Major incident at Salisbury District Hospital
Discussion
elanfan said:
As for the two suspects whose aliases we have not only did they fly out after the attack but do you reckon they are actually still alive.
I'm amazed they didn't manage to kill themselves when spreading the nerve agent around.It does beg the question that if traces of Novichok were found in the hotel room two months after the attack what measures were taken by the authorities to contact anyone who stayed in the room in the intervening period - if they did, how did they manage to keep it quiet, and if they didn't, why not?
The fact that by May the amount was deemed not to be at risk doesn't preclude there having been significantly more of the stuff there early on, and the daily cleaning a hotel room might be expected to experience gradually dilute the contamination.
TTmonkey said:
effkay said:
Announced names that are thought to be false. Well that's a shocker. Takes them what, 6 months to come up with a photo of someone that probably left the country within hours of the event.
Clearly no kind of extradition is going to happen.
Who needs extradition....? Putin will do the right thing and have them arrested and held until British authorities can question them in Russia - they did, after all, promise to help with the investigation all they could....!
Back in the real world. Can't wait for the RT brigade's response to this.
Come on guys. The suspense is killing me.
Back in the real world. Can't wait for the RT brigade's response to this.
Come on guys. The suspense is killing me.
poo at Paul's said:
Who is saying "f
k em?". Read and quote the WHOLE post I wrote, which I wrote, incidently, as a survivor of meningitis myself! I clearly state that I hope it isn't as bad as his brother, (not any clinicians, doctors etc) is reporting in the papers.
But I stand my comments and concern that a lifestyle such as the one lead by these victims of this poisoning cannot "help matters". It cannot be helping him in his fight against meningitis and indeed could be a major factor in him contracting it, AS COULD his Novichok poisoning and subsequent treatment.
But it is a fact that the poor sods accidently infected by the Novichok discarded container live a lifestyle that the majority of us don't live, ie homeless, history of drug use and abuse etc, one could argue it is a significant contributory factor to the poisoning itself. IE they were more at risk of finding a discarded container etc compared to people who live a more conformist life?
I reiterate, I hope it is not as bad as the brother is making out to the press, and I hope that his meningitis treatment is as successful as mine was!
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You come across as a very mean-spirited snob.k em?". Read and quote the WHOLE post I wrote, which I wrote, incidently, as a survivor of meningitis myself! I clearly state that I hope it isn't as bad as his brother, (not any clinicians, doctors etc) is reporting in the papers. But I stand my comments and concern that a lifestyle such as the one lead by these victims of this poisoning cannot "help matters". It cannot be helping him in his fight against meningitis and indeed could be a major factor in him contracting it, AS COULD his Novichok poisoning and subsequent treatment.
But it is a fact that the poor sods accidently infected by the Novichok discarded container live a lifestyle that the majority of us don't live, ie homeless, history of drug use and abuse etc, one could argue it is a significant contributory factor to the poisoning itself. IE they were more at risk of finding a discarded container etc compared to people who live a more conformist life?
I reiterate, I hope it is not as bad as the brother is making out to the press, and I hope that his meningitis treatment is as successful as mine was!
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Read just now about the bottle it was in. Was a spray perfume bottle and the lady who died sprayed it on her wrists apparently. I did wonder how it would have worked out.
On a seperate note - 100% guaranteed to be these blokes. There is no other explanation for their movements and the fact Novichok was found in the hotel in London. No one can call this anything else now.
2nd March flew in from Moscow, stayed the night in London.
3rd March went to Sailsbury (recon) back to London to sleep
4th March back to Sailsbury to do the deed, back to London and Fly to Moscow that evening.
On a seperate note - 100% guaranteed to be these blokes. There is no other explanation for their movements and the fact Novichok was found in the hotel in London. No one can call this anything else now.
2nd March flew in from Moscow, stayed the night in London.
3rd March went to Sailsbury (recon) back to London to sleep
4th March back to Sailsbury to do the deed, back to London and Fly to Moscow that evening.
