Jeremy Corbyn (Vol. 3)

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Halb

53,012 posts

183 months

Thursday 24th January 2019
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That's brilliant. Looks like Jon Pryce.

Mort7

1,487 posts

108 months

Thursday 24th January 2019
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Can't be Corbyn. He'd be sitting on the floor next to the empty seat, moaning about overcrowding. wobble

Wacky Racer

38,136 posts

247 months

Thursday 24th January 2019
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Halb said:
That's brilliant. Looks like Jon Pryce.
He does a bit yes, but many people liken him to Corbyn. smile

It's 10ft tall btw.

hidetheelephants

24,137 posts

193 months

Thursday 24th January 2019
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alfie2244 said:
Balmoral said:
There appear to be three already, anymore?

UKIP
The Brexit Party
The Sovereign Party
http://thepatrioticalliance.co.uk/wp-content/themes/thepatrioticalliance/maintenance.php
Which one is the Judean Peoples' Front and which is the Peoples' Front of Judea?

Bullett

10,879 posts

184 months

Thursday 24th January 2019
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Splitters

alfie2244

11,292 posts

188 months

Thursday 24th January 2019
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hidetheelephants said:
alfie2244 said:
Balmoral said:
There appear to be three already, anymore?

UKIP
The Brexit Party
The Sovereign Party
http://thepatrioticalliance.co.uk/wp-content/themes/thepatrioticalliance/maintenance.php
Which one is the Judean Peoples' Front and which is the Peoples' Front of Judea?
They're all splitters...........what about the Popular Front?

Gargamel

14,970 posts

261 months

Thursday 24th January 2019
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alfie2244 said:
hidetheelephants said:
alfie2244 said:
Balmoral said:
There appear to be three already, anymore?

UKIP
The Brexit Party
The Sovereign Party
http://thepatrioticalliance.co.uk/wp-content/themes/thepatrioticalliance/maintenance.php
Which one is the Judean Peoples' Front and which is the Peoples' Front of Judea?
They're all splitters...........what about the Popular Front?
He's over there, on his own

loafer123

15,423 posts

215 months

Friday 25th January 2019
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I don't understand JC's position on requiring a Customs Union.

I don't agree with it, but even if you do, what is the point of saying it now? Under No Deal, or May's Deal, the future trading relationship discussions are all up in the air and will take a couple of years to negotiate. We will have plenty of time to debate that relationship in Parliament once we leave.

jurbie

2,343 posts

201 months

Friday 25th January 2019
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I don't think he understands it either but he needs a position on something that he's clearly not that interested in and saying 'Customs Union' a lot is a neat soundbite so it's as good as anything else.

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 25th January 2019
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Corbyn is clueless on many things and throws out the "what about X" ste to create trouble and shift things from him being a baby and not wanting to talk to May. Perhaps if she is accused of terrorist offences he might give her some time.

Burwood

18,709 posts

246 months

Friday 25th January 2019
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loafer123 said:
I don't understand JC's position on requiring a Customs Union.

I don't agree with it, but even if you do, what is the point of saying it now? Under No Deal, or May's Deal, the future trading relationship discussions are all up in the air and will take a couple of years to negotiate. We will have plenty of time to debate that relationship in Parliament once we leave.
In mind his ploy is very simple. By demanding the impossible as well as refusing to engage with TM he thinks he can avoid being implicated in the impending train wreck. It's all about his master plan to force an election. Either we crash out or take Mays deal, the country is pissed either way and he can point the finger. He may just get his election. If he does what is best for the country (debate/discuss) he gets no election and potentially blamed.

I think in the bigger picture, we will crash out unless Bercow indulges MPs with various motions (and oversteps again)

If Corbyn was in a position to negotiate Brexit, all he would do is extend Article 50 and 'negotiate'. Said negotiation would just be multi year never ending stfiest as we see now. He's like the arm chair critic watching football. Thinks they could manage the team better but doesn't have a clue

There is no deal he would support because he enjoys the perceived benefits in a divided Parliament/nation. Election Election Election.

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Edited by Burwood on Friday 25th January 09:36

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 25th January 2019
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Burwood said:
loafer123 said:
I don't understand JC's position on requiring a Customs Union.

I don't agree with it, but even if you do, what is the point of saying it now? Under No Deal, or May's Deal, the future trading relationship discussions are all up in the air and will take a couple of years to negotiate. We will have plenty of time to debate that relationship in Parliament once we leave.
In mind his ploy is very simple. By demanding the impossible as well as refusing to engage with TM he thinks he can avoid being implicated in the impending train wreck. It's all about his master plan to force an election. Either we crash out or take Mays deal, the country is pissed either way and he can point the finger. He may just get his election. If he does what is best for the country (debate/discuss) he gets no election and potentially blamed.

I think in the bigger picture, we will crash out unless Bercow indulges MPs with various motions (and oversteps again)
Corby hates the EU, he wants right out of it but brexit is the conservatives doing, he doesn’t have a clue what’s best for the country.

The best thing Corbyn can do (for himself) is sit back and watch and sneak in an election at some opportune moment.

768

13,645 posts

96 months

Friday 25th January 2019
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loafer123 said:
I don't understand JC's position on requiring a Customs Union.

