Climate change - the POLITICAL debate. (Vol 5)

[oilbethere]

deeps said:

robinessex said:

Climate strike: Schoolchildren protest over climate change

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-47250424

Pupils at schools around the UK have gone on strike as part of a global campaign for action on climate change.
Students around the country walked out of school to call on the government to declare a climate emergency and take active steps to tackle the problem.
"Save our planet" was the message chanted by thousands of people gathered in Parliament Square in London.
Organisers Youth Strike 4 Climate said protests were taking place in more than 60 towns and cities across the UK...........continues

I didn't know brain washing was now part of schools curriculum

The definition of indoctrination - instead of teaching children a theory it is presented as a scaremongering fact. The late 20th / early 21st century will go down in history as an extraordinary period where so few people fooled so many. Life is currently thriving, the planet is thriving because the climate is warm and optimum. When it cools the st will hit the fan and life will wither and die, as it does during glacial periods. Children are being taught the opposite of reality by teachers who have sold their souls and hopped aboard the great global warming gravy train.

On a positive note, when the establishment need to bring children into the debate it's a sure sign they are struggling with convincing the masses, and make no mistake this 'skiving' has been orchestrated by adults not children.

I find it a disgusting abuse of trust, through and through.

If these kids want to save the planet they should all volunteer to be sterilised.

[gadgetmac]

deeps said:

Now you have a 'you' too many, never mind.

It never gets old

[gadgetmac]

deeps said:

turbobloke said:

gadgetmac said:

turbobloke said:

Is there established (not conjectured) causality to humans in any global temperature trend up or down?

Yes or no as above.

The answer is probably yes as was discussed at length on here.

I can get you the link to the paper if you like?

Probably yes probably means conjecture therefore not established, The post you replied to acknowledged conjecture and sought more, thanks for confirming there is indeed nothing more available, However posting the question about a link has given some time for you to see what SkSc has to offer.

Bit of a gadget fail there! Think before you speak gadget, is an apt phrase always worth paying heed to. I was only saying yesterday, give them enough rope ...

There isn't anybody who "fails" as often as you Deeps with your quotes from denier blogs regurgitated by you as some kind of proof.

As for the term "probably" well if a cardiologists told you that your son will "probably" die if he doesn't have a heart operation I'm just glad I'm not your son hearing you quoting back to the cardiologist some quack from some blog or forum who told you that "probably" is just conjecture.

"Enough Rope"

[gadgetmac]

deeps said:

I find it a disgusting abuse of trust, through and through.

I find it refreshing that kids at school are actually listening to what their teachers and parents are actually teaching them and not what some weirdos on social media are blogging - there's hope for that generation yet.

[motco]

deeps said:

I find it a disgusting abuse of trust, through and through.

Children should not be used as propaganda by law

[gadgetmac]

motco said:

deeps said:

I find it a disgusting abuse of trust, through and through.

Children should not be used as propaganda by law

Correct.

Just because someone is not of voting age does not mean they don't have the right to say what they think or gently protest if they don't like what is being done. You don't join the human race at 18.

[motco]

gadgetmac said:

motco said:

deeps said:

I find it a disgusting abuse of trust, through and through.

Children should not be used as propaganda by law

Correct.

Just because someone is not of voting age does not mean they don't have the right to say what they think or gently protest if they don't like what is being done. You don't join the human race at 18.

I'm concerned in particular not by spotty teenagers, but toddlers in pushchairs decked in political colours and slogans.

[gadgetmac]

motco said:

gadgetmac said:

motco said:

deeps said:

I find it a disgusting abuse of trust, through and through.

Children should not be used as propaganda by law

Correct.

Just because someone is not of voting age does not mean they don't have the right to say what they think or gently protest if they don't like what is being done. You don't join the human race at 18.

I'm concerned in particular not by spotty teenagers, but toddlers in pushchairs decked in political colours and slogans.

It's like teaching your kids not to smoke from an early age.

Anyway, it winds the deniers up so it must doing something right

[motco]

gadgetmac said:

motco said:

gadgetmac said:

motco said:

deeps said:

I find it a disgusting abuse of trust, through and through.

Children should not be used as propaganda by law

Correct.

Just because someone is not of voting age does not mean they don't have the right to say what they think or gently protest if they don't like what is being done. You don't join the human race at 18.

I'm concerned in particular not by spotty teenagers, but toddlers in pushchairs decked in political colours and slogans.

It's like teaching your kids not to smoke from an early age.

Anyway, it winds the deniers up so it must doing something right

Both Adolf Hitler and Josef Stalin had similar child indoctrination plans.

[robinessex]

durbster said:

robinessex said:

I've got a graph as well:-



Opps!

