Climate change - the POLITICAL debate. (Vol 5)
Discussion
gadgetmac said:
robinessex said:
Meanwhile, the Beeb propoganda machine rolls on
Satellites saw rapid Greenland ice loss
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-469...
Yes, quickly, drop them a line telling them we don't want to hear what the scientists have concluded in their study published in Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences says.Satellites saw rapid Greenland ice loss
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-469...
We'd much rather hear what the failed meteorologist Anthony Watts has to say instead.
Maybe they'll do a daily piece from him in their Science section?
Fingers crossed.
ks. The Graces (Gravity Recovery and Climate Experiment) satellite stopped working in 2016 !! The replacement(s) aren't on line yet!!Glad to see Vinerism falling heavily across many parts of the UK today.
And just in case we needed to be reminded of the enormous success of climate models in predicting the future climate, Dr David Viner, from the CRU, erstwhile soothsayer, climate modeller extraordinaire and all round fktard predicted in 2000 that within a few years winter snowfall will become 'a very rare and exciting event.' 'Children just aren't going to know what snow is'.
David Parker (Hadley Centre for Climate Prediction and Research) predicted that ultimately British children could ultimately only have virtual experience of snow. And that via the internet they might eventually feel virtual cold.
No doubt one of the religious zealots will be along shortly and suggest that their predictions were as skilful as the models used, and that the trend is clear.
And just in case we needed to be reminded of the enormous success of climate models in predicting the future climate, Dr David Viner, from the CRU, erstwhile soothsayer, climate modeller extraordinaire and all round f
ktard predicted in 2000 that within a few years winter snowfall will become 'a very rare and exciting event.' 'Children just aren't going to know what snow is'. David Parker (Hadley Centre for Climate Prediction and Research) predicted that ultimately British children could ultimately only have virtual experience of snow. And that via the internet they might eventually feel virtual cold.
No doubt one of the religious zealots will be along shortly and suggest that their predictions were as skilful as the models used, and that the trend is clear.
Another
The battle on the frontline of climate change in Mali
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/the-reporters-46921487
The battle on the frontline of climate change in Mali
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/the-reporters-46921487
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-469...
"A US research team (note: not made up of professors from the PH climate threads) examined ice cores from western Greenland that record the behaviour of the ice sheet dating back to 1650.
The group's analysis indicated that an uptick in melting began soon after the onset of industrial-era Arctic warming in the mid-1800s, and that the decade 2004-2013 experienced more sustained and intense melting than any other 10-year period in the 350-year record."
"A US research team (note: not made up of professors from the PH climate threads) examined ice cores from western Greenland that record the behaviour of the ice sheet dating back to 1650.
The group's analysis indicated that an uptick in melting began soon after the onset of industrial-era Arctic warming in the mid-1800s, and that the decade 2004-2013 experienced more sustained and intense melting than any other 10-year period in the 350-year record."
gadgetmac said:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-469...
"A US research team (note: not made up of professors from the PH climate threads) examined ice cores from western Greenland that record the behaviour of the ice sheet dating back to 1650.
The group's analysis indicated that an uptick in melting began soon after the onset of industrial-era Arctic warming in the mid-1800s, and that the decade 2004-2013 experienced more sustained and intense melting than any other 10-year period in the 350-year record."
Another quote"A US research team (note: not made up of professors from the PH climate threads) examined ice cores from western Greenland that record the behaviour of the ice sheet dating back to 1650.
The group's analysis indicated that an uptick in melting began soon after the onset of industrial-era Arctic warming in the mid-1800s, and that the decade 2004-2013 experienced more sustained and intense melting than any other 10-year period in the 350-year record."
"The researchers BELIEVE the melting in south-west Greenland is a combination of climate change and conditions brought on by the NAO (North Atlantic Oscillation ).
Let's toss a coin then !!
Diderot said:
Glad to see Vinerism falling heavily across many parts of the UK today.
And just in case we needed to be reminded of the enormous success of climate models in predicting the future climate, Dr David Viner, from the CRU, erstwhile soothsayer, climate modeller extraordinaire and all round fktard predicted in 2000 that within a few years winter snowfall will become 'a very rare and exciting event.' 'Children just aren't going to know what snow is'.
David Parker (Hadley Centre for Climate Prediction and Research) predicted that ultimately British children could ultimately only have virtual experience of snow. And that via the internet they might eventually feel virtual cold.
No doubt one of the religious zealots will be along shortly and suggest that their predictions were as skilful as the models used, and that the trend is clear.
