Policeman in Trouble for Using the Phase "Whiter than White"
Discussion
smn159 said:
Russian Troll Bot said:
Did you miss the quote from the IPOC in the article?
Nope
Halb said:
What actually happened:1. Teacher would teach "baa baa black sheep"... then hold up different coloured cards and the kids are meant to replace black with whatever coloured card the teacher was holding. I.E. a yellow card meant "baa baa yellow sheep". It was about teaching word substitution and colours in the same lesson.
2. Kid tries to explain this to Gammon dad, doesn't quite manage it due to the fact the kids a 5 yr old and the dad hasn't even got that mental capacity.
3. Gammon dad has completely innacurate rant on DailyMail.com.
4. Daily Mail prints story about "Baa Baa Black Sheep Banned in Schools, Political Safety Gone Maddzzzzz" which has no bearing on what happened in step 1.
5 Daily Mail readers, not being the brightest buttons on the shirt believe and propagate the myth.
The sad part is, it was a good method for learning they now aren't permitted to use because of the potential media backlash.
Moonhawk said:
He's nailed it...A non-b
d white person who says "whiter than white" is vanishingly unlikely to be thinking about race. A black person who is used to being racially abused is quite likely to make the comparison between "white" being used to mean clean or pure and "white" also being a racial term. Not rocket science. A considerate speaker thinks about what his audience is going to hear. Suspension for just saying "whiter than white" clumsily? Custard ...
Vaguely related, there was a programme on the radio this weekend in which a black academic was making the assumption that women who bleached their hair blonde were trying to make themselves more white. That might be true for a woman who didn't consider themselves white, but it is the last thing I'd expect to be motivating a white woman, consciously or subconsciously. Becoming "more white" doesn't mean anything to whites, except for a small group of nutters. For whites blondness is seen as "sexy and fun" ... but if you scrape the surface it's really more about "thick and child-like". So think kiddy fiddling, not racial supremacy.
The takeway is that it's interesting how the meaning we attach to simple things like commonly-used phrases or changing your hair colour varies based on your sense of identity and experience.
d white person who says "whiter than white" is vanishingly unlikely to be thinking about race. A black person who is used to being racially abused is quite likely to make the comparison between "white" being used to mean clean or pure and "white" also being a racial term. Not rocket science. A considerate speaker thinks about what his audience is going to hear. Suspension for just saying "whiter than white" clumsily? Custard ...Vaguely related, there was a programme on the radio this weekend in which a black academic was making the assumption that women who bleached their hair blonde were trying to make themselves more white. That might be true for a woman who didn't consider themselves white, but it is the last thing I'd expect to be motivating a white woman, consciously or subconsciously. Becoming "more white" doesn't mean anything to whites, except for a small group of nutters. For whites blondness is seen as "sexy and fun" ... but if you scrape the surface it's really more about "thick and child-like". So think kiddy fiddling, not racial supremacy.
The takeway is that it's interesting how the meaning we attach to simple things like commonly-used phrases or changing your hair colour varies based on your sense of identity and experience.
captain_cynic said:
What actually happened:
1. Teacher would teach "baa baa black sheep"... then hold up different coloured cards and the kids are meant to replace black with whatever coloured card the teacher was holding. I.E. a yellow card meant "baa baa yellow sheep". It was about teaching word substitution and colours in the same lesson.
2. Kid tries to explain this to Gammon dad, doesn't quite manage it due to the fact the kids a 5 yr old and the dad hasn't even got that mental capacity.
3. Gammon dad has completely innacurate rant on DailyMail.com.
4. Daily Mail prints story about "Baa Baa Black Sheep Banned in Schools, Political Safety Gone Maddzzzzz" which has no bearing on what happened in step 1.
5 Daily Mail readers, not being the brightest buttons on the shirt believe and propagate the myth.
The sad part is, it was a good method for learning they now aren't permitted to use because of the potential media backlash.
'Gammon', 'Daily Mail', 'Daily Mail readers', 'Political Safety Gone Maddzzzzz'1. Teacher would teach "baa baa black sheep"... then hold up different coloured cards and the kids are meant to replace black with whatever coloured card the teacher was holding. I.E. a yellow card meant "baa baa yellow sheep". It was about teaching word substitution and colours in the same lesson.
2. Kid tries to explain this to Gammon dad, doesn't quite manage it due to the fact the kids a 5 yr old and the dad hasn't even got that mental capacity.
3. Gammon dad has completely innacurate rant on DailyMail.com.
4. Daily Mail prints story about "Baa Baa Black Sheep Banned in Schools, Political Safety Gone Maddzzzzz" which has no bearing on what happened in step 1.
5 Daily Mail readers, not being the brightest buttons on the shirt believe and propagate the myth.
The sad part is, it was a good method for learning they now aren't permitted to use because of the potential media backlash.
Snowflake BINGO!!!
Supercilious Sid said:
'Gammon', 'Daily Mail', 'Daily Mail readers', 'Political Safety Gone Maddzzzzz'
Snowflake BINGO!!!
Wow, you're easy to trigger.Snowflake BINGO!!!
Were you the one writing barely coherent complaints about this to the Mail. Sorry, not sorry if you're offended.
But its actually what happened. The whole mess started by using a good technique to teach both colours and word substitution.
captain_cynic said:
Supercilious Sid said:
'Gammon', 'Daily Mail', 'Daily Mail readers', 'Political Safety Gone Maddzzzzz'
Snowflake BINGO!!!
Wow, you're easy to trigger.Snowflake BINGO!!!
Were you the one writing barely coherent complaints about this to the Mail. Sorry, not sorry if you're offended.
But its actually what happened. The whole mess started by using a good technique to teach both colours and word substitution.
captain_cynic said:
Halb said:
What actually happened:1. Teacher would teach "baa baa black sheep"... then hold up different coloured cards and the kids are meant to replace black with whatever coloured card the teacher was holding. I.E. a yellow card meant "baa baa yellow sheep". It was about teaching word substitution and colours in the same lesson.
2. Kid tries to explain this to Gammon dad, doesn't quite manage it due to the fact the kids a 5 yr old and the dad hasn't even got that mental capacity.
3. Gammon dad has completely innacurate rant on DailyMail.com.
4. Daily Mail prints story about "Baa Baa Black Sheep Banned in Schools, Political Safety Gone Maddzzzzz" which has no bearing on what happened in step 1.
5 Daily Mail readers, not being the brightest buttons on the shirt believe and propagate the myth.
The sad part is, it was a good method for learning they now aren't permitted to use because of the potential media backlash.
As a nod to the above, the word/colour substitution is now used during "Riding Along on a Big Tractor" but there are different colours of tractor available with flash cards available. And you have to remember that the red tractor is faster than all the others.
captain_cynic said:
Supercilious Sid said:
'Gammon', 'Daily Mail', 'Daily Mail readers', 'Political Safety Gone Maddzzzzz'
Snowflake BINGO!!!
Wow, you're easy to trigger.Snowflake BINGO!!!
Were you the one writing barely coherent complaints about this to the Mail. Sorry, not sorry if you're offended.
But its actually what happened. The whole mess started by using a good technique to teach both colours and word substitution.
Each dawn brings new outrages to further increase public anger. There is a very simple reason for this which so far seems not to have been investigated. Somewhere, well hidden away from public gaze and beyond retribution or even light questioning, there are a very few individuals with access to high level opinion-formers and radical impulses. They have disproportionate influence and are keen empire builders. They gradually self-qualify for important 'committee' based quangos without actually seeing the light of day. A pox on them.
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