Stormzy’s attack on TM, justified or not?

[Not-The-Messiah]

BJG1 said:

Biker 1 said:

The Surveyor said:

He was performing on the Brits because of his music's popularity, not his politics.

What sort of demographic is interested in the Brits??

his album went to number 1, the first grime artist to do so, it's the fastest growing music genre in the UK and Stormzy in particular is making it popular in America too. Just because you don't like it, doesn't mean it isn't popular and Stormzy and his peers aren't talented artists.

Grime, gangster rap and so on all survive on sad white kids buying it thinking they are some sort of urban gangsters themselves. When really they are soft mummys boys, it's sad.

[chrispmartha]

Not-The-Messiah said:

BJG1 said:

Biker 1 said:

The Surveyor said:

He was performing on the Brits because of his music's popularity, not his politics.

What sort of demographic is interested in the Brits??

his album went to number 1, the first grime artist to do so, it's the fastest growing music genre in the UK and Stormzy in particular is making it popular in America too. Just because you don't like it, doesn't mean it isn't popular and Stormzy and his peers aren't talented artists.

Grime, gangster rap and so on all survive on sad white kids buying it thinking they are some sort of urban gangsters themselves. When really they are soft mummys boys, it's sad.

Not half as sad as some of the comments on here, including yours

[Randy Winkman]

Not-The-Messiah said:

BJG1 said:

Biker 1 said:

The Surveyor said:

He was performing on the Brits because of his music's popularity, not his politics.

What sort of demographic is interested in the Brits??

his album went to number 1, the first grime artist to do so, it's the fastest growing music genre in the UK and Stormzy in particular is making it popular in America too. Just because you don't like it, doesn't mean it isn't popular and Stormzy and his peers aren't talented artists.

Grime, gangster rap and so on all survive on sad white kids buying it thinking they are some sort of urban gangsters themselves. When really they are soft mummys boys, it's sad.

Do you think black kids buy it? And either way, do you think white kids should only buy white music? I like Jimi Hendrix and I'm white. Is that OK?

[Cold]

Randy Winkman said:

Do you think black kids buy it? And either way, do you think white kids should only buy white music? I like Jimi Hendrix and I'm white. Is that OK?

Depends. What's your Michael Jackson collection like?

[Einion Yrth]

Randy Winkman said:

do you think white kids should only buy white music?

What on earth is "white music"? Music, as far as I can tell doesn't recognise either race or colour. Having said that, I prefer music with melody and harmony being more to the forefront than rhythm, but all form a part of the art.

[JimbobVFR]

Just seen this

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5429143/Gr...

So it appears Stormzy can make a difference of sorts.

[Rich_W]

JimbobVFR said:

Just seen this

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5429143/Gr...

So it appears Stormzy can make a difference of sorts.

And like every petition for the government they (Parliament) discuss it and say they'll do something in the future. Only the thick sign those now.


I'm waiting for Stormy to try and stop young black males from stabbing to death other black males!


I guess his high paying puppeteers don't care enough about that to get him to comment on it....

[BigMon]

I'm sure Stormzy is gutted that a website with a high proportion of older, right-wing posters disapproves of his Brits performance.

Probably sobbing as I type.

[Randy Winkman]

Einion Yrth said:

Randy Winkman said:

do you think white kids should only buy white music?

What on earth is "white music"? Music, as far as I can tell doesn't recognise either race or colour.

There isn't any. It was a response to Not-the-Messiah's point out that Stormzy was bought by white kids as if he thought it made a difference they were white and he is black.

[Jonesy23]

Who gives a st what that homophobic thinks?

Though good to see the usual hypocrites are perfectly happy to overlook that when it suits their politics.

[chrispmartha]

Jonesy23 said:

Who gives a st what that homophobic thinks?

Though good to see the usual hypocrites are perfectly happy to overlook that when it suits their politics.

Where has anyone overlooked anything?, I personally haven’t given any opinion on Stormzy either as an artist or a person.

[Red 4]

Jonesy23 said:

Who gives a st what that homophobic thinks?

The government.

https://news.sky.com/story/rapper-stormzy-continue...

[mx5nut]

anonymous said:

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We're currently a few posts away from one starting with "I'm not racist but..."

[Randy Winkman]

chrispmartha said:

Jonesy23 said:

Who gives a st what that homophobic thinks?

Though good to see the usual hypocrites are perfectly happy to overlook that when it suits their politics.

Where has anyone overlooked anything?, I personally haven’t given any opinion on Stormzy either as an artist or a person.

I "overlooked it" because it never occurred to me it was relevant to my replies on this thread.

[BigMon]

chrispmartha said:

Jonesy23 said:

Who gives a st what that homophobic thinks?

Though good to see the usual hypocrites are perfectly happy to overlook that when it suits their politics.

Where has anyone overlooked anything?, I personally haven’t given any opinion on Stormzy either as an artist or a person.

Don't think anybody has defended Stormzy, just pointed out that he probably doesn't give a flying toss about the tirades of Pistonheads.

Doesn't suit the narrative though, so 'ZOMG lefties'.

[ZX10R NIN]

anonymous said:

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You do realise young white males stab other young white males to death at a greater rates than young black males do!!!

Also you do realise that the last statement is how a lot of young people think (without the Ali G dialect) be they black white Indian Chinese or whatever, also all races sell & take drugs so lets get rid of any racial conortones shall we.

[chrispmartha]

anonymous said:

[redacted]

So... what point were you trying to make with your post? And why did you write it in that way?

[Jonmx]

The bloke's a bit of a nobber as far as I'm concerned. An opinion I hold on most celebrities who feel that because they've done some make believe in a film or sung a song or two that they absolutely must share their opinions and views with us. For the most part it's virtue signalling, but with this bloke he's pushing his own political views hard. He has publicly endorsed Corbyn, criticised May on more than one occasion and appeared in a list of the 100 most influential people on the left.
Whilst not officially endorsed by Labour, these were well circulated by all accounts.


His vocal criticism of the Met for racial profiling went well with his album cover for 'Gang signs and Prayer.' Whilst I don't think much of his music, that's simply a matter of preference. If I judge him by his (non sung) words and actions, I'm not massively impressed. Not to take away from his success though, that is impressive. Billy Bragg in Grime perhaps.
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[Russian Troll Bot]

Maybe he could help make his community better by not releasing songs bragging about how he's a badass gangster and will stab people who disrespect him?

[ZX10R NIN]

anonymous said:

[redacted]

Look at what you replied to, you commented on someone quoting stabbings.

So either you didn't read the post you were replying to or you have a selective memory.