Brexit - 35% House Prices Crash

Brexit - 35% House Prices Crash

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Iddz

Original Poster:

61 posts

88 months

Monday 17th September 2018
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Hi guys,

As you would have heard or seen, as its all over the news; apparently with the event of a no-brexit deal we are likely to see a 35% drop in house prices.

Would you say this is likely to happen? I am a first time buyer and have finally saved up enough deposit to buy by dream house but do not want to be stuck in negative equality.

Any information welcome.

kambites

67,556 posts

221 months

Monday 17th September 2018
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Well at least something good might come out of BrExit then... it's about bloody time some sort of sanity returned to the housing market.

Personally, I probably wouldn't buy now. Whilst I suspect 35% is an exaggeration, I think they're more likely to fall in real terms than rise over the next year or so.

Luke.

10,991 posts

250 months

Monday 17th September 2018
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Believe it when I see it.

ToothbrushMan

1,770 posts

125 months

Monday 17th September 2018
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thats nothing - this morning I heard the words " next recession " mentioned on the Beeb.

if that happens and we are apparently still having to "tighten our belts with this seemingly never ending crushing austerity (read = the government tighten them for us, so the royal we) what will the next phase of austerity entail - I dont even want to go there............

kambites

67,556 posts

221 months

Monday 17th September 2018
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ToothbrushMan said:
what will the next phase of austerity entail - I dont even want to go there............
I think the Tories have been looking for an excuse to privatise the NHS for years...

S. Gonzales Esq.

2,557 posts

212 months

Monday 17th September 2018
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I saw the BBC website headline about this and it's spectacularly misleading - enough to damamge my opinion of BBC News.

Read two thirds of the way down the article and it turns out that the bank modelled a range of post-Brexit scenarios, and the worst one they imagined was a 30-something percent drop in housing values. There only place implying this could ever actually happen is the headline on the article.

I wonder if they modelled a 35% rise in house prices too?

ToothbrushMan

1,770 posts

125 months

Monday 17th September 2018
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kambites said:
ToothbrushMan said:
what will the next phase of austerity entail - I dont even want to go there............
I think the Tories have been looking for an excuse to privatise the NHS for years...
nail on head mate.

DanielSan

18,786 posts

167 months

Monday 17th September 2018
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S. Gonzales Esq. said:
I saw the BBC website headline about this and it's spectacularly misleading - enough to damamge my opinion of BBC News.

Read two thirds of the way down the article and it turns out that the bank modelled a range of post-Brexit scenarios, and the worst one they imagined was a 30-something percent drop in housing values. There only place implying this could ever actually happen is the headline on the article.

I wonder if they modelled a 35% rise in house prices too?
You mean the BBC would take a more Daily Mail bullst approach to the news? Nooooo...

crofty1984

15,858 posts

204 months

Monday 17th September 2018
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I'm looking to move up the housing ladder, so if they caould make that happen in the next couple of years, that would be just super, thanks. 20% should do nicely.

captain_cynic

11,991 posts

95 months

Monday 17th September 2018
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kambites said:
Well at least something good might come out of BrExit then... it's about bloody time some sort of sanity returned to the housing market.

Personally, I probably wouldn't buy now. Whilst I suspect 35% is an exaggeration, I think they're more likely to fall in real terms than rise over the next year or so.
Also remember that there are changes to agent and letting fees being introduced next year (march IIRC) meaning that agents and landlords can no longer charge you £400 just to walk through the door and I constantly hear complaints that it's barely profitable as it is. Combine this with the pound dropping causing less disposable income (hence renters will be moving to cheaper properties) and we're likely to see fair few BTL properties being put on the market and agents going tits up at the same time. This will have an effect on prices.

Houses are already not selling very well, A colleague had to sell his property for £50,000 less than advertised after 10 months of advertising and 3 different agents.

RJG46

980 posts

68 months

Monday 17th September 2018
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He only thing that will kill house prices will be a big jump in interest rates. 35% seems unlikely, if you find somewhere you like, just buy it. We will all be in the same boat.

