The People's Vote - which way would you vote?

[psi310398]

Helicopter123 said:

Latest Poll

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/first-pol...

48% in favour of a second Poll, 34% against.

54/46 margin for Remain.

YouGov interviewed 1,153 people in Great Britain on November 14 and 15, 2018

Time for a Peoples's Vote.

You mean this poll?



Oh dear, has little Gideon been spinning again?

[otis criblecoblis]

Helicopter123 said:

otis criblecoblis said:

Helicopter123 said:

Latest Poll

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/first-pol...

48% in favour of a second Poll, 34% against.

54/46 margin for Remain.

YouGov interviewed 1,153 people in Great Britain on November 14 and 15, 2018

Time for a Peoples's Vote.

Even at it's worst point , you still only get 54% for remain ? After 2 and a bit years of trying desperately to either wreck or overturn the vote, you've shifted 6% ?
It's a pity Remain spent so much time and effort ensuring a second vote was never going to be an option, or it might not look so silly now to ask for one.

Focus instead on the will of the people, which clearly now demands a say. Who knows how a second vote would ultimately end up, but the point is that demand for a Poll has grown very significantly.

I think your ' will of the people' concern is a new one that had no basis when offering the 2016 referendum, but is only temporary for a second one for the chance to reverse the result, at which point you'll revert to no referendum/ will of the people.
The great Remain mistake was to talk a touch too often about 'once in a generation vote' when it thought a win was a cert.

[Helicopter123]

psi310398 said:

Helicopter123 said:

Latest Poll

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/first-pol...

48% in favour of a second Poll, 34% against.

54/46 margin for Remain.

YouGov interviewed 1,153 people in Great Britain on November 14 and 15, 2018

Time for a Peoples's Vote.

You mean this poll?



Oh dear, has little Gideon been spinning again?

Wow, by far the most popular bar on your Poll is 'Britain should stop Brexit and remain in the EU after all'

Thank you for highlighting.

[psi310398]

Helicopter123 said:

psi310398 said:

Helicopter123 said:

Latest Poll

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/first-pol...

48% in favour of a second Poll, 34% against.

54/46 margin for Remain.

YouGov interviewed 1,153 people in Great Britain on November 14 and 15, 2018

Time for a Peoples's Vote.

You mean this poll?



Oh dear, has little Gideon been spinning again?

Wow, by far the most popular bar on your Poll is 'Britain should stop Brexit and remain in the EU after all'

Thank you for highlighting.

Wow! You are right.

Now let's go through the numbers: Just 8% support the idea of having a second referendum. Add that 8% to the people who want to stop Brexit by other means, and only 36% of voters would like to see the result of the referendum reversed.

In contrast, if you add together the different Brexit options you will find that 46% of voters are in favour of EU withdrawal.

No need to thank me again.

[Helicopter123]

psi310398 said:

Helicopter123 said:

psi310398 said:

Helicopter123 said:

Latest Poll

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/first-pol...

48% in favour of a second Poll, 34% against.

54/46 margin for Remain.

YouGov interviewed 1,153 people in Great Britain on November 14 and 15, 2018

Time for a Peoples's Vote.

You mean this poll?



Oh dear, has little Gideon been spinning again?

Wow, by far the most popular bar on your Poll is 'Britain should stop Brexit and remain in the EU after all'

Thank you for highlighting.

Wow! You are right.

Now let's go through the numbers: Just 8% support the idea of having a second referendum. Add that 8% to the people who want to stop Brexit by other means, and only 36% of voters would like to see the result of the referendum reversed.

In contrast, if you add together the different Brexit options you will find that 46% of voters are in favour of EU withdrawal.

No need to thank me again.

Why are you selectively quoting the data? It's almost as if you have an agenda...

If you HAD to choose between the following,
which would you prefer?

1. Britain leaving the EU without any deal - 46%
2. Britain having a new referendum on whether or not to leave the EU - 54

https://yougov.co.uk/(popup:search/brexit)

If you are going to Troll, please try harder.

[psi310398]

Helicopter123 said:

Why are you selectively quoting the data? It's almost as if you have an agenda...

If you HAD to choose between the following,
which would you prefer?

1. Britain leaving the EU without any deal - 46%
2. Britain having a new referendum on whether or not to leave the EU - 54

https://yougov.co.uk/(popup:search/brexit)

If you are going to Troll, please try harder.

Actually, you are.

The question I'm citing is open and offers the full range of possibilities (i.e. a free choice). The one you are citing is deliberately closed and binary (if I put a gun to your head and made you choose). I am sure you can see the difference.

