Vegan extremists
Discussion
LDN said:
Kenny Powers said:
Currently I’m reading The Vegetarian Myth. It’s a fascinating book, although some of it appears to be more about feminism than vegetarianism.
Worth a look for those interested. Obviously it’s not for vegans as I’m sure it’s all a pack of lies sponsored by big meat
Never heard of it... probably along the lines of the other rubbish referenced. Worth a look for those interested. Obviously it’s not for vegans as I’m sure it’s all a pack of lies sponsored by big meat
Edited by Kenny Powers on Monday 18th March 08:08
Davos123 said:
Yeah need to eat seaweed/spirulina as a vegan to replace that.
spirulina, matcha, chorella, amla and soe mushroom as well as blueberries goes in my daily shake. 
I did get some seaweed for the iodine, when I took out milk, but the seaweed has gone, and the milk is back, though not as much, but double cream has entered my diet too
Harpoon said:
biggbn said:
Just given up dairy products a fortnight ago. Feel much better. Placebo? Possibly, but I don't care. I feel better. Not a vegan, or even a true vegetarian as I eat shellfish occasionally and eggs from farm chickens. But have noticed since checking labels for dairy produce that it is undeniable that we eat a load of s
te in our food...things in ingredients I have never heard of!!
What dairy products were you looking at?te in our food...things in ingredients I have never heard of!! biggbn said:
Just given up dairy products a fortnight ago. Feel much better. Placebo? Possibly, but I don't care. I feel better. Not a vegan, or even a true vegetarian as I eat shellfish occasionally and eggs from farm chickens. But have noticed since checking labels for dairy produce that it is undeniable that we eat a load of ste in our food...things in ingredients I have never heard of!!
Okay biggbn I'm really not proud of doing this because pulling up old posts is pretty poor form PH wise but you are just not at all consistent.te in our food...things in ingredients I have never heard of!! These are all from a month ago in this very thread and I only recall them because we were responding to each other during these posts:
What about omnivore extremists? I am questioned about my vegetairianism daily by people who eat meat and 'can't believe YOU don't eat meat' or try to get me to taste a bit of chicken or whatever. I am not militant in anyway, I doubt you would guess i don't eat meat, I certainly don't evangelise about it, it's a personal choice. My Mrs and daughter still enjoy eating meat, doesn't bother me. Extremists exist at both ends of a spectrum, but those trying to push their belief that eating meat is OK and refusing to accept other people's choices are just as bad as vegans in gruel and lentil knit sweaters (vegan stereotype #21)
This is not friends man, total strangers question my decision every day, but I do hear ya on the militant in your face type, and yes, that is usually Mr straw Jersey and his crew, although I did have a kebab thrown over me one night, which did not work out well for the omnivore who threw it.
OK man, I'm clearly lying. You got me.
Examples.. Buying takeaway food, buying shopping at Tesco with no meat or quorn in basket. If it comes up in conversation (I work in hospitality industry and as a trainer, meet many people every week..)
I have stated this is not aggressive behavior, more incredulous, but why etc...whuch on one level is fair enough...yet if I quizzed everyone as to why they eat meat, I would be labelled as some kind of eccentric weirdo.
But..this is all in my head. You clearly caught me out in a huge lie. Jeez, I ask ya..
Man this place is outrageous. Anyone making a point people don't agree with is accused of lying? What a ridiculous way to converse. Maybe people don't talk to you out and about because you are such a confrontational miserable git? Happy to agree to disagree brother man, have a great Sunday
Right to finally clarify this, nowhere have I said people challenge me at Tesco every day, it is an example of time and place such a challenge occurs. I have said it is more of an unbelieving questioning than an aggressive one, but it becomes tiresome. I can give you examples from last two days alone...ordered a salad kebab from a local shop and was asked why I didn't want meat, the owner found it strange that i was a vegetarian. Example two, run security in various pubs, one of which is next to a kebab shop, I was asked what the food was like, i replied don't know, was challenged as to why, and replied have never bought anything from there, am a vegetarian, cue incredulous response.
These are two examples from last 48hours alone. Of you guys wanna believe that people don't give a st, don't have a craic whatever, that's cool, I have the tangible proof of my life lived.
I once asked a friend why people find it so hard to believe i am a vegetarian and his reply was priceless, because you look like you eat PEOPLE. Maybe this is part of the problem, as a 22stone weightlifter with scars all over my head I make a fairly incongruous vegetarian?