In the 5 favourite denier strategies that comes under cherry picking with a side order of slight misrepresentation. And just in case we needed to be reminded of the enormous success of climate models in predicting the future climate, Dr David Viner, from the CRU, erstwhile soothsayer, climate modeller extraordinaire and all round f
ktard predicted in 2000 that within a few years winter snowfall will become 'a very rare and exciting event.' 'Children just aren't going to know what snow is'. David Parker (Hadley Centre for Climate Prediction and Research) predicted that ultimately British children could ultimately only have virtual experience of snow. And that via the internet they might eventually feel virtual cold.
No doubt one of the religious zealots will be along shortly and suggest that their predictions were as skilful as the models used, and that the trend is clear.
One scientist out of tens of thousands, talking about an unspecified time in the future, in an incident that happened almost 20 years ago.
Well that's all the proof I need!
President Trump Tweets About Snow… “Be careful and try staying in your house,” he said. “Large parts of the Country are suffering from tremendous amounts of snow and near record setting cold. Amazing how big this system is. Wouldn’t be bad to have a little of that good old fashioned Global Warming right now!" ... Science “Journalist” Has Meltdown!
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2019/01/22/president-t...
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2019/01/22/president-t...
Don't laugh said:
The government shutdown is preventing the Climatariat from declaring that the past four years have been the four warmest years on record… I don’t care who you are, that’s funny right there!
gadgetmac said:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-469...
"A US research team (note: not made up of professors from the PH climate threads) examined ice cores from western Greenland that record the behaviour of the ice sheet dating back to 1650.
The group's analysis indicated that an uptick in melting began soon after the onset of industrial-era Arctic warming in the mid-1800s, and that the decade 2004-2013 experienced more sustained and intense melting than any other 10-year period in the 350-year record."
So I assume there has been a subsequent rise in sea level then."A US research team (note: not made up of professors from the PH climate threads) examined ice cores from western Greenland that record the behaviour of the ice sheet dating back to 1650.
The group's analysis indicated that an uptick in melting began soon after the onset of industrial-era Arctic warming in the mid-1800s, and that the decade 2004-2013 experienced more sustained and intense melting than any other 10-year period in the 350-year record."
Any record of this ?
gadgetmac said:
Diderot said:
Glad to see Vinerism falling heavily across many parts of the UK today.
And just in case we needed to be reminded of the enormous success of climate models in predicting the future climate, Dr David Viner, from the CRU, erstwhile soothsayer, climate modeller extraordinaire and all round fktard predicted in 2000 that within a few years winter snowfall will become 'a very rare and exciting event.' 'Children just aren't going to know what snow is'.
David Parker (Hadley Centre for Climate Prediction and Research) predicted that ultimately British children could ultimately only have virtual experience of snow. And that via the internet they might eventually feel virtual cold.
No doubt one of the religious zealots will be along shortly and suggest that their predictions were as skilful as the models used, and that the trend is clear.
In the 5 favourite denier strategies that comes under cherry picking with a side order of slight misrepresentation. And just in case we needed to be reminded of the enormous success of climate models in predicting the future climate, Dr David Viner, from the CRU, erstwhile soothsayer, climate modeller extraordinaire and all round f
ktard predicted in 2000 that within a few years winter snowfall will become 'a very rare and exciting event.' 'Children just aren't going to know what snow is'. David Parker (Hadley Centre for Climate Prediction and Research) predicted that ultimately British children could ultimately only have virtual experience of snow. And that via the internet they might eventually feel virtual cold.
No doubt one of the religious zealots will be along shortly and suggest that their predictions were as skilful as the models used, and that the trend is clear.
One scientist out of tens of thousands, talking about an unspecified time in the future, in an incident that happened almost 20 years ago.
Well that's all the proof I need!
Diderot said:
Where's the misrepresentation? Or can't you face the simple truth that Viner and Parker are berks?
but they are scientists , why don't you just believe them. says the man with a thousand quid bet on the arctic sea ice area , not extent,still being above 1 million square kilometres during summer in 3 years time 
Diderot said:
gadgetmac said:
Diderot said:
Glad to see Vinerism falling heavily across many parts of the UK today.
And just in case we needed to be reminded of the enormous success of climate models in predicting the future climate, Dr David Viner, from the CRU, erstwhile soothsayer, climate modeller extraordinaire and all round fktard predicted in 2000 that within a few years winter snowfall will become 'a very rare and exciting event.' 'Children just aren't going to know what snow is'.
