Take-up of MMR vaccine falls for fourth year in a row.
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WinstonWolf said:
140,000 measles deaths last year, mainly children under 5.Measles deaths 'staggering and tragic' https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-50659893
Pesty said:
Says deprived areas and M?ori and Pacific Islanders getting it worst.
Are we sure this has anything to do with anti Vaxers and not a cultural thing?
It also says they can’t be sure the unborn babies died because of it.
UK has issues too, from the article...Are we sure this has anything to do with anti Vaxers and not a cultural thing?
It also says they can’t be sure the unborn babies died because of it.
“In 2018, the UK - along with Albania, the Czech Republic and Greece, lost their measles elimination status. “
Tony Starks said:
Some of the Samoan reluctance was due to a mix up with the wrong vaccine being given last year, and causing panic.
There's been a few anti-vaxxer and witch doctor arrests too, so the authorities are taking it very seriously.
Report on R4 this weekThere's been a few anti-vaxxer and witch doctor arrests too, so the authorities are taking it very seriously.
Health workers used the wrong diluent for the vaccine resulting in a couple of babies dying following vaccination
Govt. suspended vaccinations for 9 months whilst investigating to find the error
American anti vaxxers piled in and aided by the wife of a local rugby star whipped up a panic
Last of all paediatricians from UK are going in to deal with the measles epidemic and catch up vaccine programme
oddman said:
Tony Starks said:
Some of the Samoan reluctance was due to a mix up with the wrong vaccine being given last year, and causing panic.
There's been a few anti-vaxxer and witch doctor arrests too, so the authorities are taking it very seriously.
Report on R4 this weekThere's been a few anti-vaxxer and witch doctor arrests too, so the authorities are taking it very seriously.
Health workers used the wrong diluent for the vaccine resulting in a couple of babies dying following vaccination
Govt. suspended vaccinations for 9 months whilst investigating to find the error
American anti vaxxers piled in and aided by the wife of a local rugby star whipped up a panic
Last of all paediatricians from UK are going in to deal with the measles epidemic and catch up vaccine programme
Official measles notifications and deaths in England & Wales: 1940 to 2017
Before you click the link, ask yourself what numbers are you expecting...
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/measles...
Last 10 years clipped from the table: year, notifications. deaths
Before you click the link, ask yourself what numbers are you expecting...
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/measles...
Last 10 years clipped from the table: year, notifications. deaths
Edited by anonymous-user on Friday 6th December 09:17
JPJPJP said:
Official measles notifications and deaths in England & Wales: 1940 to 2017
Before you click the link, ask yourself what numbers are you expecting...
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/measles...
Last 10 years clipped from the table: year, notifications. deaths
Looks in line with what I expected - lots in 1940. not lots in 2017. Before you click the link, ask yourself what numbers are you expecting...
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/measles...
Last 10 years clipped from the table: year, notifications. deaths
Edited by JPJPJP on Friday 6th December 09:17
An Anti- vaxxer will try and tell you that is due to better water, healthcare and sanitation. Survivability might be better in modern years due to healthcare, but those numbers just support the fact vaccines work.
wsurfa said:
Andeh1 said:
Modern day natural selection?!
No, because it endangers all those who are unable to be vaccinated, not just those who chose not to be. 
Hoofy said:
AVers give some BS about how people with the vaccine carry the virus on our skin and pass it to those who can't be vaccinated and it isn't the fault of AVers.
This falls under the category of "you can have your own opinions, but you can't have your own facts" Vaccinated people spreading live competent virus
that's a new one on me. RTB said:
Hoofy said:
AVers give some BS about how people with the vaccine carry the virus on our skin and pass it to those who can't be vaccinated and it isn't the fault of AVers.
This falls under the category of "you can have your own opinions, but you can't have your own facts" Vaccinated people spreading live competent virus
that's a new one on me. Hoofy said:
The bizarre thing is that some qualified doctors/medical professionals are on their side. I don't understand what these people have to gain from it or why they are doing it.
I work with quite a few physicians on clinical studies. One or two of them seem to think that putting the words "in my professional opinion" turns their hand-waving guess into cold hard scientific fact 
Having said that the majority of medical professionals I work with aren't like that at all.
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