Residents could be armed with speeding guns

[Integroo]

Police are going to provide training and then the police will write to individuals who these community groups catch?!

EDIT: I realise you can't really read the article. https://www.scotsman.com/news/residents-could-be-a...

[carlingofblack]

I’ll have a stash of grenades to lob back at them then.
Sanctimonious prats.

[Integroo]

I particularly like the reference to the cardboard Pop Up Bob. Great idea covering the city with 20mph limits but having no intention in enforcing it...(or indeed resources to enforce it).

[Puggit]

This has been happening for years - the letters can be happily filed in the bin.

[MikeT66]

And no doubt catch most of those 'caught' will be residents from the area themselves.

[dromond]

Stick to the speed limits in urban areas and it wont matter a fk how many speed guns they point at you.

[FN2TypeR]

This isn't new; I've read about this on here several times before.

One does wonder however, if these busy bodies are opening themselves to reprisals from people who don't take kindly to receiving letters from the police regarding their alleged speeding.

[TooMany2cvs]

Nothing even remotely new about the concept.

https://www.communityspeedwatch.org/

National press 2003 article about one group - but the first groups were started in 2001 or so.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/2723746/Villa...

FN2TypeR said:

One does wonder however, if these busy bodies are opening themselves to reprisals from people who don't take kindly to receiving letters from the police regarding their alleged speeding.

It would take a special kind of stupid to escalate a letter from the police to threats or violence... How long would the list of suspects be, ffs?

[catso]

Quite a few around where I live, invariably senior citizens running it.

I had an encounter last year where (according to my speedo) I wasn't even exceeding the limit.

Not only did I receive a letter saying I was speeding, I received 2 letters on the same day with a few minutes between each alleged incident, despite the fact I only passed through the area once.

All the 'training' in the world is no good if the operator is senile...

[Moonhawk]

dromond said:

Stick to the speed limits in urban areas and it wont matter a fk how many speed guns they point at you.

And when they aren't catching enough people to justify the time and effort - expect the speed limit to be mysteriously lowered.

[Halb]

Integroo said:

Police are going to provide training and then the police will write to individuals who these community groups catch?!

EDIT: I realise you can't really read the article. https://www.scotsman.com/news/residents-could-be-a...

Ace.
it'll stop the rampant fake camera industry
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/fb-5339205/How-pu...

[jurbie]

The more of these the better. They exist when some busybody decides everyone is speeding down their street and starts agitating for the installation of speed cameras outside their front door. The police give them a speed gun and a high viz and make them feel terribly important however the actual point of the exercise is to prove that actually very few people are speeding down their street.

A case in point from just the other week.

[Kccv23highliftcam]

TooMany2cvs said:

It would take a special kind of stupid to escalate a letter from the police to threats or violence... How long would the list of suspects be, ffs?

Enforcement should [and MUST] be by the Police. Stuff the fancy letters, all that does is change focus from being caught speeding to who caught them speeding.

If they want to be "user friendly" a good stiff bking at the roadside immediately upon transgression for about 30 minutes would I believe wake MOST errant motorists up.

[Riley Blue]

Keep up at the back, this started in 2001.

[Countdown]

Moonhawk said:

dromond said:

Stick to the speed limits in urban areas and it wont matter a fk how many speed guns they point at you.

And when they aren't catching enough people to justify the time and effort - expect the speed limit to be mysteriously lowered.

These are volunteers- How are they going to get the speed limit lowered ?

ETA I imagine the vast majority of people wont be affected as the vast majority of people don’t drive like dicks.

[Kccv23highliftcam]

Countdown said:

Moonhawk said:

dromond said:

Stick to the speed limits in urban areas and it wont matter a fk how many speed guns they point at you.

And when they aren't catching enough people to justify the time and effort - expect the speed limit to be mysteriously lowered.

These are volunteers- How are they going to get the speed limit lowered ?

ETA I imagine the vast majority of people wont be affected as the vast majority of people don’t drive like dicks.

BUT .... the ones that drive badly tar everyone else with same brush.

Hence the "we need speed bumps " campaigners [many of whom are anti car from the start] gain momentum and publicity.

Those drivers who drive in an urban area at excessive speed or at a speed unsuitable to conditions/visibility, well there really is just NO EXCUSE for this lack of responsibility to your community.

But unfortunately this lack of basic respect is endemic across the UK. Why? well that's another topic....you decide.

[paintman]

MikeT66 said:

And no doubt catch most of those 'caught' will be residents from the area themselves.

Some years ago following frequent complaints about the speed of vehicles - mainly lorries from the local quarry - in a Leicestershire village we visited on several occasions during the times the complainant had highlighted as the main problem.
On occasion he would join us - would just wander up - & soon realised it was the size & noise that made him think the lorries were speeding as his guesstimates were always well above their actual speed.
Despite several visits we only caught one speeder. It was the complainant in his car. I can't recall the actual speed, only that it was over 40 in a 30 limit which was £60 & 3 points. He was quite philosophical about it.

[FN2TypeR]

TooMany2cvs said:

It would take a special kind of stupid to escalate a letter from the police to threats or violence... How long would the list of suspects be, ffs?

Yes it would and those people are out there.

[Kccv23highliftcam]

FN2TypeR said:

TooMany2cvs said:

It would take a special kind of stupid to escalate a letter from the police to threats or violence... How long would the list of suspects be, ffs?

Yes it would and those people are out there.

[Shakermaker]

The "sort of main road" near where I live, along which I commute, is trying to set something like this up. Its a residential road with a 30 limit, and there are two primary and two secondary schools along it, plus it is also one of the two "avoiding low bridge" routes for lorries going through the town rather than stopping in it.

However, it is my own belief that you would lose all your teeth if you actually did exceed 30mph along the road given how terrible the surface of it is.

The actual problem is that the residents cars are all parked along the road, restricing it in many places to one lane (Maybe two small cars could still pass) and whilst there are plenty of gaps to pull into to allow oncoming traffic to pass, the result is that you get everyone regularly revving their engine from idle to then get moving again, rather than a constant level of people going past. Having walked along the road many times as well, the result makes you THINK everyone is driving badly, but the reality (from a drivers perspective) is that you aren't ever getting above 30 at all, you're just doing 0-20 half a dozen times