David Parker (Hadley Centre for Climate Prediction and Research) predicted that ultimately British children could ultimately only have virtual experience of snow. And that via the internet they might eventually feel virtual cold.
No doubt one of the religious zealots will be along shortly and suggest that their predictions were as skilful as the models used, and that the trend is clear.
In the 5 favourite denier strategies that comes under cherry picking with a side order of slight misrepresentation. And just in case we needed to be reminded of the enormous success of climate models in predicting the future climate, Dr David Viner, from the CRU, erstwhile soothsayer, climate modeller extraordinaire and all round f
ktard predicted in 2000 that within a few years winter snowfall will become 'a very rare and exciting event.' 'Children just aren't going to know what snow is'. David Parker (Hadley Centre for Climate Prediction and Research) predicted that ultimately British children could ultimately only have virtual experience of snow. And that via the internet they might eventually feel virtual cold.
No doubt one of the religious zealots will be along shortly and suggest that their predictions were as skilful as the models used, and that the trend is clear.
One scientist out of tens of thousands, talking about an unspecified time in the future, in an incident that happened almost 20 years ago.
Well that's all the proof I need!
Of course there are berks among the tens of thousands of climate scientists but its a tiny percentage of the overall figure.
Of course almost 100% of the small (and dwindling all the time) denier scientists are berks.
gadgetmac said:
Diderot said:
Glad to see Vinerism falling heavily across many parts of the UK today.
In the 5 favourite denier strategies that comes under cherry picking with a side order of slight misrepresentation. One scientist out of tens of thousands, talking about an unspecified time in the future, in an incident that happened almost 20 years ago.
Well that's all the proof I need!
durbster said:
gadgetmac said:
Diderot said:
Glad to see Vinerism falling heavily across many parts of the UK today.
In the 5 favourite denier strategies that comes under cherry picking with a side order of slight misrepresentation. One scientist out of tens of thousands, talking about an unspecified time in the future, in an incident that happened almost 20 years ago.
Well that's all the proof I need!
V8 Fettler said:
durbster said:
gadgetmac said:
Diderot said:
Glad to see Vinerism falling heavily across many parts of the UK today.
In the 5 favourite denier strategies that comes under cherry picking with a side order of slight misrepresentation. One scientist out of tens of thousands, talking about an unspecified time in the future, in an incident that happened almost 20 years ago.
Well that's all the proof I need!
As the models show. Without exception.
And the vast majority of scientists actually in the field(s) agree.
As does EVERY Scientific institution on the face of the planet.
Unless you can name a dissenting one.
Go on then, I’ll wait.
Did somebody mention climate politics? While gullible / culpable leaders of western countries fret pointlessly about their emissionary position while increasing the energy cost burden on their poorest voters, China is thrusting ahead with new projects and investments in coal and gas.
"China financed more than a quarter of all coal plants announced outside the country last year according to a new report...As development banks scale back or completely halt their investment in coal-backed energy projects, China has emerged as a chief lender for such power plants."
Emily Feng, 22 January 2019
"China financed more than a quarter of all coal plants announced outside the country last year according to a new report...As development banks scale back or completely halt their investment in coal-backed energy projects, China has emerged as a chief lender for such power plants."
Emily Feng, 22 January 2019
gadgetmac said:
We keep pumping CO2 into the atmosphere, it keeps getting hotter.
As the models show. Without exception.
And the vast majority of scientists actually in the field(s) agree.
As does EVERY Scientific institution on the face of the planet.
Unless you can name a dissenting one.
Go on then, I’ll wait.
Funniest most laughable statement on here for ... well at least a day or two.As the models show. Without exception.
And the vast majority of scientists actually in the field(s) agree.
As does EVERY Scientific institution on the face of the planet.
Unless you can name a dissenting one.
Go on then, I’ll wait.
gadgetmac said:
We keep pumping CO2 into the atmosphere, it keeps getting hotter.
As the models show. Without exception.
And the vast majority of scientists actually in the field(s) agree.
As does EVERY Scientific institution on the face of the planet.
Unless you can name a dissenting one.
Cooling approx 1900-1910 and 1945-1975 or have the data diddlers managed to erase that lot already?As the models show. Without exception.
And the vast majority of scientists actually in the field(s) agree.
As does EVERY Scientific institution on the face of the planet.
Unless you can name a dissenting one.
No need to mention The Pause (just did anyway),
No comprehensive and accurate list of scientific institutions 'on the face of the planet' exists and nobody has surveyed all of them. Soundbite fail.
Edited by turbobloke on Tuesday 22 January 20:50
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