Iceland to ban circumcision

[Dromedary66]

DurianIceCream said:

Personal situations are irrelevant. A third to half the males on the planet are circumcised. I was just replying to your post, which was monumentally stupid. I like how you just laid down the law to your wife instead of talking about it. Bit rich if you to call everyone else savages then, isn't it champ?

I will take that as a yes.

[oilbethere]

Dromedary66 said:

DurianIceCream said:

Personal situations are irrelevant. A third to half the males on the planet are circumcised. I was just replying to your post, which was monumentally stupid. I like how you just laid down the law to your wife instead of talking about it. Bit rich if you to call everyone else savages then, isn't it champ?

I will take that as a yes.

Ha ha.

[BugLebowski]

oilbethere said:

Dromedary66 said:

DurianIceCream said:

Personal situations are irrelevant. A third to half the males on the planet are circumcised. I was just replying to your post, which was monumentally stupid. I like how you just laid down the law to your wife instead of talking about it. Bit rich if you to call everyone else savages then, isn't it champ?

I will take that as a yes.

Ha ha.

Classic case of foreskin envy

[Troubleatmill]

Gary C said:

It's child abuse, so we'll done Iceland.

^ This. This and this.


Cue the cries of " A study carried out by... arse gravy organisation...'

I seriously believe if Sky Fairy Bible said - ( to paraphrase Christopher Hitchens ) - "Every 2nd child must walk in darkness" - we would be blinding our kids.

The tissue isn't yours.

Edited by Troubleatmill on Tuesday 20th February 22:51

[RobDickinson]

I thought we were as God intended.

Obviously apart from that bit of cock skin...

[DurianIceCream]

Gary C said:

It's child abuse, so we'll done Iceland.

Circumcision reduces the rate of sexual HIV transmission by well over half. It is very effective in saving lives in high HIV prevalence countries. Or you could say it is very effective in reducing the significant cost of proving HIV antiretroviral drugs to thousands or millions of people over their lifetime, because they did not contract HIV to start with.

[gooner1]

DurianIceCream said:

Gary C said:

It's child abuse, so we'll done Iceland.

Circumcision reduces the rate of sexual HIV transmission by well over half. It is very effective in saving lives in high HIV prevalence countries. Or you could say it is very effective in reducing the significant cost of proving HIV antiretroviral drugs to thousands or millions of people over their lifetime, because they did not contract HIV to start with.

What % of children are passing or contracting HIV in Iceland
through sexual contact?

Edited by gooner1 on Tuesday 20th February 23:03

[RobDickinson]

Wikipedia says 300 cases of hiv in Iceland mostly from gay men and drug use.

Data on circumcision and aids is based around hetro sex.

Either way it should really be the individuals choice when mature enough to decide rather than mutilated as a child.

[DurianIceCream]

Troubleatmill said:

^ This. This and this.


Cue the cries of " A study carried out by... arse gravy organisation...'

I seriously believe if Sky Fairy Bible said - ( to paraphrase Christopher Hitchens ) - "Every 2nd child must walk in darkness" - we would be blinding our kids.

I see this thread has brought out the ideologues.

Here is some gravy for your arse, from the American Academy of Pediatrics.
https://www.aap.org/en-us/about-the-aap/aap-press-...

[Dromedary66]

DurianIceCream said:

Circumcision reduces the rate of sexual HIV transmission by well over half. It is very effective in saving lives in high HIV prevalence countries. Or you could say it is very effective in reducing the significant cost of proving HIV antiretroviral drugs to thousands or millions of people over their lifetime, because they did not contract HIV to start with.

This has been debunked as the myth it is by medical experts for years http://www.bmj.com/rapid-response/2011/10/28/circu...

It is nothing more than retrospective justification for a practice that was originally invented to curb masturbation as it was regarded as sinful by religious nutters.

Even if it did, that is not a good reason to routinely do it.

