The People's Vote - which way would you vote?

[don'tbesilly]

Trolleys Thank You said:

don'tbesilly said:

Trolleys Thank You said:

don'tbesilly said:

Staying as was back in June 2016, is not a viable/realistic option.

Post up what the terms of our 'new' relationship will be with the EU should there be a 2nd referendum with a Remain result, and you'd get a more balanced result.

'People's vote'!

I sense someone is scared at the prospect of the status quo being an option.

It's not an option:

“Emanuel Macron, the new French President, spoke about an open door.

I agree,” Mr Verhofstadt said. “But like Alice in Wonderland not all the doors are the same. It will be a brand new door, with a new Europe, a Europe without rebates, without complexity, with real powers and with unity. That is the door towards Europe.”

Translate the above to what the 'new' terms will be, and it's a landslide for Leave in a 2nd referendum.

Bring it on

Boom!

We can stay in on the same terms. The EU and French government have said as much.

You don't want it to be an option as you know it would drastically harm a leave vote. You'd rather take an option off of the table for the British people, one they may or may not want just to fulfil your own Brexit fantasy. So much for democracy...

Poor Trolleys is getting all upset because I won't take the option off the table, the option being reality, which destroys his dream.

It wasn't me who took it off the table it was his chum the odious Belgian Verhofstadt.

You need some more SSRI's Fella, some more to stop the continuing angst, a double dose for the reality of the dream being nothing of the sort, it's dead, like a 2nd referendum, or a 'People's vote'.

#PrayforTrolleys.

[Trolleys Thank You]

Vanden Saab said:

citizensm1th said:

I don't think it will be a surprise how this will go on here,
Thankfully ph is not representative of the UK as a whole.

compared to the last Brexit poll the figures really are not going the way some suggest...


Voted brexit and would do again: 51%
Voted remain and would do again: 33%
Voted brexit and would now vote remain: 4%
Voted remain and would now vote brexit : 4%
Didn’t vote and would vote brexit : 2%
Didn’t vote and would vote remain: 3%
Would refuse to vote again. : 2%

In fact it seems to be going the other way...

Looks like their sampling is way off. The proportion of leave voters in that poll is massively higher than the actual 34% of the overall electorate who voted leave. So the results for both sides in that poll are massively skewed. Not worth the disk space it's written to.

[Supercilious Sid]

Trolleys Thank You said:

B'stard Child said:

Hayek said:

Anyone else seen the 'Peoples Vote' latest video advertising their march on October 20th...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wn0leX11A1k

81 likes, 8.1K dislikes.

That video is fantastic

That is hilarious tbh. Thousands of Gammon and bots with nothing better to do than vote on YouTube videos as if it proves anything.

“youth considers itself wise like a drunk man thinking himself sober”.

[don'tbesilly]

Trolleys Thank You said:

Vanden Saab said:

citizensm1th said:

I don't think it will be a surprise how this will go on here,
Thankfully ph is not representative of the UK as a whole.

compared to the last Brexit poll the figures really are not going the way some suggest...


Voted brexit and would do again: 51%
Voted remain and would do again: 33%
Voted brexit and would now vote remain: 4%
Voted remain and would now vote brexit : 4%
Didn’t vote and would vote brexit : 2%
Didn’t vote and would vote remain: 3%
Would refuse to vote again. : 2%

In fact it seems to be going the other way...

Looks like their sampling is way off. The proportion of leave voters in that poll is massively higher than the actual 34% of the overall electorate who voted leave. So the results for both sides in that poll are massively skewed. Not worth the disk space it's written to.

It doesn't give the right message so it's skewed.



#Prayfortherightresultpoll

Disk space....................

[The Selfish Gene]

I think the general public are sick of the EU treating us like wkers.

I'd be fairly certain if there was another vote (which there must not be if we value democracy) the result would be a more resounding fk off to the EU.

As basically - the Brits don't like being told what to do by jonny foreigner.

I voted remain.

Today I would vote to leave.

[Trolleys Thank You]

don'tbesilly said:

It doesn't give the right message so it's skewed.



#Prayfortherightresultpoll

Disk space....................

If someone held a poll where 60% of the people asked had voted remain originally and then try to gleam from that changes in current voting intentions, you'd rightly call bullst.

There's no difference here.

[Vanden Saab]

Trolleys Thank You said:

Vanden Saab said:

citizensm1th said:

I don't think it will be a surprise how this will go on here,
Thankfully ph is not representative of the UK as a whole.

compared to the last Brexit poll the figures really are not going the way some suggest...


Voted brexit and would do again: 51%
Voted remain and would do again: 33%
Voted brexit and would now vote remain: 4%
Voted remain and would now vote brexit : 4%
Didn’t vote and would vote brexit : 2%
Didn’t vote and would vote remain: 3%
Would refuse to vote again. : 2%

In fact it seems to be going the other way...

Looks like their sampling is way off. The proportion of leave voters in that poll is massively higher than the actual 34% of the overall electorate who voted leave. So the results for both sides in that poll are massively skewed. Not worth the disk space it's written to.

Ha ha that was the last PH Brexit poll......did I not make that clear Oooops…..

