Major incident at Salisbury District Hospital
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Apparently The Mill pub has been declared safe and has been handed back to owners Greene King, who plan to have it open again later in the year. Yeah, good luck getting anyone to go in there I'm afraid. If the vehicles needed burying then The Mill and Zizzi should have been encased in a reinforced concrete sarcophagus.
Like I said, nothing adds up in this.
Like I said, nothing adds up in this.
zarjaz1991 said:
Apparently The Mill pub has been declared safe and has been handed back to owners Greene King, who plan to have it open again later in the year. Yeah, good luck getting anyone to go in there I'm afraid. If the vehicles needed burying then The Mill and Zizzi should have been encased in a reinforced concrete sarcophagus.
Like I said, nothing adds up in this.
Yeah - absolutely nothing adds up Like I said, nothing adds up in this.
First of all there are different levels of trace. Secondly, the traces in the hotel room were most likely contained on objects which could be removed. Lastly, nothing “needed” burying
- it’s simply the case that if something is replaceable ( like a vehicle or a bedsheet , but maybe not a whole church) then erring on the side of caution makes the most practical sense.
You might not want to set foot inside that pub but it wouldn’t bother me for one moment. Doubtless it will , out of caution, be stripped out and refurbished. For some reason I tend to trust chemical experts - certainly more than idiotic conspiracy theorists.
Puggit said:
Sky have the full time line, with pictures: https://news.sky.com/story/moscow-to-salisbury-nov...
Absolutely damning evidence.
If you look at the photos of them arriving in the airport, the 'Paused video still' shows them both passing though the same place at exactly the same second, which of course is impossible.Absolutely damning evidence.
No doubt there will be some technical explanation for it, but sloppiness like that annoys me.
All it does it give tinfoil hat nutters an excuse to scream fake news, doctored video footage, government are lying etc etc.
But generally yes, the evidence is extremely conclusive.
Lord Marylebone said:
If you look at the photos of them arriving in the airport, the 'Paused video still' shows them both passing though the same place at exactly the same second, which of course is impossible.
No doubt there will be some technical explanation for it, but sloppiness like that annoys me.
All it does it give tinfoil hat nutters an excuse to scream fake news, doctored video footage, government are lying etc etc.
But generally yes, the evidence is extremely conclusive.
Different queues at different passport control points. Next to each other. At the same time. No doubt there will be some technical explanation for it, but sloppiness like that annoys me.
All it does it give tinfoil hat nutters an excuse to scream fake news, doctored video footage, government are lying etc etc.
But generally yes, the evidence is extremely conclusive.
jcremonini said:
Yeah - absolutely nothing adds up
First of all there are different levels of trace. Secondly, the traces in the hotel room were most likely contained on objects which could be removed. Lastly, nothing “needed” burying
- it’s simply the case that if something is replaceable ( like a vehicle or a bedsheet , but maybe not a whole church) then erring on the side of caution makes the most practical sense.
You might not want to set foot inside that pub but it wouldn’t bother me for one moment. Doubtless it will , out of caution, be stripped out and refurbished. For some reason I tend to trust chemical experts - certainly more than idiotic conspiracy theorists.
Chemical experts who allowed the bench to remain in place for a long time after the attack and every other lapse of proper CBRN protocols?First of all there are different levels of trace. Secondly, the traces in the hotel room were most likely contained on objects which could be removed. Lastly, nothing “needed” burying
- it’s simply the case that if something is replaceable ( like a vehicle or a bedsheet , but maybe not a whole church) then erring on the side of caution makes the most practical sense.
You might not want to set foot inside that pub but it wouldn’t bother me for one moment. Doubtless it will , out of caution, be stripped out and refurbished. For some reason I tend to trust chemical experts - certainly more than idiotic conspiracy theorists.
Because to me and lots of others it seems like they have been making it up as they went along.
But, I digress.
Lord Marylebone said:
If you look at the photos of them arriving in the airport, the 'Paused video still' shows them both passing though the same place at exactly the same second, which of course is impossible.
No doubt there will be some technical explanation for it, but sloppiness like that annoys me.
All it does it give tinfoil hat nutters an excuse to scream fake news, doctored video footage, government are lying etc etc.
But generally yes, the evidence is extremely conclusive.
TT has already answered. Will be interesting to hear russian response to this...No doubt there will be some technical explanation for it, but sloppiness like that annoys me.
All it does it give tinfoil hat nutters an excuse to scream fake news, doctored video footage, government are lying etc etc.
But generally yes, the evidence is extremely conclusive.
Disastrous said:
poo at Paul's said:
Who is saying "f
k em?". Read and quote the WHOLE post I wrote, which I wrote, incidently, as a survivor of meningitis myself! I clearly state that I hope it isn't as bad as his brother, (not any clinicians, doctors etc) is reporting in the papers.
But I stand my comments and concern that a lifestyle such as the one lead by these victims of this poisoning cannot "help matters". It cannot be helping him in his fight against meningitis and indeed could be a major factor in him contracting it, AS COULD his Novichok poisoning and subsequent treatment.
