45th President of the United States, Donald Trump. (Vol 5)

45th President of the United States, Donald Trump. (Vol 5)

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GPSHead

657 posts

241 months

Sunday 28th October 2018
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I predict with 100% confidence that the Republicans will hold the House and increase their lead in the Senate.

Perhaps the Democrats should think about actually offering the voters something instead of relying on vote fraud, laundered Soros cash, false accusations, and paying Hondurans to invade? How truly nasty, disingenuous and hateful they and many of their supporters have become. Thank goodness they're not going to be rewarded for that.

Anyway, can't wait for the excuses and the tears of impotent rage here and elsewhere come Wednesday week! laugh

Byker28i

59,720 posts

217 months

Sunday 28th October 2018
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Trumps attacking Tom Steyer on twitter, one of 12 individuals sent an explosive device in the mail this week

Tampon

4,637 posts

225 months

Sunday 28th October 2018
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GPSHead said:
I predict with 100% confidence that the Republicans will hold the House and increase their lead in the Senate.

Perhaps the Democrats should think about actually offering the voters something instead of relying on vote fraud, laundered Soros cash, false accusations, and paying Hondurans to invade? How truly nasty, disingenuous and hateful they and many of their supporters have become. Thank goodness they're not going to be rewarded for that.

Anyway, can't wait for the excuses and the tears of impotent rage here and elsewhere come Wednesday week! laugh
Quoted.

See you a week Wednesday.

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Gameface

16,565 posts

77 months

Sunday 28th October 2018
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Going by that, I'm glad he doesn't post much.

Tampon

4,637 posts

225 months

Sunday 28th October 2018
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Your past predictions have turned out not to be quite so insightful...

GPSHead said:
. just wanted to make sure all the virtue-signallers have their talking points in advance of the summit.(...) if North Korea does give up its nuclear weapons (spoiler: it will), the most important point to make is that Drumpf played absolutely no part in achieving that, and indeed his buffoonish presence actually did nothing but jeopardise the deal.

Byker28i

59,720 posts

217 months

Sunday 28th October 2018
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Kelly Johnston, the Campbell Soup Vice President of Gov. Affairs, who said George Soros' foundation was assisting a caravan of migrants bound for the United States is no longer with the company

https://edition.cnn.com/2018/10/27/business/campbe...


paulguitar

23,392 posts

113 months

Sunday 28th October 2018
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GPSHead said:
I predict with 100% confidence that the Republicans will hold the House and increase their lead in the Senate.

Perhaps the Democrats should think about actually offering the voters something instead of relying on vote fraud, laundered Soros cash, false accusations, and paying Hondurans to invade? How truly nasty, disingenuous and hateful they and many of their supporters have become. Thank goodness they're not going to be rewarded for that.

Anyway, can't wait for the excuses and the tears of impotent rage here and elsewhere come Wednesday week! laugh
This, surely, is a spoof post, but the stereotype bingo a bit too predictable.

Mediocre effort.

2/10.

Challo

10,124 posts

155 months

Sunday 28th October 2018
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GPSHead said:
I predict with 100% confidence that the Republicans will hold the House and increase their lead in the Senate.

Perhaps the Democrats should think about actually offering the voters something instead of relying on vote fraud, laundered Soros cash, false accusations, and paying Hondurans to invade? How truly nasty, disingenuous and hateful they and many of their supporters have become. Thank goodness they're not going to be rewarded for that.

Anyway, can't wait for the excuses and the tears of impotent rage here and elsewhere come Wednesday week! laugh
What’s your evidence about Dems paying the caravan to invade?

Seventy

5,500 posts

138 months

Sunday 28th October 2018
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I advise not giving him the attention he craves.

Gameface

16,565 posts

77 months

Sunday 28th October 2018
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It's so obviously a wind up, that anyone falling for it, is almost as annoying as him.

rxtx

6,016 posts

210 months

Sunday 28th October 2018
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It's certainly the strangest interjection into this thread this year. The mind boggles. I especially enjoyed the use of a larger, bold font. Almost as if the post was important in some way.