[Trolleys Thank You]

Vanden Saab said:

Trolleys Thank You said:

Vanden Saab said:

citizensm1th said:

I don't think it will be a surprise how this will go on here,
Thankfully ph is not representative of the UK as a whole.

compared to the last Brexit poll the figures really are not going the way some suggest...


Voted brexit and would do again: 51%
Voted remain and would do again: 33%
Voted brexit and would now vote remain: 4%
Voted remain and would now vote brexit : 4%
Didn’t vote and would vote brexit : 2%
Didn’t vote and would vote remain: 3%
Would refuse to vote again. : 2%

In fact it seems to be going the other way...

Looks like their sampling is way off. The proportion of leave voters in that poll is massively higher than the actual 34% of the overall electorate who voted leave. So the results for both sides in that poll are massively skewed. Not worth the disk space it's written to.

Ha ha that was the last PH Brexit poll......

Ah, fair enough. In no way scientific/representative of the country at large then.

[CAPP0]

Hayek said:

Anyone else seen the 'Peoples Vote' latest video advertising their march on October 20th...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wn0leX11A1k

81 likes, 8.1K dislikes.

I wonder how many of those "celebs" who don't have a book/film/album to promote will actually turn out at the weekend?

[DrDeAtH]

The EU is Hotel California... You can check out anytime, but you can never leave...

Just remember, if the 'people's vote' goes the wrong way, it will then be best of 3.....

[The Selfish Gene]

DrDeAtH said:

The EU is Hotel California... You can check out anytime, but you can never leave...

Just remember, if the 'people's vote' goes the wrong way, it will then be best of 3.....

well not really - as the peoples vote is a load of st and we have had one vote, it was the peoples vote and it's binding!

[don'tbesilly]

CAPP0 said:

Hayek said:

Anyone else seen the 'Peoples Vote' latest video advertising their march on October 20th...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wn0leX11A1k

81 likes, 8.1K dislikes.

I wonder how many of those "celebs" who don't have a book/film/album to promote will actually turn out at the weekend?

1 of those is Trolleys, he loves a march, he attended one last week apparently.

81 likes, pretty pathetic by any stretch, is the march next year, and people aren't interested yet?

[Trolleys Thank You]

don'tbesilly said:

1 of those is Trolleys, he loves a march, he attended one last week apparently.

81 likes, pretty pathetic by any stretch, is the march next year, and people aren't interested yet?

Counting youtube video likes to manufacture some sort of point. And you suggested I was desperate?

[don'tbesilly]

Trolleys Thank You said:

don'tbesilly said:

1 of those is Trolleys, he loves a march, he attended one last week apparently.

81 likes, pretty pathetic by any stretch, is the march next year, and people aren't interested yet?

Counting youtube video likes to manufacture some sort of point. And you suggested I was desperate?

Err, i didn't count them, I commented on the number someone else posted, your pathetic and rather desperate response kind of missed that.

You really aren't very good at this are you

[98elise]

don'tbesilly said:

Of those who have voted it's 67% to get out of dodge and with no deal!

It can't be right ......................................

Can we have another poll, I don't think the current one stands scrutiny

It could be called the people's poll.

[Russian Troll Bot]

I voted that we should have People's Vote on the outcome of the People's Vote, since by that point people will be better informed and democracy means people are entitled to change their mind

[wc98]

i voted leave now with no deal. the alternate fannying around is likely to lead to me visiting london for some looting and burning and i really am getting too old for that

[DrDeAtH]

The Selfish Gene said:

well not really - as the peoples vote is a load of st and we have had one vote, it was the peoples vote and it's binding!

The third vote will be done by robots and domestic appliances....

[PurpleTurtle]

The Selfish Gene said:

I think the general public are sick of the EU treating us like wkers.

I'd be fairly certain if there was another vote (which there must not be if we value democracy) the result would be a more resounding fk off to the EU.

As basically - the Brits don't like being told what to do by jonny foreigner.

I voted remain.

Today I would vote to leave.

Are they treating us like wkers though? Or are they just hardballing us with ‘see who blinks first’ negotiating tactics?

I can’t believe anyone seriously thinks that the EU will just roll over and let us have the ‘sensible and orderly exit’ that is oft quoted. If they give us a good deal it precipitates the downfall of the entire EU, everyone will want the same.

It’s a Union, the clue is in the name, the members of it stand together so that they have a stronger bargaining position. Surely people anticipated this when they put an X in the leave box?

[gooner1]

PurpleTurtle said:

Are they treating us like wkers though? Or are they just hardballing us with ‘see who blinks first’ negotiating tactics?

I can’t believe anyone seriously thinks that the EU will just roll over and let us have the ‘sensible and orderly exit’ that is oft quoted. If they give us a good deal it precipitates the downfall of the entire EU, everyone will want the same.

It’s a Union, the clue is in the name, the members of it stand together so that they have a stronger bargaining position. Surely people anticipated this when they put an X in the leave box?

Why would others want to leave if we get a " sensible and orderly exit?
Are there others in this great utopian Union that are not feeling the love, are they being
held as political/economic prisoners?