Of course you have.

Except yours is clearly designed to mislead people and copied from a propaganda blog because that's all you have.

Oh, ok. here's another one then:-





Ooops again.!

[anonymous-user]

gadgetmac said:

It's like teaching your kids not to smoke from an early age.

Anyway, it winds the deniers up so it must doing something right

The deniers are funny.

The scientific community are in on it
The government are in on it
The media are in on it
Teachers and parents are in on it
Now they’re upset children are in on it.

It’s just a handful of people now that can’t see the truth and it’s making them upset at everyone else being brainwashed.

Don’t worry TB will be along soon to say the tide is turning

Edited by anonymous-user on Saturday 16th February 09:05

[robinessex]

Climate strike: Why are students striking and will it have an impact?

Are the UK's school strikes for climate change the moment that British youth finally wakes up to the "climate emergency"?
It may not represent a paradigm shift just yet, but the speed and scale of this young person's movement does make it feel more than a momentary splutter of impotent anger.
Ever since the then 15-year-old Swede Greta Thunberg decided to stop going to school on Fridays last year and instead protest outside the Swedish parliament, there has been a rapid expansion in similar activities in many parts of the world, especially in Europe....................continues

1. It's a day of skool, yippee !!!
2,. They were organised to go
3. Most don't give a toss about CC.
4. A family member is a teacher
5. I have 10 grandchildren.

Guess how I know about the above?

Edited by robinessex on Saturday 16th February 09:18

[gadgetmac]

motco said:

gadgetmac said:

motco said:

gadgetmac said:

motco said:

deeps said:

I find it a disgusting abuse of trust, through and through.

Children should not be used as propaganda by law

Correct.

Just because someone is not of voting age does not mean they don't have the right to say what they think or gently protest if they don't like what is being done. You don't join the human race at 18.

I'm concerned in particular not by spotty teenagers, but toddlers in pushchairs decked in political colours and slogans.

It's like teaching your kids not to smoke from an early age.

Anyway, it winds the deniers up so it must doing something right

Both Adolf Hitler and Josef Stalin had similar child indoctrination plans.

In that analogy deniers are in the Joseph (do nothing, it'll all be alright) Chamberlain role.

[gadgetmac]

robinessex said:

Climate strike: Why are students striking and will it have an impact?

Are the UK's school strikes for climate change the moment that British youth finally wakes up to the "climate emergency"?
It may not represent a paradigm shift just yet, but the speed and scale of this young person's movement does make it feel more than a momentary splutter of impotent anger.
Ever since the then 15-year-old Swede Greta Thunberg decided to stop going to school on Fridays last year and instead protest outside the Swedish parliament, there has been a rapid expansion in similar activities in many parts of the world, especially in Europe....................continues

1. It's a day of skool, yippee !!!
2,. They were organised to go
3. Most don't give a toss about CC.
4. A family member is a teacher
5. I have 10 grandchildren.

Guess how know about the above?

Watch it, Didirot will have you up on charges for spelling off as of.

As for the rest...

Good, it's a worthy cause.

[robinessex]

gadgetmac said:

robinessex said:

Climate strike: Why are students striking and will it have an impact?

Are the UK's school strikes for climate change the moment that British youth finally wakes up to the "climate emergency"?
It may not represent a paradigm shift just yet, but the speed and scale of this young person's movement does make it feel more than a momentary splutter of impotent anger.
Ever since the then 15-year-old Swede Greta Thunberg decided to stop going to school on Fridays last year and instead protest outside the Swedish parliament, there has been a rapid expansion in similar activities in many parts of the world, especially in Europe....................continues

1. It's a day of skool, yippee !!!
2,. They were organised to go
3. Most don't give a toss about CC.
4. A family member is a teacher
5. I have 10 grandchildren.

Guess how know about the above?

Watch it, Didirot will have you up on charges for spelling off as of.

As for the rest...

Good, it's a worthy cause.

Brainwashing propaganda. Will fizzle out when kids get more interested in other things. Not that they're interested anyway, a captive audience being lectured to. When I was at school, it was 'Ban the Bomb' mob.

[gadgetmac]

robinessex said:

gadgetmac said:

robinessex said:

Climate strike: Why are students striking and will it have an impact?

Are the UK's school strikes for climate change the moment that British youth finally wakes up to the "climate emergency"?
It may not represent a paradigm shift just yet, but the speed and scale of this young person's movement does make it feel more than a momentary splutter of impotent anger.
Ever since the then 15-year-old Swede Greta Thunberg decided to stop going to school on Fridays last year and instead protest outside the Swedish parliament, there has been a rapid expansion in similar activities in many parts of the world, especially in Europe....................continues

1. It's a day of skool, yippee !!!
2,. They were organised to go
3. Most don't give a toss about CC.
4. A family member is a teacher
5. I have 10 grandchildren.

