Free teas / coffees for on a shout firefighters?

[acd80]

Dibble said:

I did wonder about the uniform

Those two chaps are part of the Irish Army Ranger Wing based in The Curragh in Co. Kildare.

[Rick101]

yellowjack said:

Points of order.

yada yada yada

You do realise I wasn't actually replying to you and my point was in part agreeing with you!

Calm thy sen down and do some press ups or something.;)

Or were you being ironic and actually hoping everyone would post up saying thank you for being a hero?

Make peace not war

[98elise]

Troubleatmill said:

Noodle1982 said:

Troubleatmill said:

Noodle1982 said:

Why on earth should McDonalds, or any other shop for that matter, provide free hot drinks to fire fighters?

And this is a good example why the world is going to st.

That doesn't really answer my question.

It is really not a question that needs answering.

I would disagree. Fire fighters are away from their base a lot. They take everything they need on a big truck. Why don't they have the ability to have a drink at their place of work.

Relying on a minimum wage monkey to give free stuff to them is poor planning.

You can't just use the excuse that they are fire fighters so it should be free.

Yes it would be nice if they has got some free stuff, but it's not an entitlement.

[Ilovejapcrap]

Noodle1982 said:

Why on earth should McDonalds, or any other shop for that matter, provide free hot drinks to fire fighters?

I’m sure I’ll get slated for this, but I kinda agree. Fully grown men often a lot of time to plan as they are not always out fighting fires etc, when they do they expect a private individual to sort it out. Seems rather silly and expectant to me.

[TooMany2cvs]

98elise said:

You can't just use the excuse that they are fire fighters so it should be free.

I think that's exactly what he IS working from.

It's the same as the creeping yankification and deification of the military <points back to "thanks for your service" comment>.

People choose to do a particular job. It's an important job. So are plenty of others.

[Volvo1956]

Have Trumpton not heard of flasks/ insulated food vessels?
I'm sure there'd be room on the truck to accommodate such things.
With all the down time they have at base you'd have thought someone would have been to plan for this situation in general.
A few crates of water from Aldi / Lidl etc shouldn't be too much of a strain on coffers of the FB or on an individual basis.
I'm also sure there's room in the truck for a few quid in a kitty for such an eventuality.
Each member puts a fiver in??
To say no one had a bean on them is a bit weak.
All it needs is a coffee water and doughnuts fund on board.
Not too difficult.

[hutchst]

If you were to rank firemen's entitlement alongside the level of their duty to us, there is an argument that they're entitled to nothing. In UK law, health workers, ambulance drivers, paramedics, doctors, nurses and suchlike owe all of us individually a legal duty of care to treat us expeditiously and competently. Policemen have a lesser duty, in that they do owe a legal duty of care to us all as the public at large, but not to any particular one of us as an individual.

As for firemen, they owe no-one whatsoever a legal duty of care . There is no obligation placed on them in law to come and put out your fire, either expeditiously, or at all, as events at Manchester and Grenfell show. I'm not criticising, because it's a tough gig and I wouldn't want to be in their boots. But it is an anomoly in UK law that I don't understand.

[Rick101]

JPJPJP said:

‘A spokesperson for the fire service said: "North Yorkshire Fire and Rescue Service has a welfare unit which provides refreshments to our firefighters at large incidents and this (welfare unit) did attend the incident at Clifton Moor, York on Saturday evening.‘

And again for those that have missed it.

A total bullst story created to generate 'likes'.

[waynedear]

El stovey said:

I think McDonald’s should give free drinks to firemen putting out a fire but it’s probably not as easy as it sounds.

Do the police get free stuff in McDonald’s or elsewhere? What about nurses or doctors or the rnli or the armed forces?

Should the firemen get free stuff if they’re actually on a break while from putting out a fire, what if they’re going to work?

What if you ran a coffee shop near a fire station and firemen came in every day wanting free stuff on the way home from work?

I’m all for supporting firemen or nurses etc but what do people think is reasonable?

I can only answer the RNLI bit, then I can only answer from my personal instances.
Yes I got free/discount stuff If it was offered, none of us would ever dream of asking for it.
When we were going out on an emergency call we knew we had fresh water, crisps and tinned fish as they were put there every week specifically for emergencies

[austinsmirk]

surely, a fireman has more ability to warm some water up for a brew, than any one else, profession wise ?

apart from perhaps steam engine drivers stood on a hot plate or maybe blast furnace workers ?

[jonby]

Jasandjules said:

Noodle1982 said:

Why on earth should McDonalds, or any other shop for that matter, provide free hot drinks to fire fighters?

Say that out loud, nice and slowly. See how it sounds.....

Loads of good causes and it's very easy for people to have a go, but this is essentially about charity. Which is voluntary. In every instance. Regardless of the positive PR they may have received for doing it, it is simply unreasonable to have a go at anyone, business or private individual, for not carrying out a charitable gesture. The clue is in the voluntary nature of all charity.

[Volvo1956]

Rick101 said:

And again for those that have missed it.

A total bullst story created to generate 'likes'.

How exactly do you know that it is a total bullst story?
On what facts do you base that assumption.
Have you for example made enquiries with the staff at that particular McDonalds.
McDonald's themselves have acknowledged things could have been done differently.
So I think if it was a bullst story McDonald's would have likely said the same thing.

[Volvo1956]

I'm sure a Trumpton Truck has a 12 volt socket.
Is it not beyond their capabilities to club together to invest in a 12 v kettle..... few T bags/ coffee sugar etc.
Let's face it they have a ready access to water!!!
Sometimes you have to help yourselves in life rather than expect others to give you an easy option.
Whatever the true facts behind these events it's a non story.
The McDonald's near Grenfell must have taken some hammer.&#128521;&#128521;

[TooMany2cvs]

Volvo1956 said:

How exactly do you know that it is a total bullst story?
On what facts do you base that assumption.

Have you read the thread?

This isn't a criminal court - "beyond reasonable doubt" is irrelevant. But "on the balance of probability"? We're well past that...

[JuniorD]

Has this thread actually been able to confirm if the incident happened at all?

[Volvo1956]

TooMany2cvs said:

Have you read the thread?

This isn't a criminal court - "beyond reasonable doubt" is irrelevant. But "on the balance of probability"? We're well past that...

I certainly have read it yes but have you?
What exactly are you saying?
What's a criminal/ civil court liability got to do with it?
Please enlighten me.

[ciege]

JuniorD said:

Has this thread actually been able to confirm if the incident happened at all?

No it's like every other bloody thread, an argument.

[Volvo1956]

JuniorD said:

Has this thread actually been able to confirm if the incident happened at all?

I doubt very much it didn't take place.
Otherwise why would McDonald's PLC acknowledge it did.
I'm sure they would distance themselves from it and confirm it as a nonsense story.

[Volvo1956]

JuniorD said:

Has this thread actually been able to confirm if the incident happened at all?

Obviously not. However if there is any semblance of truth in it then let's hope it spurs Trumpton into getting themselves better organised brew wise.

[JuniorD]

Volvo1956 said:

JuniorD said:

Has this thread actually been able to confirm if the incident happened at all?

I doubt very much it didn't take place.
Otherwise why would McDonald's PLC acknowledge it did.
I'm sure they would distance themselves from it and confirm it as a nonsense story.

OK, so if the McDonald's statement is evidence that the incident happened as described, does anyone know the melting point of a brass neck?