Brits forced with new Visa rules for crossing the channel
Discussion
Tryke3 said:
I think you and "many" here dont really understand what the tax is for, you think bs eu wants to charge us out of spite or something.
Tax is mainly to cover a more thorough background check on who is entering the eu, believe this is what nigel and the brexiteers wanted all along for Britain and it looks like open borders Britain and better checks for eu countries
ALSO, VERY IMPORTANT THIS IS NOT 1975. Things have changed a bit since then
I don't think any of the things you think I think.Tax is mainly to cover a more thorough background check on who is entering the eu, believe this is what nigel and the brexiteers wanted all along for Britain and it looks like open borders Britain and better checks for eu countries
ALSO, VERY IMPORTANT THIS IS NOT 1975. Things have changed a bit since then
I don't think this has anything to do with Brexit, other than it may be a new tax to mitigate the Brexit budget short-fall. The EU has no way to increase spending on border control until that internal deadlock has been resolved, but I don't think it's any more than that.
What I said was that, and I can see you need these things spelling out, IF it were brought up in negotiations as a new barrier that could be dropped if we did something in exchange, we should just reciprocate for the EU only, rather than making a concession. That's because under those circumstances it would be a false negotiating position, not because I don't think the EU are free to have whatever policies they want, no matter what I think of the principle.
If the EU didn't make an issue of it in negotiations then I wouldn't want us to reciprocate at all because it is nigardly chiselling, visitors pay us enough money when they come for us to be able to afford to check that they're not d
heads. Tourists (and traders too) are doing the host country a favour, not the other way around.Your explanation doesn't stand up to scrutiny at all, regardless of your will full misrepresentation of my thoughts on this. If that were the purpose the proposal would apply to a narrower group of countries, such as only countries that don't have visa-free travel.
It's absolute nonsense to say to any country, you don't need a visa to travel to us, but we do need to do detailed background checks. That's what a visa is. What if the check fails? You can still come in because you don't need a visa and you've paid your £6 or what?
jjlynn27 said:
You always hit the mark, mark being 'I'm going to post something really dumb'. It's hardly a secret.
Did you go back through the many pages of another thread to retrieve that quote of mine or is it in your "quotes to post to show someone who makes a valid post is really dumb" folder? 
Vanden Saab said:
jjlynn27 said:
You always hit the mark, mark being 'I'm going to post something really dumb'. It's hardly a secret.
Did you go back through the many pages of another thread to retrieve that quote of mine or is it in your "quotes to post to show someone who makes a valid post is really dumb" folder? 
NDA said:
£6 for a visa sounds about right.
Can't see what the fuss is about.
It can't be a payment for security checks on the individual as if you failed those checks you'd still be able to enter if you've paid your money and are from a country with visa-free travel.
It's just a grubby money-grab as no one wants to pay more in after Brexit.
PurpleMoonlight said:
DanL said:
It's £6. Who cares? ESTA is $14, so this is something of a bargain.
ESTA is $14, so this is something of a bargain. For those that can't use the ESTA the cost is significantly more.
Maybe, the EU one will be the same.
The vast majority of people from the UK can use an ESTA. I’m sure the same will apply for this. For clarity - I voted remain. But, what’s done is done, and if this is the worst thing to come out of Brexit then I’ll be overjoyed!
Vanden Saab said:
Lets hope all these people paid for their "more thorough background check" eh...
How many illegal entries were in britain, which has no borders and as far a immigrant is concerned is im the middle of nowehere? Edited by Vanden Saab on Thursday 26th April 23:21
You brexiteers are full of s
tpaulrockliffe said:
I don't think any of the things you think I think.
I don't think this has anything to do with Brexit, other than it may be a new tax to mitigate the Brexit budget short-fall. The EU has no way to increase spending on border control until that internal deadlock has been resolved, but I don't think it's any more than that.
What I said was that, and I can see you need these things spelling out, IF it were brought up in negotiations as a new barrier that could be dropped if we did something in exchange, we should just reciprocate for the EU only, rather than making a concession. That's because under those circumstances it would be a false negotiating position, not because I don't think the EU are free to have whatever policies they want, no matter what I think of the principle.
If the EU didn't make an issue of it in negotiations then I wouldn't want us to reciprocate at all because it is nigardly chiselling, visitors pay us enough money when they come for us to be able to afford to check that they're not dheads. Tourists (and traders too) are doing the host country a favour, not the other way around.