Horses and courses brother man, good for you. Is this not a problem we have in any debate. We find the experience of others incredulous if we have not experienced similar. I find it strange that in 35years of not eating meat, few people have queried your choices, but I have no reason to disbelief you, that's YOUR lived experience. I am not exaggerating when I say diet, nutrition, choices are discussed daily in my life. Sometimes in shops, the gym, the workplace...want a bacon roll mate, oh forgot, your a veggie... I will say there seems more acceptance these days, I have not been vegetarian as long as you, dabbled all my life but exclusively for about 8 years now. Hey, am happy to accept we have differing experiences, that's what life is all about.
/my bold/
And again from today:
"Not a vegan, or even a true vegetarian as I eat shellfish occasionally and eggs from farm chickens."
Look, really I don't care what you do or do not eat, good for you for taking a stance whatever it is but you are giving mixed versions of the facts here which sits a little oddly with your apparent sincerity.
Edited by br d on Tuesday 19th March 18:07
NoVetec said:
TBF some people call themselves vegetarians even when eating fish and eggs, instead of pesces/ovos.
Am at a loss about all the other stuff, I'll leave that between you two.
I know I know I felt a bit dirty dragging up previous posts, he's obviously a principled bloke but if you're going to press a point at least be clear. Am at a loss about all the other stuff, I'll leave that between you two.
Why is this thread not called
"People who have a different opinion to me I cannot understand so will get slightly alarmed and feel the need to use my fingers on a
Hunt and Peck
attack on my keyboard"
??????
Note when I said hunt and peck it did not mean he killed his keyboard and then ate it.
"People who have a different opinion to me I cannot understand so will get slightly alarmed and feel the need to use my fingers on a
Hunt and Peck
attack on my keyboard"
??????
Note when I said hunt and peck it did not mean he killed his keyboard and then ate it.
br d said:
Okay biggbn I'm really not proud of doing this because pulling up old posts is pretty poor form PH wise but you are just not at all consistent.
These are all from a month ago in this very thread and I only recall them because we were responding to each other during these posts:
What about omnivore extremists? I am questioned about my vegetairianism daily by people who eat meat and 'can't believe YOU don't eat meat' or try to get me to taste a bit of chicken or whatever. I am not militant in anyway, I doubt you would guess i don't eat meat, I certainly don't evangelise about it, it's a personal choice. My Mrs and daughter still enjoy eating meat, doesn't bother me. Extremists exist at both ends of a spectrum, but those trying to push their belief that eating meat is OK and refusing to accept other people's choices are just as bad as vegans in gruel and lentil knit sweaters (vegan stereotype #21)
This is not friends man, total strangers question my decision every day, but I do hear ya on the militant in your face type, and yes, that is usually Mr straw Jersey and his crew, although I did have a kebab thrown over me one night, which did not work out well for the omnivore who threw it.
OK man, I'm clearly lying. You got me.
Examples.. Buying takeaway food, buying shopping at Tesco with no meat or quorn in basket. If it comes up in conversation (I work in hospitality industry and as a trainer, meet many people every week..)
I have stated this is not aggressive behavior, more incredulous, but why etc...whuch on one level is fair enough...yet if I quizzed everyone as to why they eat meat, I would be labelled as some kind of eccentric weirdo.
But..this is all in my head. You clearly caught me out in a huge lie. Jeez, I ask ya..
Man this place is outrageous. Anyone making a point people don't agree with is accused of lying? What a ridiculous way to converse. Maybe people don't talk to you out and about because you are such a confrontational miserable git? Happy to agree to disagree brother man, have a great Sunday
Right to finally clarify this, nowhere have I said people challenge me at Tesco every day, it is an example of time and place such a challenge occurs. I have said it is more of an unbelieving questioning than an aggressive one, but it becomes tiresome. I can give you examples from last two days alone...ordered a salad kebab from a local shop and was asked why I didn't want meat, the owner found it strange that i was a vegetarian. Example two, run security in various pubs, one of which is next to a kebab shop, I was asked what the food was like, i replied don't know, was challenged as to why, and replied have never bought anything from there, am a vegetarian, cue incredulous response.
These are two examples from last 48hours alone. Of you guys wanna believe that people don't give a st, don't have a craic whatever, that's cool, I have the tangible proof of my life lived.
I once asked a friend why people find it so hard to believe i am a vegetarian and his reply was priceless, because you look like you eat PEOPLE. Maybe this is part of the problem, as a 22stone weightlifter with scars all over my head I make a fairly incongruous vegetarian?
Horses and courses brother man, good for you. Is this not a problem we have in any debate. We find the experience of others incredulous if we have not experienced similar. I find it strange that in 35years of not eating meat, few people have queried your choices, but I have no reason to disbelief you, that's YOUR lived experience. I am not exaggerating when I say diet, nutrition, choices are discussed daily in my life. Sometimes in shops, the gym, the workplace...want a bacon roll mate, oh forgot, your a veggie... I will say there seems more acceptance these days, I have not been vegetarian as long as you, dabbled all my life but exclusively for about 8 years now. Hey, am happy to accept we have differing experiences, that's what life is all about.