Gameface

16,565 posts

77 months

Sunday 28th October 2018
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Oh I don't know, superflow and coyft had some tremendous contributions.

Byker28i

59,720 posts

217 months

Sunday 28th October 2018
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Trump makes up reasons to continue with his rally/fund raiser after the shooting. Just flat out lying all the time now.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/politics/20...

Byker28i

59,720 posts

217 months

Sunday 28th October 2018
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A well written article on how trumps hate rhetoric is the direct cause for the pitsburgh shooter, mirrored by pence and Fox
https://www.theatlantic.com/amp/article/574213/

Byker28i

59,720 posts

217 months

Sunday 28th October 2018
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This afadavit shows that bowers got the better of 4 experienced officers...

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/5022733-Ro...

So much for trumps idea of an armed guard stopping him...

Tartan Pixie

2,208 posts

147 months

Sunday 28th October 2018
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Trump's war on the state department and the Kashoggi incident are dovetailing in to some interesting goings on in Istanbul. Putin, Erdogan, Merkel and Macron met today to discuss Syria and one of the most notable aspects of the meeting is the complete lack of American involvement.

Macron increasingly appears to be the point man when the EU needs to deal with Trump, presumably as a side effect of his handshake diplomacy, so he called Trump yesterday and I'd love to have listened in on that call. Did Macron go in to details of European plans and actually strategize with Trump, or did Trump prattle on with his usual stream of garbage leaving Macron little choice but to end up in an Ali G role of appearing to agree while being several steps ahead of Trump?

Jaw jaw aside the actions of the Europeans are telling. By going to Istanbul they have shown that they have lost all faith in American diplomatic abilities and decided that the only way to protect European interests is to join the Russian led Astana process. https://twitter.com/joshua_landis/status/105626007...

As an isolationist I doubt Trump is too bothered by this and given the violent nature of US foreign policy in the middle east we may yet be thankful for a lack of American engagement, however there's another story here aside from the loss of American influence in the world. The even greater loss of American influence.

When Jamal Kashoggi was murdered the Turks made a decision that it was worth announcing to the world that they had bugged the Saudi embassy and by extension have probably bugged every other embassy in Turkey. This is no small decision to make so clearly they're expecting some major payback from it and, aside from the obvious benefit of making Trump and MbS look like the thin skinned tyrants they are, the genius of Turkey's move is buried in the small print of the Istanbul meeting - To join the Astana process the EU must commit to helping rebuild Syria.

The point of this isn't about money and the Turks aren't likely to ask for much anyway, the point is that to comply the Europeans will have to break American sanctions against Syria. What the Turks have done is simultaneously make a mockery of the old Washington / Riyadh alliance while breaking open a whole new set of markets for the nascent 'anywhere but America' banking system that Europe has been setting up ever since Trump pulled out of the JCPOA (Iran deal).

From here in the UK it's easy to deride Turkey because we see them from a eurocentric point of view but from an Arab or Persian perspective they are a highly diversified economy with well established and largely corruption free institutions, a military power with home grown arms trade and a democratic power with diplomatic clout to match. When it looked like Saudi was going to invade Qatar it was the Turks who sent sent large numbers of troops to prevent the war from happening. When the Saudi fuelled jihadi invasion of Syria failed it is Turkey, not Saudi, who are capable of picking up the pieces.

Since moving away from it's illusions of joining the EU Turkey has focused its efforts on competing with Saudi for leadership of the Islamic world and the period from Kashoggi's murder to today's meeting in Istanbul represents a sucker punch to American backed Saudi leadership of the middle east. A Berlin / Ankara alliance is not new but this time round they're looking a lot more like the good guys than we are.


Eric Mc

121,994 posts

265 months

Sunday 28th October 2018
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The above all makes eminent sense.

