Policeman in Trouble for Using the Phase "Whiter than White"

Policeman in Trouble for Using the Phase "Whiter than White"

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crankedup

25,764 posts

242 months

Monday 17th September 2018
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Are we still allowed to play the ‘Procol Harem’ single, A whiter shade of pale?

anonymous-user

53 months

Monday 17th September 2018
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crankedup said:
Are we still allowed to play the ‘Procol Harem’ single, A whiter shade of pale?
Only on headphones for personal use.

Pothole

34,367 posts

281 months

Monday 17th September 2018
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FiF said:
Red 4 said:
You want a copy of the letter allegedly sent to this poster's nan in the 90's ?

Only in the land of PH ... (You should get out more).
But it is Pothole, don't forget that, been in the "put in sack, hit with sticks repeatedly" list since the millennium.
Come on, FGS. Plenty of these supposed missives have been told off and quoted from over the decades. Has ANYONE on here ever actually seen one?

ETA: This story from the BBC suggests that progress had been made by 2000 at least:


Edited by Pothole on Monday 17th September 15:53

Pothole

34,367 posts

281 months

Monday 17th September 2018
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crankedup said:
Are we still allowed to play the ‘Procol Harem’ single, A whiter shade of pale?
Only the Procul HarUm one.

irocfan

40,156 posts

189 months

Monday 17th September 2018
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gizlaroc said:
del mar said:
I have come across Bah Bah wooly sheep.
What you get up to in your own time is up to you mate.
rofl

crankedup

25,764 posts

242 months

Monday 17th September 2018
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Pothole said:
crankedup said:
Are we still allowed to play the ‘Procol Harem’ single, A whiter shade of pale?
Only the Procul HarUm one.
laugh

So the tribute band need to delist from thier gig list. wink

smn159

12,448 posts

216 months

Monday 17th September 2018
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WinstonWolf said:
smn159 said:
Russian Troll Bot said:
So given they've confirmed an Officer is being investigated for an "alleged use of language deliberately intended to offend and that had racist undertones." I'm not sure where the made up part comes from?
Do you think that statement supports the overall 'Political Correctness gone mad' tone of the article then?

The use of racist language deliberately intended to offend by a senior officer should be investigated, I would have though?
Can you quote this "deliberately offensive language" as you seem to be reading something completely unrelated...
No, can you?

The article is spun to suggest that the guy said something fairly innocent and in being investigated just because of that. The article has no named sources, no direct quotes, no context... A reasonable person might conclude that it is written in that way to play to the prejudices of the readers... unless you have more information?


wjb

5,100 posts

130 months

Monday 17th September 2018
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It doesn't take a genius to work out that there's more to this than the headline.

I'll pick a scenario out of the air...

Senior officer doing a briefing says "we need to be whiter than white" then immediately follows it up with "easier said than done eh" directed at the only black/Asian officer in the room.

Now I'm not saying for one second this is what happened, but something like that would surely land you in trouble.

And to dismiss it without knowing the full facts (as is often the case on here) is a bit silly.

FiF

43,965 posts

250 months

Monday 17th September 2018
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Pothole said:
FiF said:
Red 4 said:
You want a copy of the letter allegedly sent to this poster's nan in the 90's ?

Only in the land of PH ... (You should get out more).
But it is Pothole, don't forget that, been in the "put in sack, hit with sticks repeatedly" list since the millennium.
Come on, FGS. Plenty of these supposed missives have been told off and quoted from over the decades. Has ANYONE on here ever actually seen one?

ETA: This story from the BBC suggests that progress had been made by 2000 at least:


Edited by Pothole on Monday 17th September 15:53
So you're in the pub with some acquaintances or colleagues or maybe even mates, and one of them recounts a story from university days twenty years or more back, do you turn round and ask for documentary evidence?

Maybe you do.

gizlaroc

17,251 posts

223 months

Monday 17th September 2018
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FiF said:
So you're in the pub with some acquaintances or colleagues or maybe even mates, and one of them recounts a story from university days twenty years or more back, do you turn round and ask for documentary evidence?

Maybe you do.
Pub?? Mates???

C'mon now.

mx5nut

5,404 posts

81 months

Monday 17th September 2018
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wjb said:
It doesn't take a genius to work out that there's more to this than the headline.

I'll pick a scenario out of the air...

Senior officer doing a briefing says "we need to be whiter than white" then immediately follows it up with "easier said than done eh" directed at the only black/Asian officer in the room.

Now I'm not saying for one second this is what happened, but something like that would surely land you in trouble.

