Bercow resigning as Speaker

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Mojooo

12,720 posts

180 months

Monday 4th November 2019
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In any case I hardly doubt the last 10 years have been 'wasted' - aside from a couple of incidents re Brexit where has he actually ever stopped something from happening properly in the Commons

Can't say much about bullying as I don't know much about it.

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 4th November 2019
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Very pleased with Mr Hoyles election.
Pleased that the call for the sisterhood has been rejected

williamp

19,256 posts

273 months

Monday 4th November 2019
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And the bells of big ben ring out in celebration. Rejoice!

zygalski

7,759 posts

145 months

Tuesday 5th November 2019
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techiedave said:
Very pleased with Mr Hoyles election.
Pleased that the call for the sisterhood has been rejected
What an odd bloke you are.

Zirconia

36,010 posts

284 months

Tuesday 5th November 2019
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Amateurish said:
Non of the main 3 parties stand against the speaker. Ukip, BNP and the greens all stood against bercow as well as a bloke dressed as a dolphin.

I wrote to him about a matter I wanted him to raise and he basically wrote back saying, terribly sorry I'm not allowed to be political. Pretty useless as my elected MP then.
OK. Understood.

techguyone

3,137 posts

142 months

Tuesday 5th November 2019
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zygalski said:
techiedave said:
Very pleased with Mr Hoyles election.
Pleased that the call for the sisterhood has been rejected
What an odd bloke you are.
not at all, Harperson in the chair would have been a backward step.

Blackpuddin

16,509 posts

205 months

Tuesday 5th November 2019
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This graph from the BBC tells you how much windbaggery Bercow did in his time, roughly five times that of recent previous Speakers.
If you divide the amount of Parliamentary time by the number of MPs (650), each MP should in an ideal 'fair world' get 0.15% of the talking time available. Bercow talked for over 2.5% of the time available, ie nearly 17 times as much as the ideal individual MP's 'allocation'.



XCP

16,914 posts

228 months

Tuesday 5th November 2019
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It all makes one wonder why Bercow was elected to the position in the first place.

Mothersruin

8,573 posts

99 months

Tuesday 5th November 2019
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XCP said:
It all makes one wonder why Bercow was elected to the position in the first place.
Wasn't he voted in by a Labour majority house then? While he ran under a Tory banner, he was always a Labour stooge. or rather, anti-Tory for some reason.

CoolC

4,216 posts

214 months

Tuesday 5th November 2019
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Blackpuddin said:
This graph from the BBC tells you how much windbaggery Bercow did in his time, roughly five times that of recent previous Speakers.
If you divide the amount of Parliamentary time by the number of MPs (650), each MP should in an ideal 'fair world' get 0.15% of the talking time available. Bercow talked for over 2.5% of the time available, ie nearly 17 times as much as the ideal individual MP's 'allocation'.

Go and get a degree in data analytics or statistics and get a job starting and stopping a stopwatch when a certain person speaks biggrin

bucksmanuk

2,311 posts

170 months

Tuesday 5th November 2019
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A Lancastrian – excellent! awaits “ear bashing” from the other side… biglaugh
Wrong side of the political divide for me, but one can’t have everything…
Hope he doesn’t cock it up.
Hopefully Bercow will find a position more closely aligned to his talents.

kev1974

4,029 posts

129 months

Tuesday 5th November 2019
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Mothersruin said:
XCP said:
It all makes one wonder why Bercow was elected to the position in the first place.
Wasn't he voted in by a Labour majority house then? While he ran under a Tory banner, he was always a Labour stooge. or rather, anti-Tory for some reason.
In this BBC film about his rise to power it mentions that he ran a very well organised campaign to get the job, they implied it was far and above a more managed campaign than anyone had bothered before to get the role of speaker.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m000b40l/ber...

It's quite a good film and worth a watch if you're a fan of old footage. Even if just to see how he has all the same mannerisms and gestures decades ago when he was just a lad.

Blackpuddin

16,509 posts

205 months

Tuesday 5th November 2019
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CoolC said:
Blackpuddin said:
This graph from the BBC tells you how much windbaggery Bercow did in his time, roughly five times that of recent previous Speakers.
If you divide the amount of Parliamentary time by the number of MPs (650), each MP should in an ideal 'fair world' get 0.15% of the talking time available. Bercow talked for over 2.5% of the time available, ie nearly 17 times as much as the ideal individual MP's 'allocation'.

Go and get a degree in data analytics or statistics and get a job starting and stopping a stopwatch when a certain person speaks biggrin
hehe Never let the reality get in the way of a good story.

Elderly

3,493 posts

238 months

Tuesday 5th November 2019
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Amateurish said:
I wrote to him about a matter I wanted him to raise and he basically wrote back saying, terribly sorry I'm not allowed to be political. Pretty useless as my elected MP then.
He is/was our local MP and myself, and others I know in the area when raising issues with him have always found that he writes back promptly,
passes the matter to the relevant ministry head, and copies us in with all correspondence.

Maybe - looking at where you live in your profile (Warks. & France), Bercow is not your MP?

Amateurish

7,737 posts

222 months

Tuesday 5th November 2019
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Elderly said:
He is/was our local MP and myself, and others I know in the area when raising issues with him have always found that he writes back promptly,
passes the matter to the relevant ministry head, and copies us in with all correspondence.

Maybe - looking at where you live in your profile (Warks. & France), Bercow is not your MP?
Well, I think we are on the same page i.e. he can't deal with the matter himself and has to refer any questions to the relevant govt department? So he can't represent his constituents' interests in Parliament?

I do agree that he wrote back promptly though. And yes, he was my MP.

Although I suppose my main complaint was that I was prevented from voting for the party of which I am a member.

BlackLabel

13,251 posts

123 months

Tuesday 5th November 2019
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Never seen so many Tories this excited about the elevation of a Labour MP to a top parliamentary post - Bercow has achieved the unachievable.


anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 5th November 2019
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I feel Harriet needs consoling. I think some nice underwear some red roses and my tried and tested box of Ferrero Rocher will be just the thing

BlackLabel

13,251 posts

123 months

Wednesday 6th November 2019
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“Days after bowing out as Speaker of the House of Commons, John Bercow has described Brexit as the biggest mistake Britain has made since the second world war.”

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/nov/06/j...

Blackpuddin

16,509 posts

205 months

Wednesday 6th November 2019
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He has plenty of previous when it comes to jumping on whatever raft best suits his ambition.

bucksmanuk

2,311 posts

170 months

Wednesday 6th November 2019
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techiedave said:
I feel Harriet needs consoling. I think some nice underwear some red roses and my tried and tested box of Ferrero Rocher will be just the thing
You are a very bad man.....biglaugh