Inside Britains Moped Crime Gangs

Inside Britains Moped Crime Gangs

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ShampooEfficient

4,267 posts

211 months

Thursday 22nd February 2018
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Wacky Racer said:
I think that piece is made up, surely no one says "innit" that much?..........
Man does.

soad

32,877 posts

176 months

Thursday 22nd February 2018
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Losers. Likely to end up getting bummed in a prison too.

audidoody

8,597 posts

256 months

Thursday 22nd February 2018
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So some hackette gets to ride pillion with them for her story but the police can't catch them.

OK

Rawwr

22,722 posts

234 months

Thursday 22nd February 2018
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soad said:
Losers. Likely to end up getting bummed in a prison too.
They're not losing though, are they? They're making a lot of money each week, not paying any tax, not having any risk of being caught or have anyone stopping them and still able to claim benefits. Prison? Hah! They'll never see it!

soad

32,877 posts

176 months

Thursday 22nd February 2018
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Rawwr said:
They're not losing though, are they? They're making a lot of money each week, not paying any tax, not having any risk of being caught or have anyone stopping them and still able to claim benefits. Prison? Hah! They'll never see it!
It won't last. Can't see them investing their ill gotten gains either, it'll get spent.

audidoody

8,597 posts

256 months

Thursday 22nd February 2018
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So some hackette gets to ride pillion with them for her story but the police can't catch them.

OK

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 22nd February 2018
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markcoznottz said:
The police must know where they live? Dawn raid take all thier scooters, release them upon proof of ownership, mot, insurance etc, plus compulsory fingerprinting to see if any outstanding. Easy.
I've emailed this to the lead in the Met.

This is the one sentence solution they've been waiting for! laugh

davethebunny said:
When you’ve got the police basically saying the onus is on the owners to prevent theft, rather than taking the lead in detecting and working with the cps to prevent this then you realise how fked it is. Look at mets proposal:

https://www.met.police.uk/scootersecurity
Are they saying that or are they giving crime prevention advice?

'An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure'.

audidoody said:
So some hackette gets to ride pillion with them for her story but the police can't catch them.

OK
I don't think they were trying to get away from her and take advantage of the legal limitations and obligations she doesn't have.

oyster

12,585 posts

248 months

Thursday 22nd February 2018
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Harry H said:
We need to be absolutely firm that if a copper indicates you to stop, you do so. If in anyway you disobay their request anything that happens afterwards is pretty much your fault. Everyone should also be aware that they will always give chase until the offender is aprehended.

I'm so bored of all these "promising young footballers" being untouchable.
If said thugs takes out a mother and 2 year old on a crossing as part of being apprehended at all costs, is that a good result?

DurianIceCream

999 posts

94 months

Thursday 22nd February 2018
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oyster said:
Harry H said:
We need to be absolutely firm that if a copper indicates you to stop, you do so. If in anyway you disobay their request anything that happens afterwards is pretty much your fault. Everyone should also be aware that they will always give chase until the offender is aprehended.

I'm so bored of all these "promising young footballers" being untouchable.
If said thugs takes out a mother and 2 year old on a crossing as part of being apprehended at all costs, is that a good result?
You could make failing to stop a serious offence, rather than a not particularly serious offence as it is now. If you were to fail to stop in New South Wales for example, I think it is 6 months banged up.

croyde

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22,839 posts

230 months

Thursday 22nd February 2018
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That's a load of bks from the police about security.

I had all the heaviest and most expensive chain, padlock and disc lock yet all that was left of my bike was the part of the thick chain link. Angle grinder took it apart in seconds.

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 22nd February 2018
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croyde said:
That's a load of bks from the police about security.

I had all the heaviest and most expensive chain, padlock and disc lock yet all that was left of my bike was the part of the thick chain link. Angle grinder took it apart in seconds.
It's crime prevention, which aimsto make it less probable to become a victim - thus the wording 'reduce your risk'.

It's not a guarantee. Like all crime prevention.


