Retrofit self driving system

Retrofit self driving system

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Davey_b

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Friday 23rd February 2018
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Came across this last night and thought it was very interesting: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8xaniiSYZo

Basically it's the guy that did the first jailbreak on the iphone and also the PS3. He is developing a system that taps into sensor already on cars and then uses vision software on a phone that is being used as a dash cam to retrofit self driving capabilities to cars. As it stands the system is about level 2 (what Tesla Autopilot is) but they're developing it and using crowd sourced data to aid the system learn. Basically you can download an app and then set your phone up in your car as a dashcam and the drives are sent to their servers for the system to machine learn how to drive. Very interesting approach and technology. More info here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePJbekKUU5U

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwOnsT2UW5o

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

126 months

Friday 23rd February 2018
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"...that taps into sensors already on cars", "phone that is being used as a dashcam"...?

So, basically, it's going off parking binglies and a single forward-facing cam?

What could possibly go wrong...?

Fertheloveofgawd.

Even they don't quite bill it as self-driving if you look closely. It's simply replacing the existing lane assist and adaptive cruise software.
https://github.com/commaai/openpilot

Davey_b

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Friday 23rd February 2018
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TooMany2cvs said:
"...that taps into sensors already on cars", "phone that is being used as a dashcam"...?

So, basically, it's going off parking binglies and a single forward-facing cam?

What could possibly go wrong...?

Fertheloveofgawd.

Even they don't quite bill it as self-driving if you look closely. It's simply replacing the existing lane assist and adaptive cruise software.
https://github.com/commaai/openpilot
hahahahahaha, no one's suggesting it's a fully fledged self driving system yet, but that's the road they're on and this is arguably a more innovative and efficient way of getting there.

Suggest you watch this to get a bit more of the idea: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqdYbwY9vPU&t=...

TooMany2cvs

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126 months

Friday 23rd February 2018
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Davey_b said:
hahahahahaha, no one's suggesting it's a fully fledged self driving system yet
Well, apart from the thread title and the comparison to Tesla Autopilot.

Davey_b

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Friday 23rd February 2018
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TooMany2cvs said:
Well, apart from the thread title and the comparison to Tesla Autopilot.
So you think Autopilot is a fully fledged self driving system....? Do you understand the levels of self driving?

TooMany2cvs

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Friday 23rd February 2018
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Davey_b said:
TooMany2cvs said:
Well, apart from the thread title and the comparison to Tesla Autopilot.
So you think Autopilot is a fully fledged self driving system....? Do you understand the levels of self driving?
Yes, thank you.

And this appears to be no more than a simple software-swap for L1 lane assist and adaptive cruise.

Davey_b

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TooMany2cvs said:
Yes, thank you.

And this appears to be no more than a simple software-swap for L1 lane assist and adaptive cruise.
What more does Autopilot do at the moment?

The point is it's an interesting way of approaching the issue of self driving and as more sensors are added to new cars, as they will be, it can potentially be used to augment these systems to produce self driving capabilities in mainstream cars at a fraction of the cost of bespoke solutions.

TooMany2cvs

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Friday 23rd February 2018
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Davey_b said:
...and as more sensors are added to new cars, as they will be, it can potentially be used to augment these systems to produce self driving capabilities in mainstream cars at a fraction of the cost of bespoke solutions.
That's the bit that terrifies me.

Davey_b

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Friday 23rd February 2018
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TooMany2cvs said:
That's the bit that terrifies me.
Why because you'd rather pay more for something...?

0ddball

862 posts

139 months

Friday 23rd February 2018
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With a lot of people's attitude towards disposable cars now, by the time this is feasible and ready to market, it will be outdated and unwanted tech.


akirk

5,390 posts

114 months

Friday 23rd February 2018
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I was rather expecting a broom to poke the accelerator and some string to tie down the steering wheel!

AppleJuice

2,154 posts

85 months

Friday 23rd February 2018
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akirk said:
I was rather expecting a broom to poke the accelerator and some string to tie down the steering wheel!

AppleJuice

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85 months

Friday 23rd February 2018
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Article Title said:
Retrofit self driving system
Cabbie said:
Where to guv?

TooMany2cvs

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126 months

Friday 23rd February 2018
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Davey_b said:
TooMany2cvs said:
That's the bit that terrifies me.
Why because you'd rather pay more for something...?
You're already paying for the systems as part of the car - all this does is swap the software out. It's open-source, so can relatively easily be... re-prioritised, shall we say? And you only need to look at the attitudes in just about every cyclist-versus-car thread here to follow the implications of that.

rxe

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103 months

Friday 23rd February 2018
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Humans drive cars perfectly well with a forward facing camera. OK, the human camera in most cases has depth perception, but people with only one eye still drive....

TooMany2cvs

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Friday 23rd February 2018
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rxe said:
Humans drive cars perfectly well with a forward facing camera. OK, the human camera in most cases has depth perception, but people with only one eye still drive....
...an extremely high-resolution camera that can change position dynamically, and is provided with additional optical tools enabling almost 360deg vision.