Tommy Robinson attacked at McDonald’s

[NoNeed]

Alpinestars said:

He’s persecuted but others are somehow being dealt with fairly. Do you ever take those st George blinkers off?

who have I said had been dealt with fairly? I am fairly certain I judge Tommy in exactly the same way I judge everybody

[NoNeed]

graylag said:

The EDL and Pegida are arguably on the cusp of being terrorists, they just stay on the legal side of things, but barely. However, I guess as they’re to the far right of politics you’re happy with that.

Is Tommy a member of those groups?

[Dindoit]

NoNeed said:

graylag said:

The EDL and Pegida are arguably on the cusp of being terrorists, they just stay on the legal side of things, but barely. However, I guess as they’re to the far right of politics you’re happy with that.

Is Tommy a member of those groups?

He founded EDL and Pegida UK

Pick a better argument please

[anonymous-user]

Does anyone here actually support Tommy, without caveat?

[e30m3Mark]

Dindoit said:

NoNeed said:

graylag said:

The EDL and Pegida are arguably on the cusp of being terrorists, they just stay on the legal side of things, but barely. However, I guess as they’re to the far right of politics you’re happy with that.

Is Tommy a member of those groups?

He founded EDL and Pegida UK

Pick a better argument please

Evidently he's had a change of heart since forming those groups and repeatedly stating he was ''EDL till he died''. Maybe it was just a phase?

[ReverendCounter]

e30m3Mark said:

Didn't he sucker punch an immigrant in Italy earlier this year after accusing him of touching his camera?

No, but if you don't listen to the death threats from the immigrant and ignore the lunging body language, and pretend he only wanted a chat rather than the multiple attempts to grab the camera equipment, then yes.

You can watch the unedited original video on youtube yourself - you might even find it on a pro immigrant channel listed something like 'TR sucker punches an immigrant in Italy'. That'd save you from increasing TRs viewing count and you wouldn't have to ask stupid questions.

[graylag]

ReverendCounter said:

No, but if you don't listen to the death threats from the immigrant and ignore the lunging body language, and pretend he only wanted a chat rather than the multiple attempts to grab the camera equipment, then yes.

You can watch the unedited original video on youtube yourself - you might even find it on a pro immigrant channel listed something like 'TR sucker punches an immigrant in Italy'. That'd save you from increasing TRs viewing count and you wouldn't have to ask stupid questions.

But he still punched the other person. Correct me if I’m wrong, but punching someone is a violent act.

[NoNeed]

Dindoit said:

NoNeed said:

graylag said:

The EDL and Pegida are arguably on the cusp of being terrorists, they just stay on the legal side of things, but barely. However, I guess as they’re to the far right of politics you’re happy with that.

Is Tommy a member of those groups?

He founded EDL and Pegida UK

Pick a better argument please

You have answered a different question to the one asked.

Is he a member of those groups?

[graylag]

NoNeed said:

Dindoit said:

NoNeed said:

graylag said:

The EDL and Pegida are arguably on the cusp of being terrorists, they just stay on the legal side of things, but barely. However, I guess as they’re to the far right of politics you’re happy with that.

Is Tommy a member of those groups?

He founded EDL and Pegida UK

Pick a better argument please

You have answered a different question to the one asked.

Is he a member of those groups?

Semantics. By founding both of the groups he is / was far more involved in them than someone who just used to be a member of them. It takes some real (I’m struggling for the words here) hatred / passion / venom to go to the lengths of forming a group solely around one issue.

You don’t get to walk away from the st that sticks when you’re a founder

[ben5575]

NoNeed said:

Dindoit said:

NoNeed said:

graylag said:

The EDL and Pegida are arguably on the cusp of being terrorists, they just stay on the legal side of things, but barely. However, I guess as they’re to the far right of politics you’re happy with that.

Is Tommy a member of those groups?

He founded EDL and Pegida UK

Pick a better argument please

You have answered a different question to the one asked.

