Jeremy Corbyn (Vol. 3)

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Halb

53,012 posts

183 months

Thursday 13th December 2018
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GT119 said:
The first image that popped into my head when I read that was Grima Wormtongue whispering in Theoden’s ear.
Good allusion!

Johnnytheboy

24,498 posts

186 months

Thursday 13th December 2018
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Halb said:
GT119 said:
The first image that popped into my head when I read that was Grima Wormtongue whispering in Theoden’s ear.
Good allusion!
So who is Gandalf?

Stuzza

138 posts

88 months

Thursday 13th December 2018
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Johnnytheboy said:
So who is Gandalf?
Gandalf the Grey? John Major...

RichB

51,571 posts

284 months

Thursday 13th December 2018
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Stuzza said:
Johnnytheboy said:
So who is Gandalf?
Gandalf the Grey? John Major...
Not got teh flowing hair... got to be Hesletine!


JagLover

42,406 posts

235 months

Sunday 16th December 2018
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Another week another Labour anti-semtism story

They have had to suspend their west midlands regional coordinator after the Sunday Times provided evidence of past activity on social media. Which included the claim "all wars in the world" are due to Jewish people and posts referring to "holocaust propaganda"

NoNeed

15,137 posts

200 months

Sunday 16th December 2018
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The Dangerous Elk said:
Why would you not expect a WTF comment from Mac Donnell ?, every utterance from him is a jaw dropper.
Corbyn drops a few too.


In 2013, Jeremy Corbyn said: "We salute Chavez and the people of Venezuela for turning the clock of history full circle... I look forward to the development of Venezuela, the efficiency of Venezuela, in providing good services and decency for all the people of that country."

johnxjsc1985

15,948 posts

164 months

Sunday 16th December 2018
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He and the Labour Party at this point should be almost double figures ahead of the Tories the bloke and his party are unelectable.

Halb

53,012 posts

183 months

Sunday 16th December 2018
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Well the Torys did get the almost half of ukips vote (1.8mill) as a nice buffer cushion.

BlackLabel

13,251 posts

123 months

Monday 17th December 2018
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Interesting piece by Nick Cohen.....


https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/dec...

Why are Labour’s leaders so quiet on Europe? Maybe it’s the lure of disaster

“One explained that, whatever other qualities Corbyn possesses, he is not overburdened by the weight of his intellect. The brains behind the operation are John McDonnell, Milne and Murray. And “they absolutely believe that if Brexit brings chaos the voters will turn to the radical left”. To put it in Marxist language, a crisis in capitalism will allow the left intelligentsia to lead the proletariat to victory.”

Bullett

10,886 posts

184 months

Monday 17th December 2018
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Was just about to post that.

I thought this bit was interesting.

Lenin established the doctrine of revolutionary defeatism during the First World War. He had no time for “banal” socialists who were campaigning for peace. The true communist welcomed war and yearned for the defeat of his country. For a defeat, in Lenin’s case of Russia by Germany, would incite “hatred of one’s own government and one’s own bourgeoisie” and bring the revolution closer


Jonesy23

4,650 posts

136 months

Monday 17th December 2018
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It's fairly obvious that their strongest campaigning position is from being the people to fix a problem rather than in trying to convince people to avoid it. As a strategy gaining power after some sort of chaos or disaster has worked a few times through history to let nutters get in.

Though this does assume there will actually be chaos of some sort. And it also assumes that Marxist intelligentsia with such a narrow and distorted view of the world will actually be smart and capable enough to take advantage. So far its all been student politics level stuff while proper elections take a little more.

Halb

53,012 posts

183 months

Monday 17th December 2018
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So Corbyn/Trotsky i actually Radaghast! And McConnell/Stalin is Sauraman!

Cameron is Tom Bombadil having a jolly ole time

urquattroGus

1,847 posts

190 months

Tuesday 18th December 2018
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Somewhat farcical vote of no confidence for just the PM.

Surely this achieves little to nothing in practice, keeps some of his supporters abated for a while perhaps.

Fit's the general template of the man's character if you ask me, lip service and posturing without any constructive ideas or actions.

Smollet

10,568 posts

190 months

Tuesday 18th December 2018
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urquattroGus said:
Somewhat farcical vote of no confidence for just the PM.

Surely this achieves little to nothing in practice, keeps some of his supporters abated for a while perhaps.

Fit's the general template of the man's character if you ask me, lip service and posturing without any constructive ideas or actions.
Does this mean he has confidence in another Tory being PM then? I thought a vote of no confidence was aimed at the current government not on its head or has Jezza hit on a new way of showing he means business knowing full well he'll never be held to account?

irocfan

40,437 posts

190 months

Tuesday 18th December 2018
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Smollet said:
urquattroGus said:
Somewhat farcical vote of no confidence for just the PM.

Surely this achieves little to nothing in practice, keeps some of his supporters abated for a while perhaps.

Fit's the general template of the man's character if you ask me, lip service and posturing without any constructive ideas or actions.
Does this mean he has confidence in another Tory being PM then? I thought a vote of no confidence was aimed at the current government not on its head or has Jezza hit on a new way of showing he means business knowing full well he'll never be held to account?
It'll encourage Tories not happy with TM to vote for NC, which they wouldn't against the government....

Rovinghawk

13,300 posts

158 months

Tuesday 18th December 2018
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Camoradi

4,289 posts

256 months

Tuesday 18th December 2018
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hehe

Bullett

10,886 posts

184 months

Tuesday 18th December 2018
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What would it actually achieve though?
If it went ahead and he won all that would happen is he forces the cons to elect a new leader, what does that do?
Could the tories then vote TM back in?

superlightr

12,856 posts

263 months

Tuesday 18th December 2018
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Rovinghawk said:
haha smile

RichB

51,571 posts

284 months

Tuesday 18th December 2018
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irocfan said:
It'll encourage Tories not happy with TM to vote for NC, which they wouldn't against the government....
But the man's a fool. The Tories have just had a leadership challenge and May received on more vote than when she was elected leader of the party 2 years ago.
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