Vegan extremists

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hucumber

281 posts

36 months

Saturday 2nd February
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Thesprucegoose said:
i was reading about meat being grown in labs and close to mass production, no harm to animals, would vegans still not eat it?
Morally I wouldn't have any issue with it at all, but i have gone this long without meat, and meat substitutes are getting better every day so it doesn't really appeal to me, u think it would be more appealing to people wanting to make the change to veganism rather than people who already are

Oakey

23,807 posts

155 months

Saturday 2nd February
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It still uses foetal serum doesn't it?

Davos123

5,074 posts

151 months

Saturday 2nd February
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andy_s said:
Is carnism a radical sect of the church of omnivorism?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carnism

Evanivitch

3,873 posts

61 months

Saturday 2nd February
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Thesprucegoose said:
i was reading about meat being grown in labs and close to mass production, no harm to animals, would vegans still not eat it?
There's a difference between being 'no-harm' to animals and being entirely non-animal derived.

grumbledoak

23,880 posts

172 months

Saturday 2nd February
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Oakey said:
It still uses foetal serum doesn't it?
yes Killing a pregnant cow and not eating it.
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Thesprucegoose

17,222 posts

134 months

Saturday 2nd February
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Evanivitch said:
There's a difference between being 'no-harm' to animals and being entirely non-animal derived.
the point which is a lot of vegans eat that way due the way animals are treated. a lab grown meat could be cultivated from one cow, maybe without killing it.

Thesprucegoose

17,222 posts

134 months

Saturday 2nd February
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Oakey said:
It still uses foetal serum doesn't it?
no.

DoubleD

7,213 posts

47 months

Saturday 2nd February
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I prefer to keep things more natural. Had a wonderful mixed grill earlier.

hucumber

281 posts

36 months

Saturday 2nd February
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DoubleD said:
I prefer to keep things more natural. Had a wonderful mixed grill earlier.
Good for you, well done. You must feel very clever writing that here where literally only you care

DoubleD

7,213 posts

47 months

Saturday 2nd February
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hucumber said:
DoubleD said:
I prefer to keep things more natural. Had a wonderful mixed grill earlier.
Good for you, well done. You must feel very clever writing that here where literally only you care
Yep.

LDN

6,073 posts

142 months

Sunday 3rd February
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hucumber said:
DoubleD said:
I prefer to keep things more natural. Had a wonderful mixed grill earlier.
Good for you, well done. You must feel very clever writing that here where literally only you care
Don’t worry; if you’re new to the thread; you’ll soon realise, he’s not altogether ‘there’.

hehe

LDN

6,073 posts

142 months

Sunday 3rd February
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Free Beyonce tickets... for life! Think I’ll pass. But never the less:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/newsbeat-47085214

DoubleD

7,213 posts

47 months

Sunday 3rd February
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LDN said:
hucumber said:
DoubleD said:
I prefer to keep things more natural. Had a wonderful mixed grill earlier.
Good for you, well done. You must feel very clever writing that here where literally only you care
Don’t worry; if you’re new to the thread; you’ll soon realise, he’s not altogether ‘there’.

hehe
Its true. Was a bloody good mixed grill though.

LDN

6,073 posts

142 months

Sunday 3rd February
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DoubleD said:
LDN said:
hucumber said:
DoubleD said:
I prefer to keep things more natural. Had a wonderful mixed grill earlier.
Good for you, well done. You must feel very clever writing that here where literally only you care
Don’t worry; if you’re new to the thread; you’ll soon realise, he’s not altogether ‘there’.

hehe
Its true. Was a bloody good mixed grill though.
Nice one beer

Willy Nilly

12,205 posts

106 months

Sunday 3rd February
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hucumber said:
Thesprucegoose said:
i was reading about meat being grown in labs and close to mass production, no harm to animals, would vegans still not eat it?
Morally I wouldn't have any issue with it at all, but i have gone this long without meat, and meat substitutes are getting better every day so it doesn't really appeal to me, u think it would be more appealing to people wanting to make the change to veganism rather than people who already are
If you don't like meat, don't eat it, see how much I care. But if you claim humans don't need meat, why eat meat substitutes and why make vegan sausages and why develop an artificial meat? The artificial meat is absolutely ridiculous, the last thing we need is more processed food in our diet.

There are so many mixed messages coming from the vegan lobby, for want of a better word. It's animal welfare, until it is pointed out that while things do go wrong, animal welfare is pretty good in Western Europe and the UK.

Then it's about the environment and converting good that people could eat into animal food to be converted back into human food, which is a fair point but no mention of what to go with the land we can't crop, but can grow grass for animal food never mind the millions of tonnes of bi products of the human food that instead of going to waste, get converted into food.

Then it's about humans not really needing to eat meat, even though we have been eating it for thousands of years, or is it we can manage (not thrive, manage) without it, not mention of where all of these substitutes are going to be grown or the processes involved in converting oats, soy, almond or whatever into something that looks like milk if you don't study it too closely and doesn't have the nutritional value.

I have had MURDERER shouted at me for poisoning mice on the horse yard, after they complain about mouse holes in rugs and the yard cat got shouted at for eating mice. He was a fking cat, he eats mice. But it's fine to keep a horse in a wooden box.

It's fine with me if you keep leaning on the livestock sector for better welfare as long as they then don't have to compete on price with lower welfare imports.

It's fine with me if you choose not to eat meat

It's fine with me if you point out to people that they really don't need to eat so much meat and to eat more veg.

It's fine with me if you just eat more expensive higher welfare meat.

What's not fine is a group of you wearing masks protesting in town last week showing a picture of one poorly chicken that was probably in a shed with 50,000 healthy birds in it.

It's not fine to intimidate a farm or business that produces animals

It's not fine to intimidate the businesses that supply those businesses when you can no longer protest outside their premisses because of court orders.

It's not fine to pass off old footage of animal abuse that wasn't even in this country as current practise in the UK.

It's easy to forget that in 2019 in the UK we have more cheap, high quality food than we could ever imagine and you are still not satisfied.

grumbledoak

23,880 posts

172 months

Sunday 3rd February
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Can I add

It's not fine to inflict this on others. Humans need meat to thrive. Babies require animal products to survive. That reality is not altered by how Holy your diet makes you feel.
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/18574603/ns/us_news-crim...

Mort7

224 posts

47 months

Sunday 3rd February
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Genuine question. Not intended to be provocative at all. Really. Just interested to know.

Do vegan bikers wear leathers?

Biker 1

3,066 posts

58 months

Sunday 3rd February
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There's a tt in my area who drives around a van with 'meat causes cancer, go vegan now' written down the side in large letters. I wonder what his 'research' methodology was.

Biker 1

3,066 posts

58 months

Sunday 3rd February
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Mort7 said:
Genuine question. Not intended to be provocative at all. Really. Just interested to know.

Do vegan bikers wear leathers?
Probably wear textile gear. But then, if they're vegan, they're usually 'green', so wouldn't be petrolheads/bikers anyway. Sorry, but I see most of them as quite pathetic killjoys. They should rename the green party 'the killjoy party'....

LDN

6,073 posts

142 months

Sunday 3rd February
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Mort7 said:
Genuine question. Not intended to be provocative at all. Really. Just interested to know.

Do vegan bikers wear leathers?
Of course not. Not if they’re properly vegan. Same way my boxing gloves are not leather.