Brits forced with new Visa rules for crossing the channel

Brits forced with new Visa rules for crossing the channel

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Rude-boy

22,227 posts

233 months

Thursday 26th April 2018
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TheFlyingBanana said:
Lots of things were "promised" - and all of them were lies or have been shown to be political garbage.
Including that we would be bankrupt within months of voting out...

alfie2244

11,292 posts

188 months

Thursday 26th April 2018
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Rude-boy said:
TheFlyingBanana said:
Lots of things were "promised" - and all of them were lies or have been shown to be political garbage.
Including that we would be bankrupt within months of voting out...
Ain't selective memories grand wink

Timmy40

12,915 posts

198 months

Thursday 26th April 2018
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alfie2244 said:
EU's loss could be Wales' gain now they've renamed the bridge and toll charges are soon to be abolished biggrin
Don't worry the Welsh Nationalists are already planning to dynamite the bridge to prevent a tide of English moving into Wales and raping our sheep.

amusingduck

9,396 posts

136 months

Thursday 26th April 2018
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The Selfish Gene said:
what were the %s for reasons to leave? Would like to see that genuinely.......
Ashcroft Poll said:
Nearly half (49%) of leave voters said the biggest single reason for wanting to leave the EU was “the principle that decisions about the UK should be taken in the UK”. One third (33%) said the main reason was that leaving “offered the best chance for the UK to regain control over immigration and its own borders.” Just over one in eight (13%) said remaining would mean having no choice “about how the EU expanded its membership or its powers in the years ahead.” Only just over one in twenty (6%) said their main reason was that “when it comes to trade and the economy, the UK would benefit more from being outside the EU than from being part of it.”

For remain voters, the single most important reason for their decision was that “the risks of voting to leave the EU looked too great when it came to things like the economy, jobs and prices” (43%). Just over three in ten (31%) reasoned that remaining would mean the UK having “the best of both worlds”, having access to the EU single market without Schengen or the euro. Just under one in five (17%) said their main reason was that the UK would “become more isolated from its friends and neighbours”, and fewer than one in ten (9%) said it was “a strong attachment to the EU and its shared history, culture and traditions.”

Rude-boy

22,227 posts

233 months

Thursday 26th April 2018
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don'tbesilly said:
Seeing as the recession to match the GFC of 2008 didn't happen in QTR 3 of 2016, I'm sure the proposed cost of the Visa which equates to little more than £2.00 pa, and for as many visits to EU countries as you like over the three year lifespan of the proposed ETIAS, it won't cause to much financial hardship.
My City tax on the hotel i had in Germany for 3 niights last year was more than that.

The Selfish Gene

5,498 posts

210 months

Thursday 26th April 2018
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thanks Amusingduck for indulging my google laziness.

interesting and not that suprising

Trolleys Thank You

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872 posts

81 months

Thursday 26th April 2018
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don'tbesilly said:
Seeing as the recession to match the GFC of 2008 didn't happen in QTR 3 of 2016, I'm sure the proposed cost of the Visa which equates to little more than £2.00 pa, and for as many visits to EU countries as you like over the three year lifespan of the proposed ETIAS, it won't cause to much financial hardship.
The application and fee is for every visit to the EU. Will be a massive PITA for those who have to cross the channel at least semi regularly.

alfie2244

11,292 posts

188 months

Thursday 26th April 2018
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Rude-boy said:
don'tbesilly said:
Seeing as the recession to match the GFC of 2008 didn't happen in QTR 3 of 2016, I'm sure the proposed cost of the Visa which equates to little more than £2.00 pa, and for as many visits to EU countries as you like over the three year lifespan of the proposed ETIAS, it won't cause to much financial hardship.
My City tax on the hotel i had in Germany for 3 niights last year was more than that.
Bath are trying to get permission to levy a tourist tax and IIRC so are Birmingham in time for the next Commonwealth games.

gooner1

10,223 posts

179 months

Thursday 26th April 2018
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Trolleys Thank You said:
The application and fee is for every visit to the EU. Will be a massive PITA for those who have to cross the channel at least semi regularly.
Blame those that impose it.

Sheepshanks

32,747 posts

119 months

Thursday 26th April 2018
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alfie2244 said:
Rude-boy said:
don'tbesilly said:
Seeing as the recession to match the GFC of 2008 didn't happen in QTR 3 of 2016, I'm sure the proposed cost of the Visa which equates to little more than £2.00 pa, and for as many visits to EU countries as you like over the three year lifespan of the proposed ETIAS, it won't cause to much financial hardship.
My City tax on the hotel i had in Germany for 3 niights last year was more than that.
Bath are trying to get permission to levy a tourist tax and IIRC so are Birmingham in time for the next Commonwealth games.
...and Liverpool.

