Gammon?

[Ayahuasca]

EddieSteadyGo said:

Ayahuasca said:

I completely got the point thanks. He called them Ragheads. You called them Arabs. You are both wrong. Him for being insulting, you for believing that every cloth headdress-wearing person must be an Arab.

Can an Arab be gammon?

Doh - you didn't get the point. I wasn't calling anyone Arabs. It was a "joke" which involved him using both terms. I think you are just trying to be obtuse - haven't you got something better to do?

By the way, you do realise that admitting you were trying to be a smart-arse, doesn't actually make you smart?

Haven't you got a wheat field to run through or something?

[Gloria Slap]

alfie2244 said:

Gloria Slap said:

Posters pretending they always call it out? Don't believe that for a second!

FYI we are not all two faced hypocrites like you.

I was going to leave it vague, but given the ad hom lets unwrap this a bit.

So you're saying that you challenge racist remarks each and everytime you come across them without fail?

Is that what you'd have us all believe?

This comes across as rather obviously fake alfie, and I'm sorry to read it to be frank.

[alfie2244]

Gloria Slap said:

I was going to leave it vague, but given the ad hom lets unwrap this a bit.

So you're saying that you challenge racist remarks each and everytime you come across them without fail?

Is that what you'd have us all believe?

This comes across as rather obviously fake alfie, and I'm sorry to read it to be frank.

Yes I 100% would and have gloria....don't judge others by your own standards.

[Gloria Slap]

alfie2244 said:

Gloria Slap said:

I was going to leave it vague, but given the ad hom lets unwrap this a bit.

So you're saying that you challenge racist remarks each and everytime you come across them without fail?

Is that what you'd have us all believe?

This comes across as rather obviously fake alfie, and I'm sorry to read it to be frank.

Yes I 100% would and have gloria....don't judge others by your own standards.

Readers will have to judge whether your 100% track record sounds authentic.

Can you describe the exact context and exchange of words the last time it happened?

[alfie2244]

Gloria Slap said:

alfie2244 said:

Gloria Slap said:

I was going to leave it vague, but given the ad hom lets unwrap this a bit.

So you're saying that you challenge racist remarks each and everytime you come across them without fail?

Is that what you'd have us all believe?

This comes across as rather obviously fake alfie, and I'm sorry to read it to be frank.

Yes I 100% would and have gloria....don't judge others by your own standards.

Readers will have to judge whether your 100% track record sounds authentic.

Can you describe the exact context and exchange of words the last time it happened?

I don't give a flying fk what you or others think and have no intention of giving you examples........ Principles can often be very costly in various ways but I am comfortable in my own skin....if your story about your old lady, racist, friend is true then you should be thoroughly ashamed of yourself.......what was that poem by Pastor Martin Niemoller?

1st they came for.................

https://hmd.org.uk/sites/default/files/HMD_files/f...

[EddieSteadyGo]

Ayahuasca said:

Haven't you got a wheat field to run through or something?

TBH I'm not sure if you want to make this into a "Sidicks vs JJ" game of table tennis where we trade pointless barbs for several pages. I do understand the original comment you were making - as you can probably guess, I didn't think it was fair for the reasons I have said. And hopefully we can agree, if there was any ambiguity in the original post, I have now clarified it.

[Gloria Slap]

alfie2244 said:

Gloria Slap said:

alfie2244 said:

Gloria Slap said:

I was going to leave it vague, but given the ad hom lets unwrap this a bit.

So you're saying that you challenge racist remarks each and everytime you come across them without fail?

Is that what you'd have us all believe?

This comes across as rather obviously fake alfie, and I'm sorry to read it to be frank.

Yes I 100% would and have gloria....don't judge others by your own standards.

Readers will have to judge whether your 100% track record sounds authentic.

Can you describe the exact context and exchange of words the last time it happened?

I don't give a flying fk what you or others think and have no intention of giving you examples........ Principles can often be very costly in various ways but I am comfortable in my own skin....if your story about your old lady, racist, friend is true then you should be thoroughly ashamed of yourself.......what was that poem by Pastor Martin Niemoller?

1st they came for.................

https://hmd.org.uk/sites/default/files/HMD_files/f...

Didn't think so. Carry on.

[alfie2244]

Gloria Slap said:

Didn't think so. Carry on.

Didn't think what?

[TTwiggy]

alfie2244 said:

Gloria Slap said:

Didn't think so. Carry on.

Didn't think what?

It seems pretty obvious to a bystander that if you claim to always call out any and every example of racism you would be able to give a recent case of you doing so, with details.

If I were to claim that I always put others before myself, for example, I should be able to provide an anecdote of me doing so.

[alfie2244]

TTwiggy said:

alfie2244 said:

Gloria Slap said:

Didn't think so. Carry on.

Didn't think what?

It seems pretty obvious to a bystander that if you claim to always call out any and every example of racism you would be able to give a recent case of you doing so, with details.

If I were to claim that I always put others before myself, for example, I should be able to provide an anecdote of me doing so.

Why should I? I am lying?... I didn't say I am not able to......I said I won't.......Don't believe me if you wish... I really don't feel the need to prove myself to you, slasher on anyone else.............slasher has, by his / her own admission, racist friends and doesn't challenge them when they openly express this yet you and he / she challenge me on my posts because I say I do and always will

eta IIRC personal anecdotes carry no weight on here anyway.

Edited by alfie2244 on Thursday 24th May 23:41

[EddieSteadyGo]

gooner1 said:

Valour is the better part of discretion, as Shakespear put it.

