45th President of the United States, Donald Trump. (Vol 4)

45th President of the United States, Donald Trump. (Vol 4)

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Big Al.

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65,121 posts

219 months

Wednesday 14th February 2018
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Byker28i

31,817 posts

178 months

Wednesday 14th February 2018
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First post biggrin

Edited by Byker28i on Wednesday 14th February 18:33

pinchmeimdreamin

8,422 posts

179 months

Wednesday 14th February 2018
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So has he been Impeached yet biggrin

Does this mean all the Banees are allowed back bounce

Byker28i

31,817 posts

178 months

Wednesday 14th February 2018
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Back to cohens payment, he used clever words, saying he used his personal funds to 'facilitate' payment, he acted as a conduit?
So after denying it, being clever to attack the allegation of the affair, rather than the payment, now admitting the payment, but saying it was to facilitate, the story of where the money came from, or if he was repaid, is still not known. I doubt that will stop the investigation into the campaign funds.

Gameface

15,308 posts

38 months

Wednesday 14th February 2018
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Did Hillary win?

Voldemort

4,449 posts

239 months

Wednesday 14th February 2018
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pinchmeimdreamin said:
So has he been Impeached yet biggrin

Does this mean all the Banees are allowed back bounce
They mostly are.

Oh, you mean under their original names....

pinchmeimdreamin

8,422 posts

179 months

Wednesday 14th February 2018
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Voldemort said:
They mostly are.

Oh, you mean under their original names....
I miss Hawaii 5-0 and sharinghistrousers frown

ferrisbueller

25,573 posts

188 months

Wednesday 14th February 2018
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I did link to one such reference. And I did read the Guardian article which provided some additional detail (including mention of an e-mail sent by someone within the process). The Guardian article itself doesn't read as an unbiased account. Again, I'm back to where facts can be found.

Here's another extract:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8pAZWfuTUk

Here's an LA Times article:
http://articles.latimes.com/1995-11-17/news/mn-411...

"Rep. William F. Clinger Jr. (R-Pa.), who chaired a recent House hearing on the travel office, reacted to the verdict by saying, "What started as a botched takeover for political cronies ends today with a jury rejecting a transparently political prosecution."


A somewhat skewed version;
http://www.thetrumpet.me/tag/billy-dale/

rscott

11,281 posts

152 months

Wednesday 14th February 2018
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What relevance does a dismissal in 1993 have to the behaviour of the current US president?

Or are we supposed to suddenly forgive Trump his many stupid decisions 'because Hillary' ?

Countdown

29,409 posts

157 months

Wednesday 14th February 2018
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Byker28i said:
Back to cohens payment, he used clever words, saying he used his personal funds to 'facilitate' payment, he acted as a conduit?
So after denying it, being clever to attack the allegation of the affair, rather than the payment, now admitting the payment, but saying it was to facilitate, the story of where the money came from, or if he was repaid, is still not known. I doubt that will stop the investigation into the campaign funds.
Ok, for the sake of argument let's assume that the lawyer paid Stormyzy for rumpy pumpy with Trumpy and then asking her to keep quiet about it.

Is any of that illegal? And will any of his supporters care?

If not then the Dems and the anti-Trumps need to focus on more important things. It's been long accepted by most people that Trump is a sleazebag par excellence. There's no point flogging a dead horse.

Why not focus on the proposed cuts to medicare/medicaid? That's one of his "lies" that could potentially have a real impact on a lot of his voters and it's a cause that a lot of Americans will get behind (unlike DACA). That's where i think the Dems should concentrate.

Tartan Pixie

1,803 posts

108 months

Wednesday 14th February 2018
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ferrisbueller said:
Can someone please remind me why we're being linked to an article from 23 years ago?

I thought Schumer and Pelosi were the leaders of the democrats now and Clinton just an also ran? Is 'what about Clinton' the American equivalent of me banging on about Miliband in a Theresa May thread or have I misunderstood how US politics works?


Halb

51,731 posts

144 months

Wednesday 14th February 2018
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THe good news is that the Clintons are history.

Maybe the Dems will find a decent candidate next time

I still think Oprah would smash it, a genuine self-made person

ferrisbueller

25,573 posts

188 months

Wednesday 14th February 2018
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rscott said:
What?
Tartan Pixie said:
ferrisbueller said:
Can someone please remind me why we're being linked to an article from 23 years ago?

I thought Schumer and Pelosi were the leaders of the democrats now and Clinton just an also ran? Is 'what about Clinton' the American equivalent of me banging on about Miliband in a Theresa May thread or have I misunderstood how US politics works?
This is my fault as I was going off at a tangent having done some reading and watching, which was originally triggered by Assange's warrant being, somewhat meaninglessly, upheld.

My point was not distraction or diversion but context and a hypothetical question about how the equivalent thread would look, or if it would exist, had Clinton won.



dmulally

5,448 posts

141 months

Wednesday 14th February 2018
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Gameface said:
Did Hillary win?
She still technically can win and after the break, we'll show you how...

dmulally

5,448 posts

141 months

Wednesday 14th February 2018
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Halb said:
I still think Oprah would smash it, a genuine self-made person
She could drone strike the fk out of Japan and still come off as a media darling.

I'd like to see her go up against Trump for the comedy of it all.

V6Pushfit

15,885 posts

71 months

Wednesday 14th February 2018
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Stormy back in the limelight again I see

Byker28i

31,817 posts

178 months

Wednesday 14th February 2018
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Countdown said:
Byker28i said:
Back to cohens payment, he used clever words, saying he used his personal funds to 'facilitate' payment, he acted as a conduit?
So after denying it, being clever to attack the allegation of the affair, rather than the payment, now admitting the payment, but saying it was to facilitate, the story of where the money came from, or if he was repaid, is still not known. I doubt that will stop the investigation into the campaign funds.
Ok, for the sake of argument let's assume that the lawyer paid Stormyzy for rumpy pumpy with Trumpy and then asking her to keep quiet about it.

Is any of that illegal? And will any of his supporters care?

If not then the Dems and the anti-Trumps need to focus on more important things. It's been long accepted by most people that Trump is a sleazebag par excellence. There's no point flogging a dead horse.

Why not focus on the proposed cuts to medicare/medicaid? That's one of his "lies" that could potentially have a real impact on a lot of his voters and it's a cause that a lot of Americans will get behind (unlike DACA). That's where i think the Dems should concentrate.
Asyou sayto his followers probably nothing,but we know trump doesn't like parting with money, hence getting the GOP to pay legal bills etc, his fundraising now the GOP has stopped. If the money did come from his campaign fund, then that's a legal issue, hence cohen stepping in
Just depends where the money trail goes, but then we could say that about trump over everything...

Eric Mc

113,779 posts

226 months

Wednesday 14th February 2018
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Halb said:
I still think Oprah would smash it, a genuine self-made person
With zero political experience.

She would just be another Trump.

FN2TypeR

7,091 posts

54 months

Wednesday 14th February 2018
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Eric Mc said:
Halb said:
I still think Oprah would smash it, a genuine self-made person
With zero political experience.

She would just be another Trump.
She really wouldn't be another Trump, c'mon now.

amgmcqueen

2,163 posts

111 months

Wednesday 14th February 2018
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I wonder how many volumes this will reach over the next 7 years...?
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