And to dismiss it without knowing the full facts (as is often the case on here) is a bit silly.
yes

There's always more to it - and it always comes out quietly once the easily outraged "pc gone mad" masses have move on to something else.

FiF

43,965 posts

250 months

Monday 17th September 2018
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gizlaroc said:
FiF said:
So you're in the pub with some acquaintances or colleagues or maybe even mates, and one of them recounts a story from university days twenty years or more back, do you turn round and ask for documentary evidence?

Maybe you do.
Pub?? Mates???

C'mon now.
Yes, fair cop, thought I'd give him the benefit, just in the spirit of being sociable.

dromond

689 posts

219 months

Monday 17th September 2018
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This whole thread is a darker shade of pale.. beige... Gar beige.

WinstonWolf

72,857 posts

238 months

Tuesday 18th September 2018
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smn159 said:
WinstonWolf said:
smn159 said:
Russian Troll Bot said:
So given they've confirmed an Officer is being investigated for an "alleged use of language deliberately intended to offend and that had racist undertones." I'm not sure where the made up part comes from?
Do you think that statement supports the overall 'Political Correctness gone mad' tone of the article then?

The use of racist language deliberately intended to offend by a senior officer should be investigated, I would have though?
Can you quote this "deliberately offensive language" as you seem to be reading something completely unrelated...
No, can you?

The article is spun to suggest that the guy said something fairly innocent and in being investigated just because of that. The article has no named sources, no direct quotes, no context... A reasonable person might conclude that it is written in that way to play to the prejudices of the readers... unless you have more information?
What part is 'spun'? The phrase he's being investigated for is "whiter than white". I'm assuming this is the 'deliberately offensive' language you're referring to?

Pothole

34,367 posts

281 months

Tuesday 18th September 2018
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WinstonWolf said:
What part is 'spun'? The phrase he's being investigated for is "whiter than white". I'm assuming this is the 'deliberately offensive' language you're referring to?
The phrase is a very small part of what he's apparently being investigated for, according to the body of the article, but it has been inflated, or spun if you like, to appear to be the main, or even sole thing the investigation is covering.

The irony and hypocrisy of someone in professional standards apparently holding themselves to a standard they now stand accused of majorly failing to achieve seems to have been lost on the Wail and its fanbois, too!

WinstonWolf

72,857 posts

238 months

Tuesday 18th September 2018
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Pothole said:
WinstonWolf said:
What part is 'spun'? The phrase he's being investigated for is "whiter than white". I'm assuming this is the 'deliberately offensive' language you're referring to?
The phrase is a very small part of what he's apparently being investigated for, according to the body of the article, but it has been inflated, or spun if you like, to appear to be the main, or even sole thing the investigation is covering.

The irony and hypocrisy of someone in professional standards apparently holding themselves to a standard they now stand accused of majorly failing to achieve seems to have been lost on the Wail and its fanbois, too!
Should the use of that phrase form *any* part of any taxpayer funded investigation?


Pothole

34,367 posts

281 months

Tuesday 18th September 2018
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WinstonWolf said:
Should the use of that phrase form *any* part of any taxpayer funded investigation?
Are you asking my opinion? If so, I'd say it depends on the context and who has complained about its use. Neither you nor I set the SOPs and/or professional standards for any of the 43 UK Police forces, so if you're asking me whether I think it should be covered in same, I haven't a clue.

As for the pathetic attempt at emotive language, no investigation of this type should be hampered or tempered in any way by it being publicly funded. How else do you suggest such an investigation should be funded?

ETA: 44, really but the BTP is not directly Home Office funded...

Edited by Pothole on Tuesday 18th September 15:01

Digger

14,591 posts

190 months

Tuesday 18th September 2018
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So when I’m asked how I would like my coffee, how much longer will I be able to reply “black please . . . like my women”?

Pothole

34,367 posts

281 months

Tuesday 18th September 2018
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Digger said:
So when I’m asked how I would like my coffee, how much longer will I be able to reply “black please . . . like my women”?


Hmmm, interesting isn't it?

The same question applied to the bread you like with your fry up: "Thick, white and soft...like my women" only ticks the single bigotry box!

Red 4

10,744 posts

186 months

Tuesday 18th September 2018
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Pothole said:
43 UK Police forces


ETA: 44, really but the BTP is not directly Home Office funded...

Edited by Pothole on Tuesday 18th September 15:01
45 in the UK.

43 in E&W.

You also forgot Mod Plod and CNC.

Just saying ...

And if you want to be really pedantic there are also a small number of Ports Police and other "private" police forces.