I don't agree with it, but even if you do, what is the point of saying it now? Under No Deal, or May's Deal, the future trading relationship discussions are all up in the air and will take a couple of years to negotiate. We will have plenty of time to debate that relationship in Parliament once we leave.
It's to deliberately pick something May probably can't agree to after being slated for not saying what he'd do for 18 months plus.

He's putting all his efforts into being contrary in the hope that people dissatisfied with May will see him as an alternative. And he's basically courting the remain vote without spelling it out in the hope leavers won't notice.

I don't think he gives a st about a customs union, it doesn't make any sense that he would.

SpeckledJim

31,608 posts

253 months

Friday 25th January 2019
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768 said:
loafer123 said:
I don't understand JC's position on requiring a Customs Union.

I don't agree with it, but even if you do, what is the point of saying it now? Under No Deal, or May's Deal, the future trading relationship discussions are all up in the air and will take a couple of years to negotiate. We will have plenty of time to debate that relationship in Parliament once we leave.
It's to deliberately pick something May probably can't agree to after being slated for not saying what he'd do for 18 months plus.

He's putting all his efforts into being contrary in the hope that people dissatisfied with May will see him as an alternative. And he's basically courting the remain vote without spelling it out in the hope leavers won't notice.

I don't think he gives a st about a customs union, it doesn't make any sense that he would.
Agree. When he had the same policy as the Tories (enact the result) he got beaten. He needs to have an opposing position (any opposing position, really) because in a head-to-head competency test, he loses.

Which is remarkable, really, given the levels of competency on display from May, but there we go.

Burwood

18,709 posts

246 months

Friday 25th January 2019
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768 said:
loafer123 said:
I don't understand JC's position on requiring a Customs Union.

I don't agree with it, but even if you do, what is the point of saying it now? Under No Deal, or May's Deal, the future trading relationship discussions are all up in the air and will take a couple of years to negotiate. We will have plenty of time to debate that relationship in Parliament once we leave.
It's to deliberately pick something May probably can't agree to after being slated for not saying what he'd do for 18 months plus.

He's putting all his efforts into being contrary in the hope that people dissatisfied with May will see him as an alternative. And he's basically courting the remain vote without spelling it out in the hope leavers won't notice.

I don't think he gives a st about a customs union, it doesn't make any sense that he would.
Well, it's a fact that he couldn't turn us into Venezuela whilst tied to the EU. Brexit is just creating an opportunity to seize power. Kick the actual problem it brings into the long grass. Power at any cost is the game play.

Digga

40,293 posts

283 months

Friday 25th January 2019
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768 said:
loafer123 said:
I don't understand JC's position on requiring a Customs Union.

I don't agree with it, but even if you do, what is the point of saying it now? Under No Deal, or May's Deal, the future trading relationship discussions are all up in the air and will take a couple of years to negotiate. We will have plenty of time to debate that relationship in Parliament once we leave.
It's to deliberately pick something May probably can't agree to after being slated for not saying what he'd do for 18 months plus.

He's putting all his efforts into being contrary in the hope that people dissatisfied with May will see him as an alternative. And he's basically courting the remain vote without spelling it out in the hope leavers won't notice.

I don't think he gives a st about a customs union, it doesn't make any sense that he would.
It's pure, cynical politics of contraryism.

It'll play wonderfully with the small-minded band of rabid Tory haters he surrounds himself with, but everyone else sees it for what it is; a deplorably low tactic, by a very dubious politician. Now is the time for united, cross-party action, not political point-scoring.

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 25th January 2019
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Digga said:
It's pure, cynical politics of contraryism.

It'll play wonderfully with the small-minded band of rabid Tory haters he surrounds himself with, but everyone else sees it for what it is; a deplorably low tactic, by a very dubious politician. Now is the time for united, cross-party action, not political point-scoring.
Some of labour MPs are getting involved but they seem to be the blairites and centrists trying to get another referendum.

Must be tempting though if you’re the opposition, and the Conservatives are responsible for the referendum and now imploding and making such a mess of Brexit, not to just sit back and let them do it.


Digga

40,293 posts

283 months

Friday 25th January 2019
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El stovey said:
Digga said:
It's pure, cynical politics of contraryism.

It'll play wonderfully with the small-minded band of rabid Tory haters he surrounds himself with, but everyone else sees it for what it is; a deplorably low tactic, by a very dubious politician. Now is the time for united, cross-party action, not political point-scoring.
Some of labour MPs are getting involved but they seem to be the blairites and centrists trying to get another referendum.

Must be tempting though if you’re the opposition, and the Conservatives are responsible for the referendum and now imploding and making such a mess of Brexit, not to just sit back and let them do it.
There are plenty of Labour MPs who are pro-Brexit too.

bonerp

812 posts

239 months

Friday 25th January 2019
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I'm more concerned about JC becoming Prime Minister and labour running the country than Brexit.

SpeckledJim

31,608 posts

253 months

Friday 25th January 2019
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bonerp said:
I'm more concerned about JC becoming Prime Minister and labour running the country than Brexit.
DUP to the rescue!

(Sentences you never thought you'd say, No. 4)
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