The Turks and the Germans have strong historical links.

Trump's total ignorance of history and the absolute lack of knowledge of the historic relationships of countries to each other is turning out to be disastrous for America.

Maybe backing KSA will turn out to be a case of backing the wrong camel.

Byker28i

59,720 posts

217 months

Sunday 28th October 2018
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More about Grassleys deleted tweet about Soros

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/amphtml/lissandravill...

Tartan Pixie

2,208 posts

147 months

Monday 29th October 2018
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Eric Mc said:
The above all makes eminent sense.

The Turks and the Germans have strong historical links.

Trump's total ignorance of history and the absolute lack of knowledge of the historic relationships of countries to each other is turning out to be disastrous for America.

Maybe backing KSA will turn out to be a case of backing the wrong camel.
Britain and particularly England have strong ties to Turkey too that have sadly been lost in the hulabaloo of today's context free media. Protestant England once allied with Turkey against Catholic Europe / Spain in a move that was as geopolitical as it was religious. English foreign policy from the time the Romans left until the creation of the EC/EU can be summed up as 'support the lesser power so that no one power can unify Europe and invade us'.

In a brexit situation I am utterly humiliated at the lack of engagement with Turkey. I get that Europe has now unified so England has 1,000 ish years of cultural fear towards a unified Europe to overcome which prevented them from ever being a leading light within the EU, however if England is not going to be a part of Europe then geostrategically they must bracket Europe, because that's what England, Turkey and to a lesser extent Russia do. England is Europe's gateway to America as Turkey is Europe's gateway to the middle east.

From the English press it's easy to demonize Turkey but look at Somalia, look at the failure of Europe to create any form of peace in previously colonised countries that allowed the spread of Saudi money to create Boko Haram by providing Wahhabi mosques that provided an alternative to corrupt politicians and know this - Turkey is the answer to the Saudi problem.

You may not have heard of Ahmet Davuto?lu but I hold him in high regard as one of the world's greatest geopolitical thinkers, he's the reason why China, Turkey and Saudi are rushing to build military bases around the horn of Africa. Do you really want Saudi or China winning this race? Turkey every time tyvm.

Zod

35,295 posts

258 months

Monday 29th October 2018
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Tartan Pixie said:
Britain and particularly England have strong ties to Turkey too that have sadly been lost in the hulabaloo of today's context free media. Protestant England once allied with Turkey against Catholic Europe / Spain in a move that was as geopolitical as it was religious. English foreign policy from the time the Romans left until the creation of the EC/EU can be summed up as 'support the lesser power so that no one power can unify Europe and invade us'.

In a brexit situation I am utterly humiliated at the lack of engagement with Turkey. I get that Europe has now unified so England has 1,000 ish years of cultural fear towards a unified Europe to overcome which prevented them from ever being a leading light within the EU, however if England is not going to be a part of Europe then geostrategically they must bracket Europe, because that's what England, Turkey and to a lesser extent Russia do. England is Europe's gateway to America as Turkey is Europe's gateway to the middle east.

From the English press it's easy to demonize Turkey but look at Somalia, look at the failure of Europe to create any form of peace in previously colonised countries that allowed the spread of Saudi money to create Boko Haram by providing Wahhabi mosques that provided an alternative to corrupt politicians and know this - Turkey is the answer to the Saudi problem.

You may not have heard of Ahmet Davuto?lu but I hold him in high regard as one of the world's greatest geopolitical thinkers, he's the reason why China, Turkey and Saudi are rushing to build military bases around the horn of Africa. Do you really want Saudi or China winning this race? Turkey every time tyvm.
Ha! I’m sure you see the irony, given Frage & co’s dishonest claims that Turkey was a shout to be admitted to the EU. Turkey would never be allowed to join by the French or the Germans and doesn’t even want to join now, vi en their attitude (this predates Erdogan).


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