Tommy Robinson attacked at McDonald’s

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768 said:

I'm still slightly bemused, what's he actually done that's so evil it warrants this?

He's made a career out of inciting hatred against muslims. That makes him a pretty vile individual in my book. YMMV.

[del mar]

768 said:

IforB said:

If Yaxley-Lennon found himself drowned in a vat of rancid horse pee, then the only reaction I’d have would be a nod of acceptance and a mild smirk.

I'm still slightly bemused, what's he actually done that's so evil it warrants this?

Whilst I haven’t read every one if Iforb’s posts he doesn’t appear to be have such strong feelings about murderers and child rapists.

It is almost as if pointing out failings / issues with our Muslim population is a far far worse crime than the rape and murder that they committed.

[del mar]

Countdown said:

He's made a career out of inciting hatred against muslims. That makes him a pretty vile individual in my book. YMMV.

Or has a made a career of pointing out the problems with some of our immigrant population ?

The evil man for doing so, far more evil than those Muslim criminals ?

Inciting hatred against a group would be deemed a crime, I don’t believe he has been charged with that offence.

Edited by del mar on Wednesday 17th October 08:57

[stew-STR160]

Countdown said:

768 said:

I'm still slightly bemused, what's he actually done that's so evil it warrants this?

He's made a career out of inciting hatred against muslims. That makes him a pretty vile individual in my book. YMMV.

So, he's basically flipped the script...OK for them, not for 'us'.

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stew-STR160 said:

So, he's basically flipped the script...OK for them, not for 'us'.

Couple of questions - firstly have you got any examples of where it's been "ok for them"? By "ok" I mean them doing what the EDL/DFLA do and it not being roundly condemned by most people?

Secondly if you accept that it's pretty vile behaviour from "them" why does that make it any less vile when Tommy and his mates do it?

[southendpier]

Countdown said:

He's made a career out of inciting hatred against muslims. That makes him a pretty vile individual in my book. YMMV.

Which is a crime under the Racial and Religious Hatred Act 2006 . Has he been arrested and convicted of this crime (since he has made a career of it)?

[del mar]

del mar said:

Countdown said:

He's made a career out of inciting hatred against muslims. That makes him a pretty vile individual in my book. YMMV.

Or has a made a career of pointing out the problems with some of our immigrant population ?

The evil man for doing so, far more evil than those Muslim criminals ?

Inciting hatred against a group would be deemed a crime, I don’t believe he has been charged with that offence.

Edited by del mar on Wednesday 17th October 08:57

Choudray has crossed the line far more times than tr, and yet your sole contribution to that thread was to point out who rules a caliphate.

Is his level of evil less than tommy’s Because he doesn’t criticise Muslims ?

Or like Warsi said should we forgive him...

[JuanCarlosFandango]

768 said:

I'm still slightly bemused, what's he actually done that's so evil it warrants this?

That makes two of us.

[captain_cynic]

Countdown said:

768 said:

I'm still slightly bemused, what's he actually done that's so evil it warrants this?

He's made a career out of inciting hatred against muslims. That makes him a pretty vile individual in my book. YMMV.

When Peirs Morgan says someone is "stirring up hatred like a bigoted lunatic", you have to accept that they have to be a horrible, hate filled person.

Stephen Yaxley-Lennon was a founder of and controlled the EDL during their most destructive days and ostensibly, still does control it. That alone makes him pretty damn evil. The EDL didn't just incite racial violence, it committed many acts themselves ransacking bookshops and damaging Asian businesses (they didn't limit themselves to Muslims either, Hindus were also attacked). Remember, when your cause is noble, just and on the correct side of the law the first thing you need are ski masks and a pseudonym.

Honestly, I'm completely bemused that anyone can defend the EDL or Yaxley-Lennon.

He's not some hard done by political prisoner trying to get out a message from an oppressive regime... He's a violent, hate filled criminal who's received far too much special treatment from the courts because he's a political hot potato. Were I to see Mr Yaxley-Lennon on fire, I certainly wouldn't waste a drop of urine on him.

