Delahaye 135s build

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DanCat

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Monday 15th October 2018
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Following from this thread

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

I've finally found the time to post the pictures of the Delahaye 135s body I built.

The car arrived complete with a radiator, steel shroud with grill and an ash frame.


[pic] Delahaye101 by Dan Clazey, on Flickr[/pic]


It seems that 135s' had three different body styles- I believe this was due to various regulations at Le Mans. Two with boat tails, a shorter and longer version.



and also a 'chisel' shaped rear

[pichttps://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0d/Paris_-_RM_Auctions_-_5_f%C3%A9vrier_2014_-Delahaye_135_S_-_1936_-_001.jpg[/pic]





DanCat

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Monday 15th October 2018
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DanCat

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294 posts

213 months

Monday 15th October 2018
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It was the 'chisel' shaped rear that my customer wanted for his car. We had hoped it would be possible to modify just the rear of the ash frame but it soon became clear that it would be quicker and make a far better job if I started again.


[pic] Delahaye102 by Dan Clazey, on Flickr[/pic]

[pic] Delahaye103 by Dan Clazey, on Flickr[/pic]

As I'd already made a start on a wire buck for the body when checking if we could use the first ash frame I was able to use this to build the new frame. You can also see in this picture my cardboard fuel tank and spare wheel are already in place. Its the spare that defines the rear shape of the car.

[pic] Delahaye104 by Dan Clazey, on Flickr[/pic]


The ash frame is coming together here and the doors have been made

[pic] Delahaye109 by Dan Clazey, on Flickr[/pic]

lukeharding

2,947 posts

89 months

Monday 15th October 2018
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Looks fantastic!

3.8 MOD

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188 months

Monday 15th October 2018
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The finished body looks gorgeous!
Will the brasswork be nickel plated?
(That would be my preference)
Bravo!

B'stard Child

28,388 posts

246 months

Monday 15th October 2018
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Good thread

Following on from another thread - if you are copying BBCode links from Flickr you don't need to add forum code to it (ie leave the [pic] tags which you are adding thinking they are needed

DanCat

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Monday 15th October 2018
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3.8 MOD said:
The finished body looks gorgeous!
Will the brasswork be nickel plated?
(That would be my preference)
Bravo!
Nickell was the plan, the plated parts I fitted were in that finish. The radiator shell came to me with the brasswork already soldered to the steel shell, it was a really nice job. There was no way to plate this other than plate the whole thing and then paint the panels. Some cars seem to have completely painted rad shells.

In the end, Tony, the owner, has decided to leave it bare brass which I think will work well with the blue. I had the windscreen pillars cast in bronze/gun metal which will also be left in the same finish.


B-stard child- thanks again for the advice.

DanCat

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Monday 15th October 2018
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With the ash frame together I was able to start in the body panels.

Delahaye106 by Dan Clazey, on Flickr

Each wing was made in four sections, the rear halves were made of three pieces

Delahaye105 by Dan Clazey, on Flickr

Delahaye107 by Dan Clazey, on Flickr

The four wings are almost complete here, waiting to be wired.


Delahaye36 by Dan Clazey, on Flickr

TooMany2cvs

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126 months

Monday 15th October 2018
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That's bloody glorious, Dan.

Not for this topic - this one's just for that luscious Delahaye - but I'd be really interested to see some in-process pics and description of how you're doing the metalshaping. The only times I've tried taking a hammer to metal, it's ended up worse.

DanCat

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Tuesday 16th October 2018
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TooMany2cvs said:
That's bloody glorious, Dan.

Not for this topic - this one's just for that luscious Delahaye - but I'd be really interested to see some in-process pics and description of how you're doing the metalshaping. The only times I've tried taking a hammer to metal, it's ended up worse.
The panels on this car were all wheeled, gas welded and hand finished. I do have a Pullmax which I have various tooling for including shrinking dies and doming tools- I used these on the interior floor.

Is there anything in particular you are interested in?