Is he a member of those groups?

[ReverendCounter]

graylag said:

But he still punched the other person. Correct me if I’m wrong, but punching someone is a violent act.

Ah, so now the question is not 'didn't he sucker punch an immigrant' (answer = NO) but 'didn't he violently punch someone?' (answer = NO).

You have the option, of course, of putting a ridiculously biased slant on his right to self defence, which wouldn't stand up to scrutiny in court for instance. I recall from the video the police attended that incident and the immigrant was arrested.

Even though you know the immigrant was repeatedly targeting people with cameras, making death threats, and engaging in common assault, you're trying to portray the one lawfully acting in self defence as the violent one.

[The Dangerous Elk]

desolate said:

Does anyone here actually support Tommy, without caveat?

If you support another "without caveat" you are a cult member.

[Dindoit]

How do you not violently punch someone in the face?

This looks quite violent to me https://imgur.com/icCrCYd.gif

[anonymous-user]

The Dangerous Elk said:

If you support another "without caveat" you are a cult member.

No need to post as it didn't answer the question. So just leave it and allow people who are prepared to answer a simple question with a yes or a no.

It really was a simple question I asked.

[del mar]

desolate said:

Does anyone here actually support Tommy, without caveat?

I am not actually sure what he does.

He did not “break” the child grooming issue, that was done years before.

He does, perhaps in a crude manner, keep it in the public eye, and has no doubt made a wider audience aware of it. Young 23 year old at work knew nothing about it until I made reference to it.

[anonymous-user]

del mar said:

He does, perhaps in a crude manner, keep it in the public eye, and has no doubt made a wider audience aware of it. Young 23 year old at work knew nothing about it until I made reference to it.

You’re Tommy Robinson? Blimey!

[NoNeed]

graylag said:

NoNeed said:

Dindoit said:

NoNeed said:

graylag said:

The EDL and Pegida are arguably on the cusp of being terrorists, they just stay on the legal side of things, but barely. However, I guess as they’re to the far right of politics you’re happy with that.

Is Tommy a member of those groups?

He founded EDL and Pegida UK

Pick a better argument please

You have answered a different question to the one asked.

Is he a member of those groups?

Semantics. By founding both of the groups he is / was far more involved in them than someone who just used to be a member of them. It takes some real (I’m struggling for the words here) hatred / passion / venom to go to the lengths of forming a group solely around one issue.

You don’t get to walk away from the st that sticks when you’re a founder

so he didn't start the EDL to combat extremism and child grooming?


Did he leave these groups because they had attracted extreme right wing groups that he did not want to associate with?

We bot know he is no l9nger a member and his intentions when founding the groups may very well have been good

[The Dangerous Elk]

desolate said:

The Dangerous Elk said:

If you support another "without caveat" you are a cult member.

No need to post as it didn't answer the question. So just leave it and allow people who are prepared to answer a simple question with a yes or a no.

It really was a simple question I asked.

OK Mum

[FN2TypeR]

NoNeed said:

o he didn't start the EDL to combat extremism and child grooming?


Did he leave these groups because they had attracted extreme right wing groups that he did not want to associate with?

We bot know he is no l9nger a member and his intentions when founding the groups may very well have been good

fk me sideways

[Countdown]

FN2TypeR said:

NoNeed said:

o he didn't start the EDL to combat extremism and child grooming?


Did he leave these groups because they had attracted extreme right wing groups that he did not want to associate with?

We bot know he is no l9nger a member and his intentions when founding the groups may very well have been good

fk me sideways

Are you suggesting that a former BNP member founding a group which is a basically coalition of football hooligan gangs could have motives which weren't good? Tut, never have I seen such blatant cynicism on NP&E.

In response NoNeed's suggestion that Tommy left the EDL because he didn't want to associate with extreme right wing groups......Tommy used to be in the BNP, he was/is a leading light in both the EDL and PEGIDA UK. Anybody thinking Tommy doesn't like the far right is naive at best.