Vegan extremists
Discussion
biggbn said:
What about omnivore extremists? I am questioned about my vegetairianism daily by people who eat meat and 'can't believe YOU don't eat meat' or try to get me to taste a bit of chicken or whatever. I am not militant in anyway, I doubt you would guess i don't eat meat, I certainly don't evangelise about it, it's a personal choice. My Mrs and daughter still enjoy eating meat, doesn't bother me. Extremists exist at both ends of a spectrum, but those trying to push their belief that eating meat is OK and refusing to accept other people's choices are just as bad as vegans in gruel and lentil knit sweaters (vegan stereotype #21)
Point me to the 'omnivore extremists' standing outside (or inside) supermarkets telling you 'Don't eat Vegan or Veggie', or doing the same in the street, or intimidating - say, for argument's sake - Holland & Barrett, who sell both veggie and vegan amongst their other commodities, or intimidating a whole community because they happen to mistake their village name for something it wasn't!You can't.
Your 'friends' may misunderstand you, but that is nothing like the same as the above. Far from it!
That's the reason for the thread title.
I have no objection whatsoever as to what you eat. At all. It's your life, like mine is mine.
I've stood on this planet long enough to realise that my meat eating (and veggie and vegan!) and dairy consumption combined with eating in moderation and avoiding s
te food has resulted in it! Today the world has changed from when I was young, the problem today is there are a vociferous minorities, sometimes even violent, who do not and will not tolerate others views, and wanting to inflict their ideologies and beliefs on to others.
Doesn't work.
dandarez said:
Point me to the 'omnivore extremists' standing outside (or inside) supermarkets telling you 'Don't eat Vegan or Veggie', or doing the same in the street, or intimidating - say, for argument's sake - Holland & Barrett, who sell both veggie and vegan amongst their other commodities, or intimidating a whole community because they happen to mistake their village name for something it wasn't!
You can't.
Your 'friends' may misunderstand you, but that is nothing like the same as the above. Far from it!
That's the reason for the thread title.
I have no objection whatsoever as to what you eat. At all. It's your life, like mine is mine.
I've stood on this planet long enough to realise that my meat eating (and veggie and vegan!) and dairy consumption combined with eating in moderation and avoiding ste food has resulted in it!
Today the world has changed from when I was young, the problem today is there are a vociferous minorities, sometimes even violent, who do not and will not tolerate others views, and wanting to inflict their ideologies and beliefs on to others.
Doesn't work.
This is not friends man, total strangers question my decision every day, but I do hear ya on the militant in your face type, and yes, that is usually Mr straw Jersey and his crew, although I did have a kebab thrown over me one night, which did not work out well for the omnivore who threw it.You can't.
Your 'friends' may misunderstand you, but that is nothing like the same as the above. Far from it!
That's the reason for the thread title.
I have no objection whatsoever as to what you eat. At all. It's your life, like mine is mine.
I've stood on this planet long enough to realise that my meat eating (and veggie and vegan!) and dairy consumption combined with eating in moderation and avoiding s
te food has resulted in it! Today the world has changed from when I was young, the problem today is there are a vociferous minorities, sometimes even violent, who do not and will not tolerate others views, and wanting to inflict their ideologies and beliefs on to others.
Doesn't work.
DoubleD said:
Every day? How do they know what you eat if they are total strangers?
OK man, I'm clearly lying. You got me. Examples.. Buying takeaway food, buying shopping at Tesco with no meat or quorn in basket. If it comes up in conversation (I work in hospitality industry and as a trainer, meet many people every week..)
I have stated this is not aggressive behavior, more incredulous, but why etc...whuch on one level is fair enough...yet if I quizzed everyone as to why they eat meat, I would be labelled as some kind of eccentric weirdo.
But..this is all in my head. You clearly caught me out in a huge lie. Jeez, I ask ya..
Kenny Powers said:
Hang on. If you buy shopping at Tesco with no meat in your basket, people ask you why you’re not buying meat? I respectfully suggest you made that up.
Apologies if I’ve misinterpreted your post, but that sounds like fiction to me.
The only time anyone ever questioned me on the contents of my basket, it was to ask me where I'd found something because "they've bloody moved it again".Apologies if I’ve misinterpreted your post, but that sounds like fiction to me.
biggbn said:
DoubleD said:
Every day? How do they know what you eat if they are total strangers?