Edited by p1stonhead on Wednesday 5th September 13:49
p1stonhead said:
Read just now about the bottle it was in. Was a spray perfume bottle and the lady who died sprayed it on her wrists apparently. I did wonder how it would have worked out.
On a seperate note - 100% guaranteed to be these blokes. There is no other explanation for their movements and the fact Novichok was found in the hotel in London. No one can call this anything else now.
2nd March flew in from Moscow, stayed the night in London.
3rd March went to Sailsbury (recon) back to London to sleep
4th March back to Sailsbury to do the deed, back to London and Fly to Moscow that evening.
Sky have the full time line, with pictures: https://news.sky.com/story/moscow-to-salisbury-nov...On a seperate note - 100% guaranteed to be these blokes. There is no other explanation for their movements and the fact Novichok was found in the hotel in London. No one can call this anything else now.
2nd March flew in from Moscow, stayed the night in London.
3rd March went to Sailsbury (recon) back to London to sleep
4th March back to Sailsbury to do the deed, back to London and Fly to Moscow that evening.
Edited by p1stonhead on Wednesday 5th September 13:49
Absolutely damning evidence.
GarageQueen said:
I can't understand why the suspects would expose themselves to so much CCTV coverage, or am I being naive?
You cant avoid it. These days its impossible to do anything without being filmed somewhere by something.Plus I suspect they knew they would be out the country before anyone had any clue WTF had happened.
GarageQueen said:
I can't understand why the suspects would expose themselves to so much CCTV coverage, or am I being naive?
I can't understand either...they do look like classic thugs so I don't have doubts they are the culprits, however who and why would order the poisoning this way? How did they get the visa if they (likely) had criminal record? False names? Cobnapint said:
Who needs extradition....? Putin will do the right thing and have them arrested and held until British authorities can question them in Russia - they did, after all, promise to help with the investigation all they could....!
Back in the real world. Can't wait for the RT brigade's response to this.
Come on guys. The suspense is killing me.
Back in the real world. Can't wait for the RT brigade's response to this.
Come on guys. The suspense is killing me.
PurpleMoonlight said:
I don't care.
I do care that the UK is accusing Russia of using chemical weapons and refusing to release the evidence to the accused. That flies in the face of the rule of law and justice.
Well now you've seen the evidence, what is your stance?I do care that the UK is accusing Russia of using chemical weapons and refusing to release the evidence to the accused. That flies in the face of the rule of law and justice.
And agent xmyph, we need to hear what Russia thinks now two of your officers from the GRU have been identified as suspects.
TTmonkey said:
effkay said:
Announced names that are thought to be false. Well that's a shocker. Takes them what, 6 months to come up with a photo of someone that probably left the country within hours of the event.
I would say it's a stunning piece of detective work all told.
jcremonini said:
TTmonkey said:
effkay said:
Announced names that are thought to be false. Well that's a shocker. Takes them what, 6 months to come up with a photo of someone that probably left the country within hours of the event.
I would say it's a stunning piece of detective work all told.
Im guessing they started with god knows how many hours of CCTV around the Skripals house to look for people who could have been there around the approx time, then trace every lead back somewhere until it concluded (how many dead ends to investigate!) whereby these guys were spotted getting off a plane from Moscow. Then I guess follow them forwards from the spotting near the Skripals until they got back on the plane to Moscow.
Fascinating.
Edited by p1stonhead on Wednesday 5th September 15:25
p1stonhead said:
GarageQueen said:
I can't understand why the suspects would expose themselves to so much CCTV coverage, or am I being naive?
You cant avoid it. These days its impossible to do anything without being filmed somewhere by something.Plus I suspect they knew they would be out the country before anyone had any clue WTF had happened.
I'd agree if they are not already dead they soon will be for being tracked and exposed.
Edited by 4x4Tyke on Wednesday 5th September 15:33
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