Rawwr

22,722 posts

234 months

Thursday 22nd February 2018
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oyster said:
If said thugs takes out a mother and 2 year old on a crossing as part of being apprehended at all costs, is that a good result?
If they threw acid into the face of a mother with a 2-year old a couple of weeks later because they were able to get away, is that a good result?

There's no right answer when it comes to 'IF'. All we can do is take steps to mitigate harm to innocents. Inaction is not mitigation.

Boydie88

3,283 posts

149 months

Thursday 22nd February 2018
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soad said:
Losers. Likely to end up getting bummed in a prison too.
Do you have any faith in that being true in this country? Say something mean on Twitter on the other hand...

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 22nd February 2018
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Rawwr said:
oyster said:
If said thugs takes out a mother and 2 year old on a crossing as part of being apprehended at all costs, is that a good result?
If they threw acid into the face of a mother with a 2-year old a couple of weeks later because they were able to get away, is that a good result?

There's no right answer when it comes to 'IF'. All we can do is take steps to mitigate harm to innocents. Inaction is not mitigation.
The present and immediate future risk presented by a high risk pursuit is different from the risk of future speculative crime.

It's no good trying to prevent harm by apprehending someone failing to stop if they skittle a load of people at school finishing time, for example.

Complex problems don't have simplistic solutions.

I don't care about the people failing to stop. Give me the legal protections and a Mad Max car and I'll rejoin the police, chase and ram them off them all day. I do care about innocent people getting harmed during pursuits and have seen it when it happens.




soad

32,877 posts

176 months

Thursday 22nd February 2018
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Boydie88 said:
Do you have any faith in that being true in this country? Say something mean on Twitter on the other hand...
It's true though, eventually. These are no iron pumping hardcore crims.

Don't fk with ttter these days, my time's too precious to waste on social media.

heebeegeetee

28,671 posts

248 months

Thursday 22nd February 2018
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There's a Facebook page to one of these scrotes when he crashed and died trying to get away from the police. His sister started the page, devoted to her brother who of course, she regarded as totally innocent and that he was killed by the police. Sadly she had tons of support on Facebook.

Someone here on PH posted a link to the page, I did see it but I can't (or dont want to) remember the scrotes name. Anyone got a link to it, just wondering how it's faring these days given the levels of crime these scooter scrotes are committing.

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 22nd February 2018
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heebeegeetee said:
There's a Facebook page to one of these scrotes when he crashed and died trying to get away from the police. His sister started the page, devoted to her brother who of course, she regarded as totally innocent and that he was killed by the police. Sadly she had tons of support on Facebook.

Someone here on PH posted a link to the page, I did see it but I can't (or dont want to) remember the scrotes name. Anyone got a link to it, just wondering how it's faring these days given the levels of crime these scooter scrotes are committing.
Was it Henry Hicks?

If so, fun times for the police officers involved who've only recently been exonerated for an incident which occurred in December 2014.

http://www.islingtongazette.co.uk/news/henry-hicks...


Russian Troll Bot

24,962 posts

227 months

Thursday 22nd February 2018
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La Liga said:
heebeegeetee said:
There's a Facebook page to one of these scrotes when he crashed and died trying to get away from the police. His sister started the page, devoted to her brother who of course, she regarded as totally innocent and that he was killed by the police. Sadly she had tons of support on Facebook.

Someone here on PH posted a link to the page, I did see it but I can't (or dont want to) remember the scrotes name. Anyone got a link to it, just wondering how it's faring these days given the levels of crime these scooter scrotes are committing.
Was it Henry Hicks?

If so, fun times for the police officers involved who've only recently been exonerated for an incident which occurred in December 2014.

http://www.islingtongazette.co.uk/news/henry-hicks...
I remember someone came on here trying to drum up support for him, which went as well a you would think

Frybywire

467 posts

196 months

Thursday 22nd February 2018
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La Liga said:
Complex problems don't have simplistic solutions.
In NP&E they do.

soad

32,877 posts

176 months

Thursday 22nd February 2018
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Hmm, didn't realise this episode was on the iPlayer, watching it now.