ARHarh

3,755 posts

107 months

Monday 17th September 2018
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The best advice with house buying is buy somewhere you want to live, don't buy somewhere to make money.

Dr Doofenshmirtz

15,225 posts

200 months

Monday 17th September 2018
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kambites said:
I think the Tories have been looking for an excuse to privatise the NHS for years...
Well it's off topic, but the NHS is a massive vast cavernous huge money pit that you either keep blindly pouring money into, or do the sensible thing and get rid.
Of course nobody will vote for any party getting shot of it, so you have to either try and make it work somehow...I don't know how, cos it can't, but anyway [Tories] or keep the money pouring in regardless no questions asked [Labour].

As for house prices - houses definitely aren't selling at the moment that's for sure. There's several new builds and quite a number of other properties near us that aren't shifting (near Oxford) - but that may be due to the uncertainty over the next white elephant that is the Oxford to Cambridge expressway.

captain_cynic

11,991 posts

95 months

Monday 17th September 2018
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Dr Doofenshmirtz said:
kambites said:
I think the Tories have been looking for an excuse to privatise the NHS for years...
Well it's off topic, but the NHS is a massive vast cavernous huge money pit that you either keep blindly pouring money into, or do the sensible thing and get rid.
If you think the NHS is expensive, you should see how much a private system costs.

The US taxpayer pays nearly twice as much for their private health system as the UK taxpayer does for the NHS... And the US taxpayer then needs health insurance above that.


jas xjr

11,309 posts

239 months

Monday 17th September 2018
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There is always an over reaction to change in the short term.
Might be a good time to buy some euros with your deposit smile
I am sure somebody more qualified will be along shortly.
I would not be buying a house right now

donkmeister

8,155 posts

100 months

Monday 17th September 2018
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A drop of that magnitude would be brilliant for many people and for many reasons but only if it isn't accompanied by a huge increase in people defaulting on mortgages as a result.

It would however upset a lot of friends and colleagues who have remortgaged to pay for holidays and toys, and also those who are mortgaged to the hilt to get the absolute maximum house they can stretch to.

kambites

67,556 posts

221 months

Monday 17th September 2018
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captain_cynic said:
If you think the NHS is expensive, you should see how much a private system costs.

The US taxpayer pays nearly twice as much for their private health system as the UK taxpayer does for the NHS... And the US taxpayer then needs health insurance above that.
yes Healthcare is expensive, especially if you want it to work. The UK's overall expenditure on healthcare per capita is about average for Europe (which makes it on the low side for western Europe) and massively lower than the USA.

People love to claim the NHS is poor value for money but the figures don't really back that up.

Edited by kambites on Monday 17th September 11:48

captain_cynic

11,991 posts

95 months

Monday 17th September 2018
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kambites said:
captain_cynic said:
If you think the NHS is expensive, you should see how much a private system costs.

The US taxpayer pays nearly twice as much for their private health system as the UK taxpayer does for the NHS... And the US taxpayer then needs health insurance above that.
yes Healthcare is expensive, especially if you want it to work. The UK's overall expenditure on healthcare per capita is about average for Europe and massively lower than the USA.
Yep, I wont pretend the NHS doesn't have problems and cant be improved... But compared to the mess that is a private system, it's bloody good.

ITP

2,004 posts

197 months

Monday 17th September 2018
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I assume we will be seeing many more, and increasingly hysterical, doom laden headlines from the over the coming months.

My personal favourite so far was the one last week that stated that, due to Brexit, we will all die because we won’t get EU information about asteroids crashing to earth and wiping out the planets population. Best stay in then, just in case.

untakenname

4,969 posts

192 months

Monday 17th September 2018
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I think you would have to be completely moronic to buy a house in this current climate, would need to wait until at least 2020 to see how hard the break with the EU is going to be.

Section 24 is also finally starting to bite, there's now lots of ex BTL coming to market which only held it's perceived value due to other BTL landlords.