45th President of the United States, Donald Trump. (Vol 5)

45th President of the United States, Donald Trump. (Vol 5)

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Eric Mc

122,029 posts

265 months

Tuesday 25th September 2018
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Chimune said:
So why do they clap?
Embarrassment?
Could very well be the reason. They are diplomats and ambassadors after all and they will have wanted to redress the rather sarcastic laughter with a bit of politeness. He is the President of the US, even if he is Donald Trump the showman.

Zod

35,295 posts

258 months

Tuesday 25th September 2018
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Nanook said:
_dobbo_ said:
Longer video here:

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/104459781050150...

He's boasting about how much his administration has achieved. They openly laugh at him.

For a tiny miniscule fraction of time I nearly felt sorry for him there. then I remembered who he is.
Yeah, thanks. i got the general vibe, but I thought they laughed at something in particular that he said, that I couldn't make out.

He seemed to take it well.
He didn't understand. He's too far gone.

MC Bodge

21,628 posts

175 months

Tuesday 25th September 2018
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Chimune said:
So why do they clap?
Embarrassment?
He took it well, that's why they clapped.

Had he told them to "F**k off!" they probably wouldn't gave clapped.

He did look afterwards as if he'd been a bit taken aback by the laughing, and a little bit sheepish. He'd been caught out and knew it.

He probably rarely gets anything other than cheering from his fans whilst standing on a stage like that.

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 25th September 2018
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Haven't seen this mentioned, unless I've missed it?

https://twitter.com/thomasafine/status/10444418812...

PR firm used by Kavanaugh associate Ed Whelan to promote his theory exonerating Kavanugh was Creative Response Concepts, who just so happened to submit a FARA registration in 2005 for work done for...Victor Yanukovych. That's the same time period as Manafort. Additionally, CRC was who bought Kellyanne Conway's polling business, with her position on the Trump team meaning she could defer capital gains tax.

I'm sure all of that is mere coincidence and not the least bit swampy.

hidetheelephants

24,342 posts

193 months

Tuesday 25th September 2018
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Gameface said:
I see it from your side too.

But he's obviously a Trump stooge who will do what he's told and as every day goes by and more comes out, I'm more inclined to believe the accusers.

But even if I didn't, this man is clearly not fit to be a SCJ.
he's not fit to be a member of the bar, never mind a judge of any kind, SCOTUS or otherwise.

NRS said:
Eric Mc said:
captain_cynic said:
To play the devils advocate, bandwagons have formed over far lesser things and a lot of people, especially career driven people want their 15 mins of fame.

(note: I agree he's a complete scumbag, just trying to look from other perspectives).
There is no obligation to make up another perspective when that other perspective doesn't exist.
That other perspective does exist. Plenty of Republicans I am sure will genuinely believe this is a blocking tactic. They know they have tried stuff to block the position when Obama was there, so will suspect the same is being done now. You can't really prove or disprove these accusations in terms of firm evidence, so it becomes he said/she said. And so it is easy to support "your" side as a result, as you believe the other side is lying.
This douchbag is being screened for SCOTUS; to sit in judgement of anything and everything that precident and legislation cannot offer a clear verdict on a candidate has to be Mr. Clean, not Mr. Rapey-Misogynist. We didn't get to see an array of skeletons tumble out of Merrick Garland's closet, the GOP decided that the judicial committee wouldn't start proceedings because they're a bunch of creaky old partisan dinosaurs.

p1stonhead

25,544 posts

167 months

Tuesday 25th September 2018
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Apparently he actually said this.

Bet he loves it now the shoe is on the other turntable.


Seventy

5,500 posts

138 months

Tuesday 25th September 2018
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Kavanaugh giving a twenty minute interview to Fox tells me all I need to know.

A Supreme Court nominee giving an interview (read rebuttal of the accusations with no counter rebuttal) on a highly partisan television network? Give me a fking break.

Unheard of.

MC Bodge

21,628 posts

175 months

Tuesday 25th September 2018
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Seventy said:
Kavanaugh giving a twenty minute interview to Fox tells me all I need to know.

A Supreme Court nominee giving an interview (read rebuttal of the accusations with no counter rebuttal) on a highly partisan television network? Give me a fking break.

Unheard of.
This is the Trumpian era

Byker28i

59,804 posts

217 months

Tuesday 25th September 2018
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MC Bodge said:
Seventy said:
Kavanaugh giving a twenty minute interview to Fox tells me all I need to know.

A Supreme Court nominee giving an interview (read rebuttal of the accusations with no counter rebuttal) on a highly partisan television network? Give me a fking break.