But it is a fact that the poor sods accidently infected by the Novichok discarded container live a lifestyle that the majority of us don't live, ie homeless, history of drug use and abuse etc, one could argue it is a significant contributory factor to the poisoning itself. IE they were more at risk of finding a discarded container etc compared to people who live a more conformist life?
I reiterate, I hope it is not as bad as the brother is making out to the press, and I hope that his meningitis treatment is as successful as mine was!
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You come across as a very mean-spirited snob.k em?". Read and quote the WHOLE post I wrote, which I wrote, incidently, as a survivor of meningitis myself! I clearly state that I hope it isn't as bad as his brother, (not any clinicians, doctors etc) is reporting in the papers. But I stand my comments and concern that a lifestyle such as the one lead by these victims of this poisoning cannot "help matters". It cannot be helping him in his fight against meningitis and indeed could be a major factor in him contracting it, AS COULD his Novichok poisoning and subsequent treatment.
But it is a fact that the poor sods accidently infected by the Novichok discarded container live a lifestyle that the majority of us don't live, ie homeless, history of drug use and abuse etc, one could argue it is a significant contributory factor to the poisoning itself. IE they were more at risk of finding a discarded container etc compared to people who live a more conformist life?
I reiterate, I hope it is not as bad as the brother is making out to the press, and I hope that his meningitis treatment is as successful as mine was!
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Eric Mc said:
poo at Paul's said:
Cant help feeling that the lifestyle of the two most recent victims plays a large part in the whole situation and prognosis etc.
I hope it is not as bad as the brother is making out, I got the impression before that the brother was embracing his time in the limelight somewhat, this article doesn't mention much in the way of fact etc from clinicians and hospital staff etc, on behalf of the victim. So it just could be he is ill with meningitis and very poorly because that is what it does, and the Novichok angle is a red herring.
Yep - the usual PH victim blaming. It's his fault because of his lifestyle.I hope it is not as bad as the brother is making out, I got the impression before that the brother was embracing his time in the limelight somewhat, this article doesn't mention much in the way of fact etc from clinicians and hospital staff etc, on behalf of the victim. So it just could be he is ill with meningitis and very poorly because that is what it does, and the Novichok angle is a red herring.
4x4Tyke said:
We know that, but would your average disposable asset? I doubt it. If it was sanctioned I can't see Putin using and burning a trained/experienced spy that could be traced back to the regime. He is going to want to maintain plausible deniability and that means a disposable asset, at best some low level grunts and they would probably be complacent. If it was unsanctioned a highly skilled asset is even less likely.
I'd agree if they are not already dead they soon will be for being tracked and exposed.
Nice use of industry jargon. What branch to you work in?I'd agree if they are not already dead they soon will be for being tracked and exposed.
Edited by 4x4Tyke on Wednesday 5th September 15:33
What I'm finding particularly perplexing about this one is that those who are right wing - those that historically have found any invasion of our sovereignty as an act of aggression if not war - are the ones championing the "It's an inside UK job!".
It's fascinating the mental gymnastics at play.
It's fascinating the mental gymnastics at play.
Supercilious Sid said:
4x4Tyke said:
We know that, but would your average disposable asset? I doubt it. If it was sanctioned I can't see Putin using and burning a trained/experienced spy that could be traced back to the regime. He is going to want to maintain plausible deniability and that means a disposable asset, at best some low level grunts and they would probably be complacent. If it was unsanctioned a highly skilled asset is even less likely.
I'd agree if they are not already dead they soon will be for being tracked and exposed.
Nice use of industry jargon. What branch to you work in?I'd agree if they are not already dead they soon will be for being tracked and exposed.
Edited by 4x4Tyke on Wednesday 5th September 15:33
Lord Marylebone said:
Puggit said:
Sky have the full time line, with pictures: https://news.sky.com/story/moscow-to-salisbury-nov...
Absolutely damning evidence.
If you look at the photos of them arriving in the airport, the 'Paused video still' shows them both passing though the same place at exactly the same second, which of course is impossible.Absolutely damning evidence.
No doubt there will be some technical explanation for it, but sloppiness like that annoys me.
All it does it give tinfoil hat nutters an excuse to scream fake news, doctored video footage, government are lying etc etc.
But generally yes, the evidence is extremely conclusive.
Same as how we arrive at Waterloo and if walking along side by side, at the ticket barriers we'll just go through two adjoining barriers at the same time and carry on without stopping or reforming.
I see nothing unusual in those photos being the same timestamp, knowing those inspection corridors they're in are always several in parallel.
p1stonhead said:
Some utter mentalists (from the UK!) on the radio this morning calling it all fake still and blaming our government - doctored photos, hired actors etc etc
What world do these idiots live in? It must be insane.
Read back through this thread - there have been one or two here. Buy shares in an alu-foil company.What world do these idiots live in? It must be insane.
paua said:
p1stonhead said:
Some utter mentalists (from the UK!) on the radio this morning calling it all fake still and blaming our government - doctored photos, hired actors etc etc
What world do these idiots live in? It must be insane.
Read back through this thread - there have been one or two here. Buy shares in an alu-foil company.What world do these idiots live in? It must be insane.
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