More Slaughter At The Israel Border

[jjlynn27]

Solocle said:

jjlynn27 said:

Where is the data from? I'll take a wild guess given it was your post; foxnews, infowars, elderofziyon or breitbart.

Are you saying that those were 'discriminate' killings?

As it happens, those graphs are from elderofziyon.

So predictable. You are taking the sport out of mocking your predictability. 'Edlerofziyon' puts word indiscriminate in quotation marks for dramatic effect, guess what numpty does on PH with the same word.

Do you just go there to get your opinions on everything?

[irocfan]

jjlynn27 said:

garbage said:

You're right - it's all Israel's fault, they should be wiped out. Muppet

Don't start that with 'you're right', as I'm not you. I never said that it's all Israel's fault. On the contrary. I most certainly didn't say that anyone should be wiped out.

This is you;

garbage said:

I'll see your 300 children and raise you (yes I know it's tasteless)...

talking about 300+ dead children. Everything that anyone needs to know about you is in that line, right there.

oh dear LORD you are a whiney, virtue signalling, little bh. You're waving around 300 children dead as some sort of Top Trumps card and you expect people not to react in an equally assinine way? You are certainly correct that you are not me - one thing we both agree on, and something for which I give thanks. If I had to put up with your level of smug self-righteousness I'd jump into the nearest woodchipper.

[jjlynn27]

garbage said:

oh dear LORD you are a whiney, virtue signalling, little bh. You're waving around 300 children dead as some sort of Top Trumps card and you expect people not to react in an equally assinine way? You are certainly correct that you are not me - one thing we both agree on, and something for which I give thanks. If I had to put up with your level of smug self-righteousness I'd jump into the nearest woodchipper.

Do what you have to do. I'm not waving anything. You have to be a garbage, Kafkian trash in order to type something like that. It's just who you are.

Don't misrepresent things by starting with 'You are right'.

As for your little angry low-brow rants; mildly amusing, even if utterly predictable.

[jjlynn27]

Burwood said:

your article is from 2011. They are illegal as of 2013. That is not to say they don't exist. There is no legal 'forced' segregation. If woman choose to segregate themselves that's their choice.

Edited by Burwood on Tuesday 22 May 17:02

They are illegal but they still exist? How is that even possible? It's not exactly something that you can hide, is it? As for women choosing to segregate themselves, given that all this started with Biker 1 laughing at women's rights in islamic world, I don't see any difference whatsoever.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/haredi-city-council-...

[Solocle]

jjlynn27 said:

So predictable. You are taking the sport out of mocking your predictability. 'Edlerofziyon' puts word indiscriminate in quotation marks for dramatic effect, guess what numpty does on PH with the same word.

Do you just go there to get your opinions on everything?

Wow, so naturally disagreeing with a word (hence "quoting" it) means I naturally follow an outlet on everything? Where are you studying, Kidnergarten? Can't face the cold hard facts that "indiscriminate" is plainly false? Start resorting to straw men! (Actually, I think jjlynn27's medium isn't straw, it's "Play Doh").

[Solocle]

jjlynn27 said:

They are illegal but they still exist? How is that even possible? It's not exactly something that you can hide, is it? As for women choosing to segregate themselves, given that all this started with Biker 1 laughing at women's rights in islamic world, I don't see any difference whatsoever.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/haredi-city-council-...

"They are illegal but they still exist? How is that even possible?". So somehow, speeding magically disappears, because it's illegal? What about in the US, after racism was officially illegal (federally), the Southern States passed Jim Crow laws ("seperate but equal"). Seriously, I struggle to understand the world the jjlynn27 is living in.

[Dindoit]

Finlandia said:

AW111 said:

I assume Israel would keep on expanding the settlements and carving up Palestinian farms while we wait for that long term solution...

Aren't the settlements on already Israeli controlled land, land that was won in the six-day war in 1967?

Israel says yes. The majority of the rest of the world, including the UN, says no.

A tenth of the population lives outside Israel’s recognised borders.