/my bold/
And again from today:
"Not a vegan, or even a true vegetarian as I eat shellfish occasionally and eggs from farm chickens."
Look, really I don't care what you do or do not eat, good for you for taking a stance whatever it is but you are giving mixed versions of the facts here which sits a little oddly with your apparent sincerity.
Genuine mistake, I have not eaten MEAT for at least 8 years, i did eat fish for about 6 of those years, so pescetarian for those years I suppose, but gave up fish a few years ago. I do eat shellfish occasionally, prawns etc hey, nobodys perfect...but mammal meat, none for at least 8 years. As stated man, I don't preach, genuine mistake in my post, I can't see myself ever identifying as vegan but who knows what the future will bring. These are all from a month ago in this very thread and I only recall them because we were responding to each other during these posts:
What about omnivore extremists? I am questioned about my vegetairianism daily by people who eat meat and 'can't believe YOU don't eat meat' or try to get me to taste a bit of chicken or whatever. I am not militant in anyway, I doubt you would guess i don't eat meat, I certainly don't evangelise about it, it's a personal choice. My Mrs and daughter still enjoy eating meat, doesn't bother me. Extremists exist at both ends of a spectrum, but those trying to push their belief that eating meat is OK and refusing to accept other people's choices are just as bad as vegans in gruel and lentil knit sweaters (vegan stereotype #21)
This is not friends man, total strangers question my decision every day, but I do hear ya on the militant in your face type, and yes, that is usually Mr straw Jersey and his crew, although I did have a kebab thrown over me one night, which did not work out well for the omnivore who threw it.
OK man, I'm clearly lying. You got me.
Examples.. Buying takeaway food, buying shopping at Tesco with no meat or quorn in basket. If it comes up in conversation (I work in hospitality industry and as a trainer, meet many people every week..)
I have stated this is not aggressive behavior, more incredulous, but why etc...whuch on one level is fair enough...yet if I quizzed everyone as to why they eat meat, I would be labelled as some kind of eccentric weirdo.
But..this is all in my head. You clearly caught me out in a huge lie. Jeez, I ask ya..
Man this place is outrageous. Anyone making a point people don't agree with is accused of lying? What a ridiculous way to converse. Maybe people don't talk to you out and about because you are such a confrontational miserable git? Happy to agree to disagree brother man, have a great Sunday
Right to finally clarify this, nowhere have I said people challenge me at Tesco every day, it is an example of time and place such a challenge occurs. I have said it is more of an unbelieving questioning than an aggressive one, but it becomes tiresome. I can give you examples from last two days alone...ordered a salad kebab from a local shop and was asked why I didn't want meat, the owner found it strange that i was a vegetarian. Example two, run security in various pubs, one of which is next to a kebab shop, I was asked what the food was like, i replied don't know, was challenged as to why, and replied have never bought anything from there, am a vegetarian, cue incredulous response.
These are two examples from last 48hours alone. Of you guys wanna believe that people don't give a st, don't have a craic whatever, that's cool, I have the tangible proof of my life lived.
I once asked a friend why people find it so hard to believe i am a vegetarian and his reply was priceless, because you look like you eat PEOPLE. Maybe this is part of the problem, as a 22stone weightlifter with scars all over my head I make a fairly incongruous vegetarian?
Horses and courses brother man, good for you. Is this not a problem we have in any debate. We find the experience of others incredulous if we have not experienced similar. I find it strange that in 35years of not eating meat, few people have queried your choices, but I have no reason to disbelief you, that's YOUR lived experience. I am not exaggerating when I say diet, nutrition, choices are discussed daily in my life. Sometimes in shops, the gym, the workplace...want a bacon roll mate, oh forgot, your a veggie... I will say there seems more acceptance these days, I have not been vegetarian as long as you, dabbled all my life but exclusively for about 8 years now. Hey, am happy to accept we have differing experiences, that's what life is all about.
/my bold/
And again from today:
"Not a vegan, or even a true vegetarian as I eat shellfish occasionally and eggs from farm chickens."
Look, really I don't care what you do or do not eat, good for you for taking a stance whatever it is but you are giving mixed versions of the facts here which sits a little oddly with your apparent sincerity.
Edited by br d on Tuesday 19th March 18:07
Edited by biggbn on Tuesday 19th March 20:48
Edit...reading your post back I disagree it is poor form to bring up older posts, particularly if there are discrepancies apparent. Thanks for drawing it to.my attention and I shall take more care rather than dashing