[Tuna]

Helicopter123 said:

Why are you selectively quoting the data? It's almost as if you have an agenda...

I hate the having to spell check the word hypocrisy but in your case I'll make an exception.

From that poll (that you seem to think is valid) just 8% want a second referendum. 8%.

[Troubleatmill]

don'tbesilly said:

Helicopter123 said:

Latest Poll

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/first-pol...

48% in favour of a second Poll, 34% against.

54/46 margin for Remain.

YouGov interviewed 1,153 people in Great Britain on November 14 and 15, 2018

Time for a Peoples's Vote.

You need to tell May, she said there wouldn't be one at least 6 times in the HoC yesterday, and again in the subsequent PC.

Keep it up though.

Don't encourage him - it is bad enough he is taking the Nicola Sturgeon response of not answering any questions.

[Troubleatmill]

psi310398 said:

Helicopter123 said:

Why are you selectively quoting the data? It's almost as if you have an agenda...

If you HAD to choose between the following,
which would you prefer?

1. Britain leaving the EU without any deal - 46%
2. Britain having a new referendum on whether or not to leave the EU - 54

https://yougov.co.uk/(popup:search/brexit)

If you are going to Troll, please try harder.

Actually, you are.

The question I'm citing is open and offers the full range of possibilities (i.e. a free choice). The one you are citing is deliberately closed and binary (if I put a gun to your head and made you choose). I am sure you can see the difference.

I'm seriously giving serious consideration to wagering a bk he really doesn't.

[JuanCarlosFandango]

Leave down to 49% now. The Russian magic spell is wearing off.

[Troubleatmill]

JuanCarlosFandango said:

Leave down to 49% now. The Russian magic spell is wearing off.

What is 49 + 9?


Clue: The answer is not 49.

[gooner1]

Helicopter123 said:

Why are you selectively quoting the data? It's almost as if you have an agenda...

If you HAD to choose between the following,
which would you prefer?

1. Britain leaving the EU without any deal - 46%
2. Britain having a new referendum on whether or not to leave the EU - 54

https://yougov.co.uk/(popup:search/brexit)

If you are going to Troll, please try harder.

Re Trolling, Perhaps you could pass on some tips.
Re Agenda. What about having one do you object to?

[djc206]

Tuna said:

I hate the having to spell check the word hypocrisy but in your case I'll make an exception.

From that poll (that you seem to think is valid) just 8% want a second referendum. 8%.

In fairness that is not at all what that poll says. It says that a second ref is the preferred option of just 8% which makes sense given all other options are available to choose from, in fact I’m not really sure how those 8% can’t be satisfied by one of the other options.

[JuanCarlosFandango]

Troubleatmill said:

JuanCarlosFandango said:

Leave down to 49% now. The Russian magic spell is wearing off.

What is 49 + 9?


Clue: The answer is not 49.

Oh I was tracking proper leave a few pages back. Not counting Chequers.

[Troubleatmill]

JuanCarlosFandango said:

Troubleatmill said:

JuanCarlosFandango said:

Leave down to 49% now. The Russian magic spell is wearing off.

What is 49 + 9?


Clue: The answer is not 49.

Oh I was tracking proper leave a few pages back. Not counting Chequers.

Yes - because LEAVE does not include "LEAVE WITH A DEAL"

[Tuna]

djc206 said:

Tuna said:

I hate the having to spell check the word hypocrisy but in your case I'll make an exception.

From that poll (that you seem to think is valid) just 8% want a second referendum. 8%.

In fairness that is not at all what that poll says. It says that a second ref is the preferred option of just 8% which makes sense given all other options are available to choose from, in fact I’m not really sure how those 8% can’t be satisfied by one of the other options.

I was applying Helicopter's rigorous approach to statistics

[Crackie]

Helicopter123 said:

Who knows how a second vote would ultimately end up, but the point is that demand for a Poll has grown very significantly.

I've not seen 'numbers' demanding to take part in a poll...…..was there a march somewhere?

[anonymous-user]

This gets my vote

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/221747?fb...

[Troubleatmill]

Tuna said:

I was applying Helicopter's rigorous approach to statistics

I've just seen Chopper's tutor for statistics.




"Look - my bar is longer than all the other bars - so I must be winning"

Edited by Troubleatmill on Saturday 17th November 16:22

[Robertj21a]

Helicopter 123 is busy - he's posting about his support for the 'Rebellion Day' climate change protesters, who have blocked off 5 bridges in London today.