[jjlynn27]

Solocle said:

Wow, so naturally disagreeing with a word (hence "quoting" it) means I naturally follow an outlet on everything? Where are you studying, Kidnergarten? Can't face the cold hard facts that "indiscriminate" is plainly false? Start resorting to straw men! (Actually, I think jjlynn27's medium isn't straw, it's "Play Doh").

It was a highlight of your predictability. But it was very expected, as demonstrated, that someone like you would have one of those sites as a bible. Do you not find it funny that I could narrow your source to one of four websites?

What is Kidnergarten (sic)?

I don't think that I ever used 'indiscriminate' to describe IDF actions. Based on available evidence, IDF doesn't care about 'collateral damage'. After every rampage, IDF spokesperson 'IDF doesn't target civilians'.

[jjlynn27]

Solocle said:

"They are illegal but they still exist? How is that even possible?". So somehow, speeding magically disappears, because it's illegal? What about in the US, after racism was officially illegal (federally), the Southern States passed Jim Crow laws ("seperate but equal"). Seriously, I struggle to understand the world the jjlynn27 is living in.

You "think" that segregated buses are analogous to speeding? As for the rest of whataboutery; yawn.
If I'm ever interested in your opinion on anything, I'll just go to elderofz. Cut the middleman, save time.

[Solocle]

jjlynn27 said:

It was a highlight of your predictability. But it was very expected, as demonstrated, that someone like you would have one of those sites as a bible. Do you not find it funny that I could narrow your source to one of four websites?

What is Kidnergarten (sic)?

I don't think that I ever used 'indiscriminate' to describe IDF actions. Based on available evidence, IDF doesn't care about 'collateral damage'. After every rampage, IDF spokesperson 'IDF doesn't target civilians'.

Wow, so the fact that a source provided a (very handy) graph that's been saved on my hard drive for four years makes it a "staple"? What about the fact that I independently verified that graph? What does that tell you, other than I thought the graph to be too good to be true (but it wasn't)? Seriously, you don't seem to be able to make a rational argument. Of course the IDF care about collateral damage. So do Hamas. (They care to make as much as possible).

[Solocle]

jjlynn27 said:

You "think" that segregated buses are analogous to speeding? As for the rest of whataboutery; yawn.
If I'm ever interested in your opinion on anything, I'll just go to elderofz. Cut the middleman, save time.

No, I was just expressing incredulity at your naivety through an easily accessible example that was along the lines of "its illegal, but there's nothing wrong with this" - because those communities truly believe that. Although, I have to say, I shouldn't be surprised at your naivety as it seems to be beyond you to grasp that innocent people die in wars, no matter what efforts taken to save their lives.

[Finlandia]

Dindoit said:

Finlandia said:

AW111 said:

I assume Israel would keep on expanding the settlements and carving up Palestinian farms while we wait for that long term solution...

Aren't the settlements on already Israeli controlled land, land that was won in the six-day war in 1967?

Israel says yes. The majority of the rest of the world, including the UN, says no.

A tenth of the population lives outside Israel’s recognised borders.

In a war the winner gets to set the borders, that's how it's always been, no matter who opposes to it.

As I said, the best way forward is to stop the killings by stopping the attacks, after that a long term peace can be negotiated with give and take from both parts.

[Solocle]

Finlandia said:

In a war the winner gets to set the borders, that's how it's always been, no matter who opposes to it.

As I said, the best way forward is to stop the killings by stopping the attacks, after that a long term peace can be negotiated with give and take from both parts.

Unfortunately, the Palestinian Authority has no incentive to make peace. They're quite happy milking the international aid sent to them for their presidential palaces. If a peace deal happens, that money dries up. As for Hamas, well, Hamas will be Hamas.

[jjlynn27]

Solocle said:

Wow, so the fact that a source provided a (very handy) graph that's been saved on my hard drive for four years makes it a "staple"? What about the fact that I independently verified that graph? What does that tell you, other than I thought the graph to be too good to be true (but it wasn't)? Seriously, you don't seem to be able to make a rational argument. Of course the IDF care about collateral damage. So do Hamas. (They care to make as much as possible).

So nothing on Kidnergarten (sic)?

You keep graphs like that saved on your hard drive, what, just in case? Totally normal. As for your verification, that has the same value as elder's graph, pretty much close to zero.