Guess how know about the above?

Watch it, Didirot will have you up on charges for spelling off as of.

As for the rest...

Good, it's a worthy cause.

Brainwashing propaganda. Will fizzle out when kids get more interested in other things. Not that they're interested anyway, a captive audience being lectured to. When I was at school, it was 'Ban the Bomb' mob.

Or, it will stick with them for the rest of their lives. I wish I'd been lectured at school on the perils of smoking from an early age, it would have saved me a he'll of a lot of cash and "probably" a few health issues that have popped up.

Teaching kids Science and how to spot fake news is a good thing.

[PRTVR]

gadgetmac said:

Or, it will stick with them for the rest of their lives. I wish I'd been lectured at school on the perils of smoking from an early age, it would have saved me a he'll of a lot of cash and "probably" a few health issues that have popped up.

Teaching kids Science and how to spot fake news is a good thing.

Pardon ?

Some of us have never followed the crowd and smoked, it appeared a stupid thing to do, but due to the drive to reduce CO2, I have to breathe in other people's diesel emissions,
They are not telling them how to spot fake news they are dictating what they should believe,
One girl was being interviewed was talking about polar bears, you know the animal that numbers are increasing, she was saying how would we like our place we live to disappear Infront of you eye's, is that the truth or fake ?
https://polarbearscience.com/2017/02/23/global-pol...
I did read one report that put the number as high as 40,000, this from about 6000 in the 1960s
But I suppose we have to protect the soft cuddly polar bear so it can go about ripping seals apart.

[gadgetmac]

PRTVR said:

gadgetmac said:

Or, it will stick with them for the rest of their lives. I wish I'd been lectured at school on the perils of smoking from an early age, it would have saved me a he'll of a lot of cash and "probably" a few health issues that have popped up.

Teaching kids Science and how to spot fake news is a good thing.

Pardon ?

Some of us have never followed the crowd and smoked, it appeared a stupid thing to do, but due to the drive to reduce CO2, I have to breathe in other people's diesel emissions,
They are not telling them how to spot fake news they are dictating what they should believe,
One girl was being interviewed was talking about polar bears, you know the animal that numbers are increasing, she was saying how would we like our place we live to disappear Infront of you eye's, is that the truth or fake ?
https://polarbearscience.com/2017/02/23/global-pol...
I did read one report that put the number as high as 40,000, this from about 6000 in the 1960s
But I suppose we have to protect the soft cuddly polar bear so it can go about ripping seals apart.

Hopefully then, being a denier, your posts are the ones they are being “indoctrinated” to spot as fake news.

PS: polarbearscinece.com? Got something a little less...’bloggy’? Something with a little more gravitas? Something...er...not Susan Crockford?

“In 2017 Crockford was accused in the environmental publication The Narwhal by polar bear scientist Ian Stirling as having "zero" credibility on polar bears. ... In 2017, Crockford published the State of the Polar Bear Report 2017 for the Global Warming Policy Foundation.”

This kinda makes my PS point (above) for me.

You people never stop quoting the rogue scientists associated with The GWPF do you.

[gadgetmac]

Ooooo more on your pin-up girl Suzie

“In 2012, a confidential document leak, dubbed Denialgate, revealed that Crockford had also been receiving payments of $750 per month from the notorious climate change denial think tank, the Heartland Institute, to work on their NIPCC (Nongovernmental International Panel on Climate Change) project. Crockford has also spoken at the Heartland Institute's International Conference on Climate Change (ICCC). Crockford refused to discuss the payments when contacted by a University of Victoria student newspaper.

Crockford regularly produces studies for the Global Warming Policy Foundation (GWPF).”

[durbster]

PRTVR said:

Pardon ?

Some of us have never followed the crowd and smoked, it appeared a stupid thing to do, but due to the drive to reduce CO2, I have to breathe in other people's diesel emissions,
They are not telling them how to spot fake news they are dictating what they should believe,
One girl was being interviewed was talking about polar bears, you know the animal that numbers are increasing, she was saying how would we like our place we live to disappear Infront of you eye's, is that the truth or fake ?
https://polarbearscience.com/2017/02/23/global-pol...
I did read one report that put the number as high as 40,000, this from about 6000 in the 1960s
But I suppose we have to protect the soft cuddly polar bear so it can go about ripping seals apart.

I presume you've got this angle from some advocacy blog but the reality is that there is simply not enough reliable data on polar bear numbers to have any bearing on this topic.