Climate change - the POLITICAL debate. (Vol 5)
Discussion
El stovey said:
Classic conspiracy theory.
You’re the unblinkered one that can see the truth?
They’re all in on it, science the government, other parties?
You’re exposing the fake news with your alternative facts?
Do you walk on four legs, wear a woollen gimp suit and occasionally shout Baaa? I wish I had customers like you. You’re the unblinkered one that can see the truth?
They’re all in on it, science the government, other parties?
You’re exposing the fake news with your alternative facts?
wc98 said:
strange you didn't quote what i thought was the most pertinent section to the debate on here 
Scientists collectively risk losing credibility and authority in part because of prominent examples of poor practice, but also because many are guilty of ultracrepidation: acting as if their stature in one domain makes them authoritative in others. Science is “show me,” not “trust me[/b].”32 [b]The example of 107 Nobel laureates – mostly in areas unrelated to genetics, agriculture, ecology, or public health – endorsing one side of the genetically modified organisms in food argument as “scientific”33 is a visible example of prestige and uninformed consensus conflated with evidence. As G.K. Chesterton wrote: “Fallacies do not cease to be fallacies because they become fashions.”34
And still nothing about Climate Science - or even a hint thereof Scientists collectively risk losing credibility and authority in part because of prominent examples of poor practice, but also because many are guilty of ultracrepidation: acting as if their stature in one domain makes them authoritative in others. Science is “show me,” not “trust me[/b].”32 [b]The example of 107 Nobel laureates – mostly in areas unrelated to genetics, agriculture, ecology, or public health – endorsing one side of the genetically modified organisms in food argument as “scientific”33 is a visible example of prestige and uninformed consensus conflated with evidence. As G.K. Chesterton wrote: “Fallacies do not cease to be fallacies because they become fashions.”34
Were you too busy toning up in the gym?
Strange you didn't start listing those thousands of members worldwide who disagree with the committees of institutions they are members of.
fakenews said:
And I've switched off immediately...
Are you so blinkered and naive to not question a politically agreed consensus backed up by government funding, poor data and Institutions and other parties (even Countries) on the take? You really need to get out more.
don't take es to seriously, he pops in to poke fun for a bit, not take part in any debate. he couldn't tell you the physical mechanism that will allow co2 live up to alarmist claims without googling it right now. i think turbobloke must have ran over his cat a while back and ever since he has stalked him on this thread Are you so blinkered and naive to not question a politically agreed consensus backed up by government funding, poor data and Institutions and other parties (even Countries) on the take? You really need to get out more.
fakenews said:
El stovey said:
Classic conspiracy theory.
You’re the unblinkered one that can see the truth?
They’re all in on it, science the government, other parties?
You’re exposing the fake news with your alternative facts?
Do you walk on four legs, wear a woollen gimp suit and occasionally shout Baaa? I wish I had customers like you. You’re the unblinkered one that can see the truth?
They’re all in on it, science the government, other parties?
You’re exposing the fake news with your alternative facts?
LoonyTunes said:
And still nothing about Climate Science - or even a hint thereof
Were you too busy toning up in the gym?
Strange you didn't start listing those thousands of members worldwide who disagree with the committees of institutions they are members of.
haven't been to a gym for over ten years and don't have time to compile meaningless lists. you know as well as i do that not all members of your listed institutions support the consensus. there would be no point making a list of them.maybe back when i was 10 and into top trumps Were you too busy toning up in the gym?
Strange you didn't start listing those thousands of members worldwide who disagree with the committees of institutions they are members of.
wc98 said:
LoonyTunes said:
And still nothing about Climate Science - or even a hint thereof
Were you too busy toning up in the gym?
Strange you didn't start listing those thousands of members worldwide who disagree with the committees of institutions they are members of.
haven't been to a gym for over ten years and don't have time to compile meaningless lists. you know as well as i do that not all members of your listed institutions support the consensus. there would be no point making a list of them.maybe back when i was 10 and into top trumps Were you too busy toning up in the gym?
Strange you didn't start listing those thousands of members worldwide who disagree with the committees of institutions they are members of.
So quote a sample from the hundreds of thousands of members of scientific institutions worldwide.
Surely two dozen isn't too much to ask?
With This Staff said:
The 'science' has been conducted in a shoddy manner - not a lot of people know that.
Despite the baying from the cheaper seats!
but at least it gives us a talking point. it makes me happy knowing so many highly intelligent wealthy individuals that obviously know far better are willing to even respond to a moron that doesn't even work for a living like me. i feel truly blessed they spend so much of their time posting replies to my obviously wrong opinion Despite the baying from the cheaper seats!
wc98 said:
With This Staff said:
The 'science' has been conducted in a shoddy manner - not a lot of people know that.
Despite the baying from the cheaper seats!
but at least it gives us a talking point. it makes me happy knowing so many highly intelligent wealthy individuals that obviously know far better are willing to even respond to a moron that doesn't even work for a living like me. i feel truly blessed they spend so much of their time posting replies to my obviously wrong opinion Despite the baying from the cheaper seats!
LoonyTunes said:
So quote a sample from the hundreds of thousands of members of scientific institutions worldwide.
Of which a large majority of those institutions are subscription paid for memberships. Being associated with such an institution helps careers develop etc. That's the point of it.The institutions political view point on a subject matter does not represent the actual opinions of all of its members.
As I and others have said before.
stew-STR160 said:
LoonyTunes said:
So quote a sample from the hundreds of thousands of members of scientific institutions worldwide.
Of which a large majority of those institutions are subscription paid for memberships. Being associated with such an institution helps careers develop etc. That's the point of it.Publish false data if it conflicts with the consensus etc...
Are you on my list? Only I think I see an opening.
LoonyTunes said:
With This Staff said:
LoonyTunes said:
With This Staff said:
You enjoy inflicting pain on those with limited mental faculties?
Thought so!
We're agreed then, this lot have "limited mental faculties"?Thought so!
LoonyTunes said:
stew-STR160 said:
LoonyTunes said:
So quote a sample from the hundreds of thousands of members of scientific institutions worldwide.
Of which a large majority of those institutions are subscription paid for memberships. Being associated with such an institution helps careers develop etc. That's the point of it.Publish false data if it conflicts with the consensus etc...
Are you on my list? Only I think I see an opening.
Where was conspiracy mentioned or hinted in my comment? It wasn't.
If you are unable to comprehend that not every member, paid for subscription or otherwise, of every institution does not necessarily agree with a political viewpoint of that ogranisation, then you really need some help.
You're asking for data which belongs in the science thread, of which there appears to be plenty, if you are able to draw yourself away from creating another list...
I won't hold my breath.
PRTVR said:
durbster said:
PRTVR said:
I do occasionally, it's fun with my Greenpeace card carrying friends, what's surprising is how little they actually understand about it and quickly default to an appeal to authority.
https://www.smh.com.au/environment/climate-change/...
We are not alone.. one in 5 Australians believe climate change is a hoax.
Of course. The propaganda engine has been running for some time and many have fallen for it.https://www.smh.com.au/environment/climate-change/...
We are not alone.. one in 5 Australians believe climate change is a hoax.
One of many strawman arguments you've got from the aforementioned propaganda.
stew-STR160 said:
LoonyTunes said:
stew-STR160 said:
LoonyTunes said:
So quote a sample from the hundreds of thousands of members of scientific institutions worldwide.
Of which a large majority of those institutions are subscription paid for memberships. Being associated with such an institution helps careers develop etc. That's the point of it.Publish false data if it conflicts with the consensus etc...
Are you on my list? Only I think I see an opening.
Where was conspiracy mentioned or hinted in my comment? It wasn't.
If you are unable to comprehend that not every member, paid for subscription or otherwise, of every institution does not necessarily agree with a political viewpoint of that ogranisation, then you really need some help.
You're asking for data which belongs in the science thread, of which there appears to be plenty, if you are able to draw yourself away from creating another list...
I won't hold my breath.
Back to my lunch.
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