OK man, I'm clearly lying. You got me. Examples.. Buying takeaway food, buying shopping at Tesco with no meat or quorn in basket. If it comes up in conversation (I work in hospitality industry and as a trainer, meet many people every week..)
I have stated this is not aggressive behavior, more incredulous, but why etc...whuch on one level is fair enough...yet if I quizzed everyone as to why they eat meat, I would be labelled as some kind of eccentric weirdo.
But..this is all in my head. You clearly caught me out in a huge lie. Jeez, I ask ya..
Ive stood waiting in the line at a Tesco many a time, ive never seen anyone talking to random strangers asking why they havent bought some meat. People just stand waiting and staring at their phones. Nobody gives a damn what you are intending to buy, they just want you to hurry up so that they can pay for their own stuff and get home.
Man this place is outrageous. Anyone making a point people don't agree with is accused of lying? What a ridiculous way to converse. Maybe people don't talk to you out and about because you are such a confrontational miserable git? Happy to agree to disagree brother man, have a great Sunday
Kenny Powers said:
Hang on. If you buy shopping at Tesco with no meat in your basket, people ask you why you’re not buying meat? I respectfully suggest you made that up.
Apologies if I’ve misinterpreted your post, but that sounds like fiction to me.
Generally speaking it's the cashier who chats away, and the purchase of things like quorn or a lot if veg is made comment on. Hey, it's possible that it's just cuz these guys are in soul destroying jobs and they just wanna talk about anything. No problem if you don't believe it, you live your life, I live mine. Apologies if I’ve misinterpreted your post, but that sounds like fiction to me.
biggbn said:
Man this place is outrageous. Anyone making a point people don't agree with is accused of lying? What a ridiculous way to converse. Maybe people don't talk to you out and about because you are such a confrontational miserable git? Happy to agree to disagree brother man, have a great Sunday
Welcome to PH. You should try the brexit thread - there are some weapons-grade bullies on there. I am both a supporter of staying in the EU, and a vegetarian ! Indeed, I am 90% plus vegan these days and mindful to cut out animal products entirely as much as I can.
Really noticeable how people who row against the tide get singled out and attacked / called liars etc on this website. I've been called a cretin and a traitor on several occasions. They tend to hunt in packs as well as reinforce each others attacks. It like an American style fraternity club.
PH is not a good place sometimes.
I don’t think it’s as simple as calling people liars. Speaking only for myself I just find it impossible to believe that anyone would even think to comment on the lack of meat in someone’s shopping basket.
Perhaps we can settle on the story being “embellished” a little, rather than a lie. People just don’t give a st about the contents of someone else’s shopping basket, and definitely not enough to comment on something that isn’t in it. Unless they’re vegans silently judging others for their lack of lentils 
Perhaps we can settle on the story being “embellished” a little, rather than a lie. People just don’t give a s
t about the contents of someone else’s shopping basket, and definitely not enough to comment on something that isn’t in it. Unless they’re vegans silently judging others for their lack of lentils Edited by Kenny Powers on Sunday 17th February 13:19
biggbn said:
Man this place is outrageous. Anyone making a point people don't agree with is accused of lying? What a ridiculous way to converse. Maybe people don't talk to you out and about because you are such a confrontational miserable git? Happy to agree to disagree brother man, have a great Sunday
Youre the one who said that you had made it up, not me. Ha ha.A checkout girl having a chat every now and then is a bit different from this daily attack from strangers.
People are really not interested in other peoples shopping or takeaways.
Right to finally clarify this, nowhere have I said people challenge me at Tesco every day, it is an example of time and place such a challenge occurs. I have said it is more of an unbelieving questioning than an aggressive one, but it becomes tiresome. I can give you examples from last two days alone...ordered a salad kebab from a local shop and was asked why I didn't want meat, the owner found it strange that i was a vegetarian. Example two, run security in various pubs, one of which is next to a kebab shop, I was asked what the food was like, i replied don't know, was challenged as to why, and replied have never bought anything from there, am a vegetarian, cue incredulous response.
These are two examples from last 48hours alone. Of you guys wanna believe that people don't give a st, don't have a craic whatever, that's cool, I have the tangible proof of my life lived.
