next time.
If they do put us back in the driving seat ref our own arrangements, but fail to capitalise on it, I won't vote for them next time.
One saving grace is that whatever awful agreement we end up with, it'll be easier to extract ourselves from it than from the EU itself. But then if the current government compromise our position by leaving us effectively in the control of the EU, I won't vote for them next time.
If they do put us back in the driving seat ref our own arrangements, but fail to capitalise on it, I won't vote for them next time.
(Just noticed my mistype in my post
).dandarez said:
Didn't you read his post Slapper?
... bilge ...
Must add:
Just read that you won't confront a 'known' to you racist - a close friend of the family - that is really odd. Even I could not let that pass. You know what, Slasher, by not confronting her, YOU are part of the problem YOU never stop harping on about. I would really think about it if I was you. Find a quiet corner (oh, you're already in one!) and THINK!
“Slapper” - your respect for women shines through.... bilge ...
Must add:
Just read that you won't confront a 'known' to you racist - a close friend of the family - that is really odd. Even I could not let that pass. You know what, Slasher, by not confronting her, YOU are part of the problem YOU never stop harping on about. I would really think about it if I was you. Find a quiet corner (oh, you're already in one!) and THINK!
I am quite enjoying this outrage at my recent confession that I don’t tend to challenge casual racism when uttered by frail old ladies I’ve known for decades.
Oh to have the perfect record on challenging racism that some obvious equality and diversity heros like Dandarez can claim.
It doesn’t seem to occur to them that readers may wonder why these same characters have failed to tackle any of the sometimes blatant bigotry on display on PH? Some have been on the same threads......
Funny that.
Perhaps they assume nobody will make that connection - they obviously didn’t!
Gloria Slap said:
“Slapper” - your respect for women shines through.
I am quite enjoying this outrage at my recent confession that I don’t tend to challenge casual racism when uttered by frail old ladies I’ve known for decades.
Oh to have the perfect record on challenging racism that some obvious equality and diversity heros like Dandarez can claim.
It doesn’t seem to occur to them that readers may wonder why these same characters have failed to tackle any of the sometimes blatant bigotry on display on PH? Some have been on the same threads......
Funny that.
Perhaps they assume nobody will make that connection - they obviously didn’t!
Outrage? I am quite enjoying this outrage at my recent confession that I don’t tend to challenge casual racism when uttered by frail old ladies I’ve known for decades.
Oh to have the perfect record on challenging racism that some obvious equality and diversity heros like Dandarez can claim.
It doesn’t seem to occur to them that readers may wonder why these same characters have failed to tackle any of the sometimes blatant bigotry on display on PH? Some have been on the same threads......
Funny that.
Perhaps they assume nobody will make that connection - they obviously didn’t!
I don't think anyone is outraged by your confession, and most definitely not in the least bit suprised.
Gloria Slap said:
I am quite enjoying this outrage at my recent confession that I don’t tend to challenge casual racism when uttered by frail old ladies I’ve known for decades.
Ah she's frail........... now it makes sense........why did you not say that in the 1st place? Puts an entirely different dimension to your confession...........bless you my son.citizensm1th said:
Has anyone got any idea when the german car companies will start putting pressure on so that they don't lose the uk as an export market? . I am sure that i was told on here that they would not allow the EU play hard ball?
That can't happen until we're talking about the trade deal. We are still not talking about the trade deal, unfortunately.davepoth said:
citizensm1th said:
Has anyone got any idea when the german car companies will start putting pressure on so that they don't lose the uk as an export market? . I am sure that i was told on here that they would not allow the EU play hard ball?
That can't happen until we're talking about the trade deal. We are still not talking about the trade deal, unfortunately.
citizensm1th said:
Has anyone got any idea when the german car companies will start putting pressure on so that they don't lose the uk as an export market? . I am sure that i was told on here that they would not allow the EU play hard ball?
Never !!! they have taken project fear at face value and concluded no one in the uk will be able to afford to buy a car post brexit 
davepoth said:
citizensm1th said:
Has anyone got any idea when the german car companies will start putting pressure on so that they don't lose the uk as an export market? . I am sure that i was told on here that they would not allow the EU play hard ball?
That can't happen until we're talking about the trade deal. We are still not talking about the trade deal, unfortunately.CS was mocking.
The cavalry aren’t coming.
The dream is over, reality has arrived!
Gloria Slap said:
davepoth said:
citizensm1th said:
Has anyone got any idea when the german car companies will start putting pressure on so that they don't lose the uk as an export market? . I am sure that i was told on here that they would not allow the EU play hard ball?
That can't happen until we're talking about the trade deal. We are still not talking about the trade deal, unfortunately.CS was mocking.
The cavalry aren’t coming.
The dream is over, reality has arrived!
Sarcasm : a lost British trait!!
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