Unheard of.
This is the Trumpian era
Shall we start on the lies he told that can be proven. In the Fox interviw, Kavanaugh stressed he was drinking legally: "Yes, there were parties. And the drinking age was 18, and yes, the seniors were legal and had beer there"
Except the legal age turned to 21 when Kavanaugh was 17



Byker28i

59,804 posts

217 months

Tuesday 25th September 2018
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Byker28i

59,804 posts

217 months

Tuesday 25th September 2018
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Senate Judiciary Chairman Chuck Grassley confirmed that the committee has hired an outside counsel to question Christine Blasey Ford and Judge Brett Kavanaugh. The individual is a woman with expertise in sex crimes prosecution, an aide told CNN. They won't say it is 'to protect her from abuse' says Grassley.




Sen. Bob Corker says GOP senators were told at lunch to expect to be in DC this weekend to process Kavanaugh nomination quickly.
So thats a totally unbiased hearing, right before Republicans dismiss the victims and swiftly confirm their attacker.



anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 25th September 2018
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America: Land of the free sexpest.........

MC Bodge

21,628 posts

175 months

Tuesday 25th September 2018
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Max_Torque said:
America: Land of the free sexpest.........
The conservative Christian sexpest?

Edited by MC Bodge on Tuesday 25th September 22:08

_dobbo_

14,378 posts

248 months

Tuesday 25th September 2018
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Rumours swirling that the fourth accuser Avenatti was representing was actually a 4chan troll - Avenatti has suddenly made his Twitter account private.

If true, it's a bit of an own goal, one of those lies gone around the world before the truth has it's boots on. Most people will remember the accusation, fewer will realise it was fabricated.

Anyway I guess only three credible claims of sexual assault means Kavanaugh should be fine to serve on the supreme court.

Tallow

1,624 posts

161 months

Tuesday 25th September 2018
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_dobbo_ said:
Rumours swirling that the fourth accuser Avenatti was representing was actually a 4chan troll - Avenatti has suddenly made his Twitter account private.

If true, it's a bit of an own goal, one of those lies gone around the world before the truth has it's boots on. Most people will remember the accusation, fewer will realise it was fabricated.

Anyway I guess only three credible claims of sexual assault means Kavanaugh should be fine to serve on the supreme court.
That's not what Avenetti is saying:

NRS

22,157 posts

201 months

Tuesday 25th September 2018
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_dobbo_ said:
Rumours swirling that the fourth accuser Avenatti was representing was actually a 4chan troll - Avenatti has suddenly made his Twitter account private.

If true, it's a bit of an own goal, one of those lies gone around the world before the truth has it's boots on. Most people will remember the accusation, fewer will realise it was fabricated.

Anyway I guess only three credible claims of sexual assault means Kavanaugh should be fine to serve on the supreme court.
What is credible though? That's the problem with claims like this, it is hard to prove it did or didn't happen. So it's hard to prove (or disprove) credibility. Especially after so much time. Any "I remember this" is likely to be modified with time due to the flexibility that memory actually is. (That is not taking away anything from anyone that has had any assault - just speaking scientifically. Some things would clearly be easy to remember/ impossible to forget though). Not to mention the (possible) problem of bias if everything is registered after something like the nomination.

Seventy

5,500 posts

138 months

Tuesday 25th September 2018
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NRS said:
just speaking scientifically.
Apologies for the drastic snip, but please remind me of your ‘scientific’ qualifications?

AreOut

3,658 posts

161 months

Tuesday 25th September 2018
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Eric Mc said:
He let the mask slip. In his head he was thinking "These guys know I'm a con-man - so I'll play along - for the moment".
isn't that what everybody knows though smile his supporters hope his con skills will be used for their interests

Eric Mc

122,029 posts

265 months

Wednesday 26th September 2018
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AreOut said:
Eric Mc said:
He let the mask slip. In his head he was thinking "These guys know I'm a con-man - so I'll play along - for the moment".
isn't that what everybody knows though smile his supporters hope his con skills will be used for their interests
Of course everybody know - it's just that he sometimes forgets and needs reminding.

Byker28i

59,804 posts

217 months

Wednesday 26th September 2018
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Tallow said:
_dobbo_ said:
Rumours swirling that the fourth accuser Avenatti was representing was actually a 4chan troll - Avenatti has suddenly made his Twitter account private.

If true, it's a bit of an own goal, one of those lies gone around the world before the truth has it's boots on. Most people will remember the accusation, fewer will realise it was fabricated.

Anyway I guess only three credible claims of sexual assault means Kavanaugh should be fine to serve on the supreme court.
That's not what Avenetti is saying:
Avenatti has done this before, when he had information on women claims against trump. His twitter account was stormed by trolls and Russian bots leading up to it, so he's gone private to stop this.
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