I once asked a friend why people find it so hard to believe i am a vegetarian and his reply was priceless, because you look like you eat PEOPLE. Maybe this is part of the problem, as a 22stone weightlifter with scars all over my head I make a fairly incongruous vegetarian?
These are two examples from last 48hours alone. Of you guys wanna believe that people don't give a s
t, don't have a craic whatever, that's cool, I have the tangible proof of my life lived. I once asked a friend why people find it so hard to believe i am a vegetarian and his reply was priceless, because you look like you eat PEOPLE. Maybe this is part of the problem, as a 22stone weightlifter with scars all over my head I make a fairly incongruous vegetarian?
Very strange company you keep.
I have been a vegetarian for 35 years, in that time I must have been shopping many thousands of times and bought meat free options from take-aways and the like many thousands more. Nobody has ever challenged me about why I'm not buying, or eating meat.
There is a cafe near me I have been eating breakfast at for years on end, eggs on toast, beans on toast, occasionally egg and chips with some bread and butter. Over the years I have become very friendly with the owner, often he will sit and have long chats about whatever was going on in the world if he had no one else to serve. After countless chats like this one day he said "I take it you're a veggie" I said "Yes". It was never mentioned again.
That's the closest I can get.
I have been a vegetarian for 35 years, in that time I must have been shopping many thousands of times and bought meat free options from take-aways and the like many thousands more. Nobody has ever challenged me about why I'm not buying, or eating meat.
There is a cafe near me I have been eating breakfast at for years on end, eggs on toast, beans on toast, occasionally egg and chips with some bread and butter. Over the years I have become very friendly with the owner, often he will sit and have long chats about whatever was going on in the world if he had no one else to serve. After countless chats like this one day he said "I take it you're a veggie" I said "Yes". It was never mentioned again.
That's the closest I can get.
Edited by br d on Sunday 17th February 17:03
br d said:
Very strange company you keep.
I have been a vegetarian for 35 years, in that time I must have been shopping many thousands of times and bought meat free options from take-aways and the like many thousands more. Nobody has ever challenged me about why I'm not buying, or eating meat.
There is a cafe near me I have been eating breakfast at for years on end, eggs on toast, beans on toast, occasionally egg and chips with some bread and butter. Over the years I have become very friendly with the owner, often he will sit and have long chats about whatever was going on in the world if he had no one else to serve. After countless chats like this one day he said "I take it you're a veggie" I said "Yes". It was never mentioned again.
That's the closest I can get.
Horses and courses brother man, good for you. Is this not a problem we have in any debate. We find the experience of others incredulous if we have not experienced similar. I find it strange that in 35years of not eating meat, few people have queried your choices, but I have no reason to disbelief you, that's YOUR lived experience. I am not exaggerating when I say diet, nutrition, choices are discussed daily in my life. Sometimes in shops, the gym, the workplace...want a bacon roll mate, oh forgot, your a veggie... I will say there seems more acceptance these days, I have not been vegetarian as long as you, dabbled all my life but exclusively for about 8 years now. Hey, am happy to accept we have differing experiences, that's what life is all about. I have been a vegetarian for 35 years, in that time I must have been shopping many thousands of times and bought meat free options from take-aways and the like many thousands more. Nobody has ever challenged me about why I'm not buying, or eating meat.
There is a cafe near me I have been eating breakfast at for years on end, eggs on toast, beans on toast, occasionally egg and chips with some bread and butter. Over the years I have become very friendly with the owner, often he will sit and have long chats about whatever was going on in the world if he had no one else to serve. After countless chats like this one day he said "I take it you're a veggie" I said "Yes". It was never mentioned again.
That's the closest I can get.
Edited by br d on Sunday 17th February 17:03
Edited by biggbn on Sunday 17th February 17:57
Bit of a role reversal, Natwest threatens to punch Vegans
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-4725...
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-4725...
untakenname said:
Bit of a role reversal, Natwest threatens to punch Vegans
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-4725...
Another pesky extremist cashier?https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-4725...
untakenname said:
Bit of a role reversal, Natwest threatens to punch Vegans
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-4725...
stupid lad TBH (and deserves censure) - though I do have to ask why she needed to advise she was a vegan when applying for loan......https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-4725...
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