Your explanation doesn't stand up to scrutiny at all, regardless of your will full misrepresentation of my thoughts on this. If that were the purpose the proposal would apply to a narrower group of countries, such as only countries that don't have visa-free travel.
It's absolute nonsense to say to any country, you don't need a visa to travel to us, but we do need to do detailed background checks. That's what a visa is. What if the check fails? You can still come in because you don't need a visa and you've paid your £6 or what?
Omg, why are you allowed to pist sI don't think this has anything to do with Brexit, other than it may be a new tax to mitigate the Brexit budget short-fall. The EU has no way to increase spending on border control until that internal deadlock has been resolved, but I don't think it's any more than that.
What I said was that, and I can see you need these things spelling out, IF it were brought up in negotiations as a new barrier that could be dropped if we did something in exchange, we should just reciprocate for the EU only, rather than making a concession. That's because under those circumstances it would be a false negotiating position, not because I don't think the EU are free to have whatever policies they want, no matter what I think of the principle.
If the EU didn't make an issue of it in negotiations then I wouldn't want us to reciprocate at all because it is nigardly chiselling, visitors pay us enough money when they come for us to be able to afford to check that they're not d
heads. Tourists (and traders too) are doing the host country a favour, not the other way around.Your explanation doesn't stand up to scrutiny at all, regardless of your will full misrepresentation of my thoughts on this. If that were the purpose the proposal would apply to a narrower group of countries, such as only countries that don't have visa-free travel.
It's absolute nonsense to say to any country, you don't need a visa to travel to us, but we do need to do detailed background checks. That's what a visa is. What if the check fails? You can still come in because you don't need a visa and you've paid your £6 or what?
t on the internet, does your mum know what you up to late at night ? Try porn instead, oh wait even for that you will need to "pay" a fee so you can access itTrolleys Thank You said:
Robertj21a said:
Trolleys Thank You said:
I thought we were assured this wasn't going to happen if we voted out?
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/brits-could-...
Blimey, is that all - excellent value. Must be one of the cheapest around.https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/brits-could-...
Ho hum.
Tryke3 said:
Omg, why are you allowed to pist st on the internet, does your mum know what you up to late at night ? Try porn instead, oh wait even for that you will need to "pay" a fee so you can access it
How many illegal entries were in britain, which has no borders and as far a immigrant is concerned is im the middle of nowehere?
You brexiteers are full of s
tTryke3 said:
How many illegal entries were in britain, which has no borders and as far a immigrant is concerned is im the middle of nowehere?
You brexiteers are full of st
That's either a whopping great strawman, or your comprehension is piss poor.You brexiteers are full of s
tVanden Saab said:
Tryke3 said:
I think you and "many" here dont really understand what the tax is for, you think bs eu wants to charge us out of spite or something.
Tax is mainly to cover a more thorough background check on who is entering the eu, believe this is what nigel and the brexiteers wanted all along for Britain and it looks like open borders Britain and better checks for eu countries
ALSO, VERY IMPORTANT THIS IS NOT 1975. Things have changed a bit since then
Tax is mainly to cover a more thorough background check on who is entering the eu, believe this is what nigel and the brexiteers wanted all along for Britain and it looks like open borders Britain and better checks for eu countries
ALSO, VERY IMPORTANT THIS IS NOT 1975. Things have changed a bit since then
eu website says said:
Frontex, the EU border surveillance agency, collects data on illegal crossings of the EU's external borders registered by national authorities. In 2015 and 2016, more than 2.3 million illegal crossings were detected.
Lets hope all these people paid for their "more thorough background check" eh...Edited by Vanden Saab on Thursday 26th April 23:21
Tryke3 said:
Vanden Saab said:
Lets hope all these people paid for their "more thorough background check" eh...
How many illegal entries were in britain, which has no borders and as far a immigrant is concerned is im the middle of nowehere? Edited by Vanden Saab on Thursday 26th April 23:21
You brexiteers are full of s
tVanden Saab said:
Did you go back through the many pages of another thread to retrieve that quote of mine or is it in your "quotes to post to show someone who makes a valid post is really dumb" folder?
Once again, unsurprisingly, you are missing the point. All your posts are widget post. That one is just the most representative. All your posts are as 'valid' as that one. I could tell you that there is a reason for you not getting that, but then it would be just a repeat. 
DurianIceCream said:
It may be £6 or EUR5 or whatever it is, but it is still £6 more than it costs now and an additional administrative burden which there isn't now.
If you can't afford basically what is a pint of beer and fill in a bit of paperwork then I'd suggest that you best stay at home.Gassing Station | News, Politics & Economics | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff