Climate change - the POLITICAL debate. (Vol 5)

[robinessex]

Climate change protesters blockade government energy department

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-46172661

Probably the usual bunch of anarchists who protest about anything. Except their benefits of course!!

[gadgetmac]

zygalski said:

Bit of an unhealthy obsession with the BBC going on.

I'm not sure even therapy would help at this point.

[dickymint]

gadgetmac said:

zygalski said:

Bit of an unhealthy obsession with the BBC going on.

I'm not sure even therapy would help at this point.

At least a half a dozen times you've posted since Zygalski posted that!! Top Trolling well done

[gadgetmac]

dickymint said:

gadgetmac said:

zygalski said:

Bit of an unhealthy obsession with the BBC going on.

I'm not sure even therapy would help at this point.

At least a half a dozen times you've posted since Zygalski posted that!! Top Trolling well done

Yep and every one has been a real zinger especially the letter from Lindzen's fellow Climate Scientists to the US President.

Nuts well and truly kicked there.

But top trolling on congratulating me on my trolling.

[dickymint]

gadgetmac said:

dickymint said:

gadgetmac said:

zygalski said:

Bit of an unhealthy obsession with the BBC going on.

I'm not sure even therapy would help at this point.

At least a half a dozen times you've posted since Zygalski posted that!! Top Trolling well done

Yep and every one has been a real zinger especially the letter from Lindzen's fellow Climate Scientists to the US President.

Nuts well and truly kicked there.

But top trolling on congratulating me on my trolling.

[turbobloke]

Not So Happy Anniversary Climate Change Act - Now A Troubled Ten Year Old

GWPF said:

There's a new report by Rupert Darwall which catalogues the extraordinary failings of this terrible Act, which has worsened fuel poverty, eroded Britain's industrial base and comes with an enormous price tag of over £300 billion.

[robinessex]

Meanwhile, it seems AG & CC is off the hook re Antarctica because they’ve discovered something else!!! Opps !!

South Pole: Rock 'hotspot' causes ice sheet to sag

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-462...

[fakenews]

Why won't these fking polar bears die?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-63...

Awkward.

[robinessex]

'Cut lamb and beef' to fight climate change

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-462...

The number of sheep and cattle in the UK should be reduced by between a fifth and a half to help combat climate change, a report says.
The shift is needed, the government’s advisory Committee on Climate Change (CCC) maintains, because beef and lamb produce most farm greenhouse gases.....continues

Haribo of on one of his more tenuous rants.

[Jinx]

fakenews said:

Why won't these fking polar bears die?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-63...

Awkward.

How much extra greenhouse gases have been produced by these additional polar bears? Heck if they want us to cut down on useful animals (meat) how about we cut down on those that do nothing for us?

No I am not being serious...

[wc98]

Jinx said:

How much extra greenhouse gases have been produced by these additional polar bears? Heck if they want us to cut down on useful animals (meat) how about we cut down on those that do nothing for us?

No I am not being serious...

polar bear steak ? mmmmm

[Einion Yrth]

wc98 said:

Jinx said:

How much extra greenhouse gases have been produced by these additional polar bears? Heck if they want us to cut down on useful animals (meat) how about we cut down on those that do nothing for us?

No I am not being serious...

polar bear steak ? mmmmm

I'd advise against eating the liver.

[WelshChris]

robinessex said:

Climate change protesters blockade government energy department

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-46172661

Probably the usual bunch of anarchists who protest about anything. Except their benefits of course!!

Gail Bradbrook - a mother of two from Stroud - said: “I want the planet protected for my children."

Serial protester - https://www.facebook.com/gail.bradbrook

[jshell]

robinessex said:

Meanwhile, it seems AG & CC is off the hook re Antarctica because they’ve discovered something else!!! Opps !!

South Pole: Rock 'hotspot' causes ice sheet to sag

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-462...

There're actually volcanoes under the Western ice sheet of Antarctica. Nothing to see, honest!

https://www.sciencenewsforstudents.org/article/gia...

[traxx]

It’s record Nov cold in America

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-11-15/november...

[dickymint]

traxx said:

It’s record Nov cold in America

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-11-15/november...

Damart and candles all sold out!

[turbobloke]

dickymint said:

traxx said:

It’s record Nov cold in America

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-11-15/november...

Damart and candles all sold out!

[wc98]

gadgetmac said:

how many on that list peer review papers that are published in nature ? i am sure you could find out,lists being your thing only trouble is yet another alarmist paper is shown to be making extraordinary claims that don't stand up to scrutiny . nic lewis strikes yet again. you would think by now after all the maulings climate scientists attempting to use statisticshave had, they would enlist the help of professionals in the field in regard to peer review of their often "novel" methods and even more often misappropriate use of statistical tools for purposes they were never intended to be used for, but it seems not. oh well, how sad, never mind.

Widely Reported Alarming Ocean Warming Study Is Wrong

In general terms, if [Keeling] is only saying that they acknowledge that their study underestimated the uncertainty in their ocean heat uptake estimate, that is not enough. They should also acknowledge that another consequence of their mishandling of the treatment of uncertainty was that their central estimate of ocean heat uptake was overstated by approximately 30%.

So far as I can tell (from statements on their websites), the authors hope to alter an assumption that affects one aspect (that relating to constancy of the land oxygen-carbon exchange ratio) of the input data used to derive their ocean heat uptake estimate, in such a way that will increase its level, when correctly calculated, to a value close to their originally published estimate. It would seem a little surprising that a valid adjustment made after publication happened, conveniently, to have the effect of almost cancelling a statistical methods error.

Unfortunately their work involves many assumptions where there is scope for subjective choices by the authors, so it is difficult to validate those assumptions. I would hope that Nature will have any changes made by the authors to their assumptions examined carefully by peer reviewers who are experts in the same field as Resplandy and Keeling, as well as by statistically expert peer reviewers. However, the failure of the original peer review and editorial process to pick up the fairly obvious statistical problems in the original paper do not engender confidence in Nature’s approach.
http://ifttt.itbehere.com/2018/11/14/widely-report...

[turbobloke]

It got through pal review easily enough so the system is working

[wc98]

turbobloke said:

It got through pal review easily enough so the system is working

given nic's last paragraph in my post i don't think he realises natures peer review method engenders lots of confidence in those submitting alarmist papers,confidence no one reviewing them will care about possible errors never mind highlight them. i doubt those doing the peer review looked past the scary headline prior to rubber stamping the paper.

to be fair apparently the authors have been pretty quick in acknowledging issues (not all) but i doubt the walk back will include much air time on broadcast media.the washington post did run it to their credit,despite being full on alarmist in general outlook, so possibly some progress.