Isn't that proverb supposed to be the other way around? i.e. it's better to avoid a risky situation than to confront it. Plus I don't think Shakespeare was saying it in a morally good way.

[gooner1]

EddieSteadyGo said:

Isn't that proverb supposed to be the other way around? i.e. it's better to avoid a risky situation than to confront it. Plus I don't think Shakespeare was saying it in a morally good way.

Correct, I was just trying to anticipate the smart arses insisting on the Shaksespear/e
quotation, if I had posted it in it's usual format. Never could rely on Falstaff.

[EddieSteadyGo]

gooner1 said:

EddieSteadyGo said:

Isn't that proverb supposed to be the other way around? i.e. it's better to avoid a risky situation than to confront it. Plus I don't think Shakespeare was saying it in a morally good way.

Correct, I was just trying to anticipate the smart arises insisting on the Shaksespear/e
quotation, if I had posted it in it's usual format. Never could rely on Falstaff.

Lol. Good point

[Zod]

Ayahuasca said:

EddieSteadyGo said:

Bill said:

Ayahuasca said:

Why did you assume that his joke was aimed at Arabs? Perhaps he meant Moroccans, Libyans, Egyptians, Iraqis, Jordanians, Iranians, Palestinians, Afghans, etc, etc. or are these all just 'Arabs' to you?

Most of those are Arabs surely?

I think you will find he is trying to be a smart arse so I suspect he isn't worth arguing with. At least, that is what I concluded

I was absolutely being a smart arse!

But calling any cloth headdress-wearing person of Middle Eastern appearance an 'Arab' is not really on, especially if you want to wrap your own head in Libtard principles.

Other than Iranians and Afghans, all of your list will proudly describe themselves as Arabs.

[crankedup]

TTwiggy said:

As we're going way off topic here...

Cranky - were you a part of the Suffolk vintage rally thing that was operating out of Framlingham last weekend? Lots of lovely old cars on the roads.

Unfortunately not, I was at Stonham Barns for thier Vintage & Steam weekend.

Added to bring back on topic : in my thirty years experience enjoying steam and vintage rallies,
mainly in East Anglia, it is very rare to see any other people apart from white middle aged people. Having said that I have noticed that more white young persons are bringing along thier pride and joys to the shows, mainly 1970s/80s modern classics.
The only black person I have ever met at a show was just a few weeks ago, we chatted about his Ford Corsair. Decent fellow and lovely classic car he is enjoying, and he was looking like he was middle thirties age group. Why other non white people do not attend shows is a mystery to me. Cultural interests ?

Edited by crankedup on Friday 25th May 09:56

Edited by crankedup on Friday 25th May 11:40

[captain_cynic]

Zod said:

ther than Iranians and Afghans, all of your list will proudly describe themselves as Arabs.

Arab is a different ethnic group to Persian. Syrians, Afghans, Tajiks and Iranians are mostly ethnically Persian. Persians are more or less white (by more or less, they're pretty much as white as any other white ethnicity which has had other races intermixing with them in the last century). Many racists consider Persians the origin of the "white race".

With Iran, whilst most Iranians are Persians, the leadership are almost exclusively Arabs originating from Southern Iraq.

Back on topic, I have very pale skin so I tend to flush quite easily, I could easily look quite Gammon but no-one would call me such because I'm not constantly scowling, angry or have uncomfortable right-wing views.

[JagLover]

captain_cynic said:

Arab is a different ethnic group to Persian. Syrians, Afghans, Tajiks and Iranians are mostly ethnically Persian. Persians are more or less white (by more or less, they're pretty much as white as any other white ethnicity which has had other races intermixing with them in the last century). Many racists consider Persians the origin of the "white race".

Arabs are indeed a different ethnic group but not all "Arab" nations are 100% Arab or even majority Arab.

Take Egypt as an obvious example

http://www.egyptindependent.com/dna-analysis-prove...

As is so often the case when you dig down into it what we call different racial groups is often different languages.

[Crackie]

jjlynn27 said:

I do find it entertaining when people make up things, either about themselves or even more bizarrely, about someone that they've never met.

Steady now jj, glass houses etc. However, I must admit, it was amusing when you made things up about me. Bizarrely, I don't think that we've ever met either.

I never expected you to admit you were wrong or apologise; my suspicions were correct.

Edited by Crackie on Friday 25th May 11:56

[jjlynn27]

gooner1 said:

Son, I'm so upset by the fact that my calling you son, hurts you
so much. So much so , son, that your hurtful little tirade has totally
been diluted to such an extent that it's effect is akin to rain on
a ducks back.

The only people that I've ever heard using 'son' addressing people that they are not related to are those old, destitute men roaming the streets wondering where it all went wrong while asking for spare change. You'd have to be pretty thick to think that calling someone 'son' on the forum is in any way 'hurtful'.
But if it makes your existence in any way more bearable, please continue.

gooner1 said:

Re your illiterate comment, son, one could be the worlds
best speller, but when they don't understand what the words
actually mean, then it's very much a wasted talent.
Wouldn't you agree, son, still not to worry it's not like
it's an EMERGENCY , is it, son.

I would agree, and it's nice that you are trying to learn new words at your age. Here, have some help;

[crankedup]

The use of the word ‘son’ was very widespread in London ‘gangland’ throughout the 1950s & 60s. Context in use would be threatening and intimidating to the ‘less hard’ persons. Sometimes the word ‘son’ would be substituted for the word ‘sonny’ in which case the threat was even greater.