DanCat

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Tuesday 16th October 2018
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The main body panels coming together. I used the wire buck I had made again

Delahaye10 by Dan Clazey, on Flickr

Delahaye12 by Dan Clazey, on Flickr

Delahaye11 by Dan Clazey, on Flickr

Rear body coming together- The ash frame doesn't extend this far back so positioning this section took some careful measurement.

Delahaye14 by Dan Clazey, on Flickr

The rear body is on and I'm wrapping the front body here

Delahaye15 by Dan Clazey, on Flickr

I made wire bucks up headlight/ under bonnet panels

Delahaye16 by Dan Clazey, on Flickr

Delahaye20 by Dan Clazey, on Flickr


Folding up the bonnet

Delahaye18 by Dan Clazey, on Flickr

Beaulieu Autojumble September 2017 Now with doors and the middle chassis cover section fitted

Delahaye22 by Dan Clazey, on Flickr

Graculus

143 posts

126 months

Wednesday 17th October 2018
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That is fabulous!

Wonderful to see these skills being kept alive.

Have you any videos of the process?

AndrewO

652 posts

183 months

Wednesday 17th October 2018
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https://online.handh.co.uk/m/lot-details/index/cat...

Saw one of these at auction....1936 evocation.....estimate £150k

TooMany2cvs

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126 months

Wednesday 17th October 2018
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DanCat said:
TooMany2cvs said:
That's bloody glorious, Dan.

Not for this topic - this one's just for that luscious Delahaye - but I'd be really interested to see some in-process pics and description of how you're doing the metalshaping. The only times I've tried taking a hammer to metal, it's ended up worse.
The panels on this car were all wheeled, gas welded and hand finished. I do have a Pullmax which I have various tooling for including shrinking dies and doming tools- I used these on the interior floor.

Is there anything in particular you are interested in?
...all of it...

The process from starting with a sheet of flat metal through. I understand the basic processes, but it's how they all link together to go from that flat sheet to something as multi-planed curvaceous as THAT...

dbdb

4,326 posts

173 months

Wednesday 17th October 2018
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Astonishing skills and a pleasure to see.

DanCat

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213 months

Thursday 18th October 2018
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TooMany2cvs said:
...all of it...

The process from starting with a sheet of flat metal through. I understand the basic processes, but it's how they all link together to go from that flat sheet to something as multi-planed curvaceous as THAT...
I am almost ready to make a set of stone guard for my current job, these should cover all the skills you want to see. I'll experiment with a video....

DanCat

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Thursday 18th October 2018
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Back from Beaulieu Autojumble and it was time to start on the underside. These cars are completely enclosed, with only the sump visible from below and this is flush with the undertrays. I added 'inside out' louvres to the rear panel to help reduce pressure here.

Delahaye24 by Dan Clazey, on Flickr

I also completed the headlight area. Some of the original cars had a separate valance-lower headlight panel. After speaking with Tony, the owner, this is the design we came up with.


Delahaye27 by Dan Clazey, on Flickr

And with the headlamps fitted- I turned up mounting bosses to accept these.

Delahaye28 by Dan Clazey, on Flickr

The boot lid frame in place with the hinges tacked on. The weight of the spare wheel is carried on a bracket bolted to the chassis.

Delahaye26 by Dan Clazey, on Flickr

Ayahuasca

27,427 posts

279 months

Thursday 18th October 2018
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Beautiful work!

How much to build one of those?


Sebring440

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Thursday 18th October 2018
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Ayahuasca said:
Beautiful work!

How much to build one of those?
If you have to ask, you can't afford it.

DanCat

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213 months

Friday 19th October 2018
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Ayahuasca said:
Beautiful work!

How much to build one of those?
Given that I've mentioned the owners name I don't think it's fair to discuss the price. There was over 1000 in the build though, to produce a car to the owners specification. A truly bespoke item.
Even the off the shelf items such as the aero filler caps and the windscreen are unique to this car.

Given the price the price of the car in the H&H auction mentioned above I think there is plenty of money left in the build.
Plus to my eyes that car has the incorrect, narrow saloon axle fitted.