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southendpier said:

Countdown said:

He's made a career out of inciting hatred against muslims. That makes him a pretty vile individual in my book. YMMV.

Which is a crime under the Racial and Religious Hatred Act 2006 . Has he been arrested and convicted of this crime (since he has made a career of it)?

When you have people such as EDL/DFLA marching through predominantly muslim areas chanting obscenities about Islam, what do you consider that to be? Friendly banter?

[The Dangerous Elk]

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When you have people such as EDL/DFLA marching through predominantly muslim areas chanting obscenities about Islam, what do you consider that to be? Friendly banter?

Every action has a reaction.

[Pothole]

del mar said:

Whilst I haven’t read every one if Iforb’s posts he doesn’t appear to be have such strong feelings about murderers and child rapists.

It is almost as if pointing out failings / issues with our Muslim population is a far far worse crime than the rape and murder that they committed.

Really? But tarring everyone who professes to follow a faith with the same brush is fine by you?

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The Dangerous Elk said:

Every action has a reaction.

...which is what the gullible like to believe and the disingenuous like to pretend.

EDL/DFLA and their predecessors have a long history of this type of behaviour, going back to the 70's. They're the same racist s now as they were back then. The only difference being they can pretend their fighting for some "legitimate cause".

[del mar]

Countdown said:

When you have people such as EDL/DFLA marching through predominantly muslim areas chanting obscenities about Islam, what do you consider that to be? Friendly banter?

The law will judge whether it is a hate crime, to date they don’t feel it is.

And the religious texts calling for violence against non Muslims that is not a hate crime either ? Or is that people just misunderstanding the good word again

[del mar]

Pothole said:

Really? But tarring everyone who professes to follow a faith with the same brush is fine by you?

The words that have led to some Muslim crimes are all there in their religious texts.

Whether you follow them or not is up to the individual.

[The Dangerous Elk]

Countdown said:

...which is what the gullible like to believe and the disingenuous like to pretend.

EDL/DFLA and their predecessors have a long history of this type of behaviour, going back to the 70's. They're the same racist s now as they were back then. The only difference being they can pretend their fighting for some "legitimate cause".

Which is what the blinkered tell themselves as they walk past the "Dangerous Cliff" sign just out of sight to their left

[e30m3Mark]

del mar said:

Countdown said:

When you have people such as EDL/DFLA marching through predominantly muslim areas chanting obscenities about Islam, what do you consider that to be? Friendly banter?

The law will judge whether it is a hate crime, to date they don’t feel it is.

And the religious texts calling for violence against non Muslims that is not a hate crime either ? Or is that people just misunderstanding the good word again

Can I just ask your views on why so many victims (of the many atrocities carried out by Muslim extremists) are Muslim? Also, why would Muslims (like those on the beach in Tunisia) form a human shield to protect non Muslims despite their religious text? Do you think they did this whilst secretly willing the terrorists on because really this is what all Muslims want?

[AW111]

TTwiggy said:

Boydie88 said:

Christian countries aren't persecuting gays to my knowledge in the modern world.

Northern Ireland made a pretty good go of it, and they're still doing their best.

Also several African countries.

[Zod]

del mar said:

768 said:

IforB said:

If Yaxley-Lennon found himself drowned in a vat of rancid horse pee, then the only reaction I’d have would be a nod of acceptance and a mild smirk.

I'm still slightly bemused, what's he actually done that's so evil it warrants this?

Whilst I haven’t read every one if Iforb’s posts he doesn’t appear to be have such strong feelings about murderers and child rapists.

It is almost as if pointing out failings / issues with our Muslim population is a far far worse crime than the rape and murder that they committed.

Do you apply the same standards to whether rape of a child is rape as you do to adults?

[anonymous-user]

Choudary is worse than Robinson, however we’d actually measure that.

It’s interesting the ex-Met head of counter terrorism was interviewed about his release (whilst talking about new CT laws). He said they were often contacted by Muslims asking why nothing was being done about him.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-45881318?intlink_fro...