The people's vote
Discussion
B'stard Child said:
Ghibli said:
gooner1 said:
Were you banned for calling people peado's ?
Nope, I was banned because someone pressed the snowflake button because they felt they were being bullied.They kept going on about children and bedtime, I asked what the fascination was. Obviously it was nothing to do with Brexit.
gooner1 said:
B'stard Child said:
Ghibli said:
gooner1 said:
Were you banned for calling people peado's ?
Nope, I was banned because someone pressed the snowflake button because they felt they were being bullied.They kept going on about children and bedtime, I asked what the fascination was. Obviously it was nothing to do with Brexit.
dromond said:
Ghibli said:
Russian troll bots post is not something I have been replying to no matter how much Dromond would like it to be.
I wonder why that would be, a post of that calibre, one of the best ever posts on all of the brexit threads in fact,and you have nothing to say about it, too much truth in it for you?.
I couldn't care less if you replied to it or not, the fact that you have ignored it completely actually speaks volumes,
you couldn't come back at RTB's post if you tried.
It's just a shame you can't admit you are wrong. Keep twisting.
Ghibli said:
dromond said:
Ghibli said:
Russian troll bots post is not something I have been replying to no matter how much Dromond would like it to be.
I wonder why that would be, a post of that calibre, one of the best ever posts on all of the brexit threads in fact,and you have nothing to say about it, too much truth in it for you?.
I couldn't care less if you replied to it or not, the fact that you have ignored it completely actually speaks volumes,
you couldn't come back at RTB's post if you tried.
It's just a shame you can't admit you are wrong. Keep twisting.
Ghibli said:
irocfan said:
Ghibli said:
I'm asking why people say they are being accused of being racist and where they are accused.
well I did suggest you look on google for various utterances of this - if you KBA to look that's hardly something we can help....gazza285 said:
abzmike said:
Isn’t this sweet... this thread is like a safe place Brexiters can come and comfort themselves. Meanwhile the rest of us are none the wiser what will happen on the 30/3/19.
I'll probably do parkrun, then have a sausage sandwich, followed by some messing about until me and the missus go to the pub, that's my guess.TX.
Tankrizzo said:
Let's not forget that a driver for a second referendum is that apparently "a large part of the country has changed its mind", according to polls.
Yet polling for major political decisions in the UK over the last few years has been wrong - spectacularly so, in some cases. Polling for the 2015 GE showed a coalition government was likely; instead we had a Tory majority. Polling in 2017 showed a clear Tory majority and instead we had a hung Parliament.
Even the polling for the EU Referendum itself showed a narrow win for Remain.
I take the claim of "the country has changed its mind" with a pinch of salt. Who can honestly say that Remain would almost certainly win if you asked the same question again? Even Remainers can't.
Plus when fact checked it turns out to be yet more nonsense.Yet polling for major political decisions in the UK over the last few years has been wrong - spectacularly so, in some cases. Polling for the 2015 GE showed a coalition government was likely; instead we had a Tory majority. Polling in 2017 showed a clear Tory majority and instead we had a hung Parliament.
Even the polling for the EU Referendum itself showed a narrow win for Remain.
I take the claim of "the country has changed its mind" with a pinch of salt. Who can honestly say that Remain would almost certainly win if you asked the same question again? Even Remainers can't.
TX.
Integroo said:
Representative democracy: the principle of having elected officials to make decisions for us.
Direct democracy: people make decisions directly.
A referendum is the latter. We elect politicians to make decisions as they should be better informed and therefore make better decisions than individuals who don't have the time and resource, access to experts and often capability to properly consider issues and make good decisions.
They did make the decision. That decision was to ask the people. The people answered that call in the largest democratic exercise the nation has ever experienced. Direct democracy: people make decisions directly.
A referendum is the latter. We elect politicians to make decisions as they should be better informed and therefore make better decisions than individuals who don't have the time and resource, access to experts and often capability to properly consider issues and make good decisions.
They then enacted the legislation to carry out that decision.
We are now in the process of that legislation being used to carry out the will of the people, which is the will of parliament because they asked for the direction after they decided they couldn't settle the issue themselves.
Whichever way you look at this, our representative democracy has and is controlling the whole process from start to finish.
Terminator X said:
gazza285 said:
abzmike said:
Isn’t this sweet... this thread is like a safe place Brexiters can come and comfort themselves. Meanwhile the rest of us are none the wiser what will happen on the 30/3/19.
I'll probably do parkrun, then have a sausage sandwich, followed by some messing about until me and the missus go to the pub, that's my guess.TX.
I hate hangovers....
And now the latest 'democratic' tactic from labour/momentum to force the issue: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-politics-45648081...
irocfan said:
Ghibli said:
irocfan said:
Ghibli said:
I'm asking why people say they are being accused of being racist and where they are accused.
well I did suggest you look on google for various utterances of this - if you KBA to look that's hardly something we can help....Biker 1 said:
And now the latest 'democratic' tactic from labour/momentum to force the issue: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-politics-45648081...
what a total fknuggetjsf said:
They did make the decision. That decision was to ask the people. The people answered that call in the largest democratic exercise the nation has ever experienced.
They then enacted the legislation to carry out that decision.
We are now in the process of that legislation being used to carry out the will of the people, which is the will of parliament because they asked for the direction after they decided they couldn't settle the issue themselves.
Whichever way you look at this, our representative democracy has and is controlling the whole process from start to finish.
Maybe, but it was a terrible idea!They then enacted the legislation to carry out that decision.
We are now in the process of that legislation being used to carry out the will of the people, which is the will of parliament because they asked for the direction after they decided they couldn't settle the issue themselves.
Whichever way you look at this, our representative democracy has and is controlling the whole process from start to finish.
irocfan said:
Biker 1 said:
And now the latest 'democratic' tactic from labour/momentum to force the issue: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-politics-45648081...
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