6pts for 26 in a 20?

[esxste]

Who told you it's 6 points?

[kiethton]

If the ticket has gone elsewhere and you haven't responded to it, its likely a failure to disclose - 6 points

Would have thought it would have been a course if received and responded to within the time frame however.

[giantdefy]

It is obviously bks

Enforcement starts at 24mph (20 + 10% +2)
Awareness course (if you haven't done one in the last three years) 24 - 31mph otherwise £100 and 3 points
>31mph straight to court (or Single Justice Procedure).

As to 6 points reduced to 3, I refer you to my first sentence.

[kiethton]

giantdefy said:

It is obviously bks

Enforcement starts at 24mph (20 + 10% +2)
Awareness course (if you haven't done one in the last three years) 24 - 31mph otherwise £100 and 3 points
>31mph straight to court (or Single Justice Procedure).

As to 6 points reduced to 3, I refer you to my first sentence.

In that case I'm bloody glad the blanket 20's near me aren't enforced - most people still do the standard 35 through them, others significantly more!

Good one Lewisham, changing the limit for no apparent reason isn't exactly going to make a difference is it

[feef]

anonymous said:

[redacted]

If it's failure to disclose, then it's the registered keeper who's getting those points, not you.

I fell foul of this while I was working away. I got home after the NIP had dropped on the mat and despite sending it back, it arrived after the appropriate date so I ended up looking at 6 points.

[agtlaw]

The form mentions 6 points for failing to disclose driver information.

It is possible to get 3-6 penalty points for speeding or otherwise a ban of any length. However, 24-31 mph inclusive is usually a NSAC20 speed awareness course. If not then 24-34 mph is a £100 fixed penalty and 3 point endorsement. If you went to court then 21-30 has a guideline of 3 points and a Band A fine.

I gather that NSAC20 is available even if you’ve completed a NSAC within the last 3 years.

[agtlaw]

giantdefy said:

It is obviously bks

Enforcement starts at 24mph (20 + 10% +2)
Awareness course (if you haven't done one in the last three years) 24 - 31mph otherwise £100 and 3 points
>31mph straight to court (or Single Justice Procedure).

As to 6 points reduced to 3, I refer you to my first sentence.

The same course. NSAC20 is not NSAC.

Fixed penalty to 34 mph. 35 mph before a SJPN would be issued.

[Johnnytheboy]

That's insane.

Where should I not be driving to avoid this?

[shakotan]

I thought 20 limits weren't 'enforceable', or have I been listening to pub chat too much?

[Trophy Husband]

Johnnytheboy said:

That's insane.

Where should I not be driving to avoid this?

20 mph limits I would guess?

Seems excessive and/or wrong.

[croyde]

Coming across West London late the other night from Greenford to SW London and I drove down so many 20mph roads.

I tried, I really did but was probably around 25/26 looking at my speedo (far to often and thus not keeping a good eye on what was happening outside the car).

The worse thing was the vicious tailgating, I presume from locals that knew where the cameras were, and being subject to dodgy overtakes.

I did a course once, for 88 on a motorway. I felt sorry for all the 36 in a 30 people.

[eldar]

shakotan said:

I thought 20 limits weren't 'enforceable', or have I been listening to pub chat too much?

My understanding is that 20mph limits are supposed to be 'self enforcing' - IE it is difficult to do more than 20 driving sensibly, or temporary limits around school start/finishing times, so similar.

[Cat]

eldar said:

shakotan said:

I thought 20 limits weren't 'enforceable', or have I been listening to pub chat too much?

My understanding is that 20mph limits are supposed to be 'self enforcing' - IE it is difficult to do more than 20 driving sensibly, or temporary limits around school start/finishing times, so similar.

You are perhaps confusing 20 mph limits and 20 mph zones. Limits can be enforced, zones should be self enforcing.

Cat

[Cat]

The paperwork you received sets out the maximum possible penalties for a speeding offence, it doesn't say you will receive 6 points.

Cat

[RedSwede]

Christ. This is getting crazy.

To be honest, probably to the massive annoyance of a lot of people on PH, I really do pootle around urban areas. But 20s are being applied in daft areas now, and all the cars I have/have had recently with cable speedos swing easily +/-5mph right down at the bottom. I think the effort for me to be that accurate in a 20, whilst actually still moving, is simply too great to be realistic.

Edit: read the paperwork. Not so bad. But point above stands - in an old car, even keeping between 15-20 can be guesswork.

Edited by RedSwede on Thursday 22 February 15:57

[croyde]

Beat me to it Cat. Maybe a ban for 26 in a 20

[agtlaw]

As explained above, the court can endorse 3-6 penalty points or you can be disqualified from driving for any length.

Avoid court proceedings by:

(a) completing a course

or

(b) paying a £100 fixed penalty / 3 points

Also, if court proceedings are instituted then, again as explained above, 26/20 has a guideline of 3 penalty points.

Edited by agtlaw on Thursday 22 February 16:53

[aquarianone]

That's crazy....does not compute.

I got offered a course for 37 in a 30 instead of points...maybe Hampshire's a bit more forgiving!

[Cat]

anonymous said:

[redacted]

Nope, it doesn't say it's referring to your specific case. It states "the alleged offence" which in this case is speeding, and that is what the letter gives the maximum penalties for.

Cat

[CAPP0]

What am I missing here? To me:

That NIP said:

The alleged offence carries a maximum fine of £1000.......blah blah...... and a driving licence endorsement of 6 penalty points or disqualification.....blah blah.....

So yes, you could be fined £1k and get 6 points but that's the maximum, surely it'll be the standard £100/3pts (or a course)?