[Mothersruin]

There was a discussion on 5Live today and the guy in favour of circumcision, Jewish I think, was drilled down and the only reason he could come up that wasn't countered by facts was that it was part of the book that was the covenant between man and god. That was his basic argument.

I'd got to the end of my journey and got out of the car so I don't know if he was questioned about cherry picking stuff to follow and ignoring other stuff, or should the books be taken literaly to their natural conclusion.

I assume not.

[DurianIceCream]

Dromedary66 said:

DurianIceCream said:

Circumcision reduces the rate of sexual HIV transmission by well over half. It is very effective in saving lives in high HIV prevalence countries. Or you could say it is very effective in reducing the significant cost of proving HIV antiretroviral drugs to thousands or millions of people over their lifetime, because they did not contract HIV to start with.

This has been debunked as the myth it is by medical experts for years http://www.bmj.com/rapid-response/2011/10/28/circu...

It is nothing more than retrospective justification for a practice that was originally invented to curb masturbation as it was regarded as sinful by religious nutters.

Even if it did, that is not a good reason to routinely do it.

An exceptionally moronic response well worthy of someone dumb enough to tout out the savages line in your first post.

You have not quoted the article in the BMJ. You have quoted a response, by a single person, to an article about various things related to HIV. That person who made the response was a member of an organisation called "Doctors Opposing Circumcision". Do you think this would be a peer reviewed and objective response, having come from a doctor "Opposing Circumcision"

The reduction in transmission rates in people who are circumcised is well documented. You could start with the WHO advice here:
http://www.who.int/hiv/topics/malecircumcision/en/
Or this link to 40 peer-reviewed studies here:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC11273...

[BrassMan]

Gameface said:

DurianIceCream said:

Dromedary66 said:

It won't ever happen here sadly as there are too many powerful Jew and Muslim groups who just absolutely love lopping bits off their childrens' cocks and want to protect their right to do so. The barbaric savages. And I say that as someone who is married to a Jewish woman and I have told her unequivocally that she won't be doing that to our children!

Oh fking yawn. Everything you do affects your children, nut just circumcision. Living in a city. Eating processed food. Breathing in engine fumes. Being exposed to high levels of ionising radiation when you take a flight. But you are too thick to think of that and just jizzed yourself into a lather about your personal crusade.

Where the fk did all that come from?

This is pretty calm for a circumcision thread. By page 5 it should be really entertaining.

[wc98]

DurianIceCream said:

Personal situations are irrelevant. A third to half the males on the planet are circumcised. I was just replying to your post, which was monumentally stupid. I like how you just laid down the law to your wife instead of talking about it. Bit rich if you to call everyone else savages then, isn't it champ?

which method do you prefer ? proper medical or the blood sucked off by mouth ?

[RobDickinson]

So mutilate a child for a disease they might catch when sexually active thats only been around for the last 20-30 years?

might as well remove the heart too , prevent heart disease...

[BugLebowski]

DurianIceCream said:

Circumcision reduces the rate of sexual HIV transmission by well over half. It is very effective in saving lives in high HIV prevalence countries. Or you could say it is very effective in reducing the significant cost of proving HIV antiretroviral drugs to thousands or millions of people over their lifetime, because they did not contract HIV to start with.

Castration cuts the rate of testicular cancer by 100%

[DurianIceCream]

BugLebowski said:

Castration cuts the rate of testicular cancer by 100%

Have you tried it?

[Leptons]

eldar said:

Ban it, certainly. Putting male circumcision in the same class as FGM is completely wrong. The results of the two are not comparable in the degree of barbarity.

It’s the male equivalent, simple as.

[gooner1]

DurianIceCream.

I'll try again.

If an infant male is passing on Or contracting Hiv,
Would this not be through the actions of an adult, and how
would circumcision prevent this?

[DurianIceCream]

Leptons said:

It’s the male equivalent, simple as.

You better write into the Home Secretary then, given as one is unlawful in the UK and one isn't. You should be able to explain it just fine. Or just refer to this thread.