Trolleys Thank You

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872 posts

81 months

Thursday 26th April 2018
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gooner1 said:
Trolleys Thank You said:
The application and fee is for every visit to the EU. Will be a massive PITA for those who have to cross the channel at least semi regularly.
Blame those that impose it.
Good point. Wouldn't need this if we were still members would we?

Timmy40

12,915 posts

198 months

Thursday 26th April 2018
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Sheepshanks said:
alfie2244 said:
Rude-boy said:
don'tbesilly said:
Seeing as the recession to match the GFC of 2008 didn't happen in QTR 3 of 2016, I'm sure the proposed cost of the Visa which equates to little more than £2.00 pa, and for as many visits to EU countries as you like over the three year lifespan of the proposed ETIAS, it won't cause to much financial hardship.
My City tax on the hotel i had in Germany for 3 niights last year was more than that.
Bath are trying to get permission to levy a tourist tax and IIRC so are Birmingham in time for the next Commonwealth games.
...and Liverpool.
Will it be collected by stealing one wheel off every car entering the City?

alfie2244

11,292 posts

188 months

Thursday 26th April 2018
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Trolleys Thank You said:
gooner1 said:
Trolleys Thank You said:
The application and fee is for every visit to the EU. Will be a massive PITA for those who have to cross the channel at least semi regularly.
Blame those that impose it.
Good point. Wouldn't need this if we were still members would we?
As a matter of interest...any idea on figures / numbers on UK / EU 2 way travel?

captain_cynic

11,977 posts

95 months

Thursday 26th April 2018
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Trolleys Thank You said:
I thought we were assured this wasn't going to happen if we voted out?

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/brits-could-...
As much as Brexit was a huge mistake... This has been talked about in the EU for a long time, it's a "security" charge for all non EU visitors, so Americans and Australians also have to pay it.

gooner1

10,223 posts

179 months

Thursday 26th April 2018
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Trolleys Thank You said:
Good point. Wouldn't need this if we were still members would we?
Is it needed now, or do some just want it ?

Frank7

6,619 posts

87 months

Thursday 26th April 2018
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I am entitled to French citizenship, but I never bothered, as I couldn’t stand the hassle, plus, up until around the late nineties, military conscription was mandatory in France, and I didn’t fancy an all expenses paid trip to the Central African Republic, or anywhere else that M. Le Président decided needed a French kicking.
When the EU was formed, I could go anywhere with my U.K. passport anyway, so why get another one.
This £6 is a mere bagatelle, IF you only go to Europe once per year, but as I’m over there four of five times per year, (one of my kids lives in Germany), I may look into dual citizenship.
My kid in Germany will have a decision to make, at the moment he has dual nationality of U.K. and Australia, so if he comes to U.K., he may have to pay £6 to get back home to Germany.
If he adopts German nationality, as he’s entitled to, he’ll have to give up both his U.K. and Aussie citizenship, as Germany only allows dual nationality with other EU states.
He’s often said that he’d have no qualms about giving up U.K. citizenship, as he wouldn’t come back here to live if he was paid to, but I know that he values his Aussie passport.

Trolleys Thank You

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872 posts

81 months

Thursday 26th April 2018
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gooner1 said:
Trolleys Thank You said:
Good point. Wouldn't need this if we were still members would we?
Is it needed now, or do some just want it ?
Seeing as the country is still doing relatively well whilst EU members, I'd argue Brexit isn't needed at all.

don'tbesilly

13,931 posts

163 months

Thursday 26th April 2018
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Trolleys Thank You said:
don'tbesilly said:
Seeing as the recession to match the GFC of 2008 didn't happen in QTR 3 of 2016, I'm sure the proposed cost of the Visa which equates to little more than £2.00 pa, and for as many visits to EU countries as you like over the three year lifespan of the proposed ETIAS, it won't cause to much financial hardship.
The application and fee is for every visit to the EU. Will be a massive PITA for those who have to cross the channel at least semi regularly.
The granted (if it is) Visa lasts three years, why would you need to make a new application and pay a fee to do so if a new visit was within the three year period?

You seem to be suggesting that if you apply for an ETIAS in June 2020 for a trip to Berlin, and pay the 7 Euros for an ETIAS that lasts until May 2023, that should you want to go to Paris in Sept 2020, you have to renew an ETIAS that despite it still being valid, you need to renew it by paying another 7 Euros.

Can you provide the source for this information?

liner33

10,690 posts

202 months

Thursday 26th April 2018
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Well if its going to cost me £6 I'm out !

Oh yeah its just cost me just shy of £95 to renew my passport for 6 years

Couldn't care less about having to pay a £6 fee , the French are enough to stop me visiting France but I'll pay the fee to have a beery week in Belgium

Smiler.

11,752 posts

230 months

Thursday 26th April 2018
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OP attempting late night crossing: