How do we think EU negotiations will go? (Vol 5)

How do we think EU negotiations will go? (Vol 5)

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Helicopter123

8,831 posts

156 months

Saturday 13th October 2018
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Tuna said:
Helicopter123 said:
Any leavers unhappy with their Chequers style Brexit are welcome to campaign for a second referendum or GE at which they can express their views. As very few seem to be, they must be delighted with the direction of negotiations.
Just as Remainers in the Government have worked behind the scenes to 'get their way', so too are those unhappy with Chequers. If I were you, I wouldn't put money on the eventual outcome smile

... but, please stop trying to put words into other people's mouths. It's tedious.
I’m sorry but there has been no workable alternative to chequers produced, just wishful thinking from some on the political fringes.

Remaining indefinitely in the CM a pragmatic outcome for all sides. Not as good as the deal we have at the moment but it limits the damage.

don'tbesilly

13,933 posts

163 months

Saturday 13th October 2018
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Helicopter123 said:
Tuna said:
Helicopter123 said:
Any leavers unhappy with their Chequers style Brexit are welcome to campaign for a second referendum or GE at which they can express their views. As very few seem to be, they must be delighted with the direction of negotiations.
Just as Remainers in the Government have worked behind the scenes to 'get their way', so too are those unhappy with Chequers. If I were you, I wouldn't put money on the eventual outcome smile

... but, please stop trying to put words into other people's mouths. It's tedious.
I’m sorry but there has been no workable alternative to chequers produced, just wishful thinking from some on the political fringes.

Remaining indefinitely in the CM a pragmatic outcome for all sides. Not as good as the deal we have at the moment but it limits the damage.
rofl

Helicopter123

8,831 posts

156 months

Saturday 13th October 2018
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don'tbesilly said:
rofl
You’re welcome wink

Pan Pan Pan

9,902 posts

111 months

Saturday 13th October 2018
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Helicopter123 said:
Tuna said:
Helicopter123 said:
Any leavers unhappy with their Chequers style Brexit are welcome to campaign for a second referendum or GE at which they can express their views. As very few seem to be, they must be delighted with the direction of negotiations.
Just as Remainers in the Government have worked behind the scenes to 'get their way', so too are those unhappy with Chequers. If I were you, I wouldn't put money on the eventual outcome smile

... but, please stop trying to put words into other people's mouths. It's tedious.
I’m sorry but there has been no workable alternative to chequers produced, just wishful thinking from some on the political fringes.

Remaining indefinitely in the CM a pragmatic outcome for all sides. Not as good as the deal we have at the moment but it limits the damage.
What damage? At the present the UK is paying billions of pounds a year to the EU, just so that the EU can sell 71 billion pounds worth more of their goods and services a year, than the UK is able to sell into the alledged 500 million people in the EU.
You know, the situation where all the EU businesses and factories, are working , whereas those in the UK are being shut down as the UK buys more of its goods, and services from the EU, is that the sort of damage you are talking about?

PurpleMoonlight

22,362 posts

157 months

Saturday 13th October 2018
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Pan Pan Pan said:
What damage? At the present the UK is paying billions of pounds a year to the EU, just so that the EU can sell 71 billion pounds worth more of their goods and services a year, than the UK is able to sell into the alledged 500 million people in the EU.
You know, the situation where all the EU businesses and factories, are working , whereas those in the UK are being shut down as the UK buys more of its goods, and services from the EU, is that the sort of damage you are talking about?
I think you have posted that on every volume so far.

It's still as rubbish as it ever was.

Helicopter123

8,831 posts

156 months

Saturday 13th October 2018
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Pan Pan Pan said:
What damage? At the present the UK is paying billions of pounds a year to the EU, just so that the EU can sell 71 billion pounds worth more of their goods and services a year, than the UK is able to sell into the alledged 500 million people in the EU.
You know, the situation where all the EU businesses and factories, are working , whereas those in the UK are being shut down as the UK buys more of its goods, and services from the EU, is that the sort of damage you are talking about?
So Brexit is just fine as long as it hurts Johnny Foreigner more than it hurts us?

alfie2244

11,292 posts

188 months

Saturday 13th October 2018
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Helicopter123 said:
So Brexit is just fine as long as it hurts Johnny Foreigner more than it hurts us?
Mate why the fook do you have to keep on with the "Johnny Foreigner" crap?

eta just so you know.......for the 1st time ever in 10 yrs I have reported your post as deliberate baiting and trolling.

Edited by alfie2244 on Saturday 13th October 13:15

Tuna

19,930 posts

284 months

Saturday 13th October 2018
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Helicopter123 said:
Tuna said:
Helicopter123 said:
Any leavers unhappy with their Chequers style Brexit are welcome to campaign for a second referendum or GE at which they can express their views. As very few seem to be, they must be delighted with the direction of negotiations.
Just as Remainers in the Government have worked behind the scenes to 'get their way', so too are those unhappy with Chequers. If I were you, I wouldn't put money on the eventual outcome smile

... but, please stop trying to put words into other people's mouths. It's tedious.
I’m sorry but there has been no workable alternative to chequers produced, just wishful thinking from some on the political fringes.
You don't actually read anything that's said to you do you? And no, you're not sorry either - this is like talking to our teenage son.

Remind me again what the EU's current position on Chequers is?

Helicopter123 said:
Remaining indefinitely in the CM a pragmatic outcome for all sides. Not as good as the deal we have at the moment but it limits the damage.
It's been pointed out a number of times, but saying something doesn't make it true. Perhaps you can explain how much the proposed customs processing is going to cost, and how much of an effect it's going to have on businesses located in the UK?

don'tbesilly

13,933 posts

163 months

Saturday 13th October 2018
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Helicopter123 said:
Pan Pan Pan said:
What damage? At the present the UK is paying billions of pounds a year to the EU, just so that the EU can sell 71 billion pounds worth more of their goods and services a year, than the UK is able to sell into the alledged 500 million people in the EU.
You know, the situation where all the EU businesses and factories, are working , whereas those in the UK are being shut down as the UK buys more of its goods, and services from the EU, is that the sort of damage you are talking about?
So Brexit is just fine as long as it hurts Johnny Foreigner more than it hurts us?
Can you expand on just how you've arrived at that conclusion based on the post you've quoted?

Or perhaps using the term 'Johnny Foreigner' makes you think it makes you look clever, and that was your point?

Pan Pan Pan

9,902 posts

111 months

Saturday 13th October 2018
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Helicopter123 said:
Pan Pan Pan said:
What damage? At the present the UK is paying billions of pounds a year to the EU, just so that the EU can sell 71 billion pounds worth more of their goods and services a year, than the UK is able to sell into the alledged 500 million people in the EU.
You know, the situation where all the EU businesses and factories, are working , whereas those in the UK are being shut down as the UK buys more of its goods, and services from the EU, is that the sort of damage you are talking about?
So Brexit is just fine as long as it hurts Johnny Foreigner more than it hurts us?
So the UK staying in the EU is fine just as long as the UK always pays in, far more than it gets out of its membership, and a select few UK businesses can get a little out of it, whilst many other UK businesses such as steel production, UK fisheries, and vehicle manufacture can go to the wall?

Pan Pan Pan

9,902 posts

111 months

Saturday 13th October 2018
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PurpleMoonlight said:
Pan Pan Pan said:
What damage? At the present the UK is paying billions of pounds a year to the EU, just so that the EU can sell 71 billion pounds worth more of their goods and services a year, than the UK is able to sell into the alledged 500 million people in the EU.
You know, the situation where all the EU businesses and factories, are working , whereas those in the UK are being shut down as the UK buys more of its goods, and services from the EU, is that the sort of damage you are talking about?
I think you have posted that on every volume so far.

It's still as rubbish as it ever was.
That is the problem with remainers they get a little uncomfortable when the truth of the UK's membership is presented to them, and want it put out of sight and forgotten about as soon as possible.

PurpleMoonlight

22,362 posts

157 months

Saturday 13th October 2018
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Pan Pan Pan said:
That is the problem with remainers they get a little uncomfortable when the truth of the UK's membership is presented to them, and want it put out of sight and forgotten about as soon as possible.

Sorry, you don't need to be a remainer to see the flaw in your argument.

anonymous-user

54 months

Saturday 13th October 2018
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We are now at page 3 and the big bad Brexit boys are pressing the snowflake button.

I wonder how the negotiations would go if they were in charge of them. wink

Pan Pan Pan

9,902 posts

111 months

Saturday 13th October 2018
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PurpleMoonlight said:
Pan Pan Pan said:
That is the problem with remainers they get a little uncomfortable when the truth of the UK's membership is presented to them, and want it put out of sight and forgotten about as soon as possible.

Sorry, you don't need to be a remainer to see the flaw in your argument.
Only a remainer sees a flaw in the truth.

If you could describe where the UK has gained by being a member of the EU, that would be a help. So far the majority voter in the UK has not been able to see why being a member of the EU is good for the UK.. Perhaps you could come up with some reasons why the UK should want to remain in the EU? I cannot see one, but plenty of reasons why the UK should get out as soon as possible.

don'tbesilly

13,933 posts

163 months

Saturday 13th October 2018
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Ghibli said:
We are now at page 3 and the big bad Brexit boys are pressing the snowflake button.

I wonder how the negotiations would go if they were in charge of them. wink
Yet there are probably just as many Remain bad boys pressing the snowflake button.

Go figure.

Next.

PurpleMoonlight

22,362 posts

157 months

Saturday 13th October 2018
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Pan Pan Pan said:
Only a remainer sees a flaw in the truth.

If you could describe where the UK has gained by being a member of the EU, that would be a help. So far the majority voter in the UK has not been able to see why being a member of the EU is good for the UK.. Perhaps you could come up with some reasons why the UK should want to remain in the EU? I cannot see one, but plenty of reasons why the UK should get out as soon as possible.
Gees, even BC could find a few reasons to stay in the EU.

laugh

anonymous-user

54 months

Saturday 13th October 2018
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don'tbesilly said:
Yet there are probably just as many Remain bad boys pressing the snowflake button.

Go figure.

Next.
I wouldn't know about that. I don't see remainers saying that they are going to or have reported a post. Leave voters say it regularly. I guess they don't like people talking about the stupid conservatives of Brexit.



Pan Pan Pan

9,902 posts

111 months

Saturday 13th October 2018
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PurpleMoonlight said:
Pan Pan Pan said:
Only a remainer sees a flaw in the truth.

If you could describe where the UK has gained by being a member of the EU, that would be a help. So far the majority voter in the UK has not been able to see why being a member of the EU is good for the UK.. Perhaps you could come up with some reasons why the UK should want to remain in the EU? I cannot see one, but plenty of reasons why the UK should get out as soon as possible.
Gees, even BC could find a few reasons to stay in the EU.

laugh
Quite possibly, but they would nevertheless be swamped by the sheer number of reasons for getting out asap smile

anonymous-user

54 months

Saturday 13th October 2018
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PurpleMoonlight said:
Pan Pan Pan said:
Only a remainer sees a flaw in the truth.

If you could describe where the UK has gained by being a member of the EU, that would be a help. So far the majority voter in the UK has not been able to see why being a member of the EU is good for the UK.. Perhaps you could come up with some reasons why the UK should want to remain in the EU? I cannot see one, but plenty of reasons why the UK should get out as soon as possible.
Gees, even BC could find a few reasons to stay in the EU.

laugh
Perhaps you could enlighten us then, as the only benefit that I can see for staying is that if we leave it wil be bad mmmkay

Tuna

19,930 posts

284 months

Saturday 13th October 2018
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Ghibli said:
We are now at page 3 and the big bad Brexit boys are pressing the snowflake button.

I wonder how the negotiations would go if they were in charge of them. wink
Don't you find it at least a bit embarrassing to read some of the posts on here from your fellow Remainers? So far we have this:

Coolbanananana said:
A 5th Volume to poke fun at the Leaver's on!
Mr T said:
Boris promised cake and everyone believes Boris.
citizensm1th said:
Do brexiteers not have either the maturity or self control not to reply then?
Helicopter123 said:
So Brexit is just fine as long as it hurts Johnny Foreigner more than it hurts us?
Against that onslaught of wit and insight, what hope do Leavers have? It's amazing they won the Referendum really.
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