To you use of white phosphorus is care about collateral damage? When I type "to you" it's a shorthand for "what elderofz says about it".

You can read what UNFFM and UNESCO have to say about IDF actions, or you can get your news from the stash on your hard drive.

[Solocle]

jjlynn27 said:

So nothing on Kidnergarten (sic)?

You keep graphs like that saved on your hard drive, what, just in case? Totally normal. As for your verification, that has the same value as elder's graph, pretty much close to zero.

To you use of white phosphorus is care about collateral damage? When I type "to you" it's a shorthand for "what elderofz says about it".

You can read what UNFFM and UNESCO have to say about IDF actions, or you can get your news from the stash on your hard drive.

The UN is dominated by Arab countries - I have no time for UNESCO, who regularly call Jewish sites Palestinian. The graph is on my hard drive because it was so striking, I saved it. It's buried with a lot of stuff, and took a bit of time to find. But I found it. One thing to know about me is I'm not good at cleaning out my hard drive. Seriously? Are you challenging my mathematical abilities, or the source of the data? (Oxford Mathematics student & Hamas themselves via Al Jazeera respectively).

As for "Kidnergarten", I make typos sometimes. So what? This isn't an English exam. I don't study English. I don't use Google Chrome. You pick up on a typo because you can't actually contradict the central thrust of my argument.

I will be quite clear. I have no news source that I stick to. I seek the facts. Generally, for domestic afffairs, the BBC, or the Telegraph. However, the BBC, in common with much of the international media, is woefully biased in their coverage of Israel. They even translate the Arabic word "Yahud", Jew, as Israeli.

Edited by Solocle on Tuesday 22 May 20:16

[TwigtheWonderkid]

jonby said:

the really observant jews are regarded as crackpots by most jews, particularly by most Israeli jews

There's a real hatred of ultra orthodox Jews by mainstream Israeli Jews. They don't do military service, yet expect others to die fighting for Israel, they send their kids to Yashivas (religious schools) where they don't actually learn anything useful, so make zero contribution to society, they are intolerant, rude and genuinely believe they are special and the rest of the population owes them a living.

Most Israeli Jews think they are scum. They are like our gypsies. It's the 99% of rotten ones that give the rest a bad name.

[Solocle]

TwigtheWonderkid said:

There's a real hatred of ultra orthodox Jews by mainstream Israeli Jews. They don't do military service, yet expect others to die fighting for Israel, they send their kids to Yashivas (religious schools) where they don't actually learn anything useful, so make zero contribution to society, they are intolerant, rude and genuinely believe they are special and the rest of the population owes them a living.

Most Israeli Jews think they are scum. They are like our gypsies. It's the 99% of rotten ones that give the rest a bad name.

And yet, Chabad are ultra-orthodox, but also welcoming. I don't know how it is in Israel, but they seem to essentially be the reform Jews of the ultra-orthodox world.

[Burwood]

Solocle said:

jjlynn27 said:

They are illegal but they still exist? How is that even possible? It's not exactly something that you can hide, is it? As for women choosing to segregate themselves, given that all this started with Biker 1 laughing at women's rights in islamic world, I don't see any difference whatsoever.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/haredi-city-council-...

"They are illegal but they still exist? How is that even possible?". So somehow, speeding magically disappears, because it's illegal? What about in the US, after racism was officially illegal (federally), the Southern States passed Jim Crow laws ("seperate but equal"). Seriously, I struggle to understand the world the jjlynn27 is living in.

It’s hard for some to understand. Rape is illegal in India. I don’t need to provide links. Do we have acceptance that the State does not support it

[jjlynn27]

Solocle said:

The UN is dominated by Arab countries

Ok.

[Solocle]

jjlynn27 said:

Solocle said:

The UN is dominated by Arab countries

Ok.

22 Arab countries. 1 Israel. Furthermore, there is the Soviet-bloc of old that still adopts a Soviet-era semi-automatic stance against Israel, which evolved due to the Cold War. The UN "Human Rights Council" has delightful members like Saudi Arabia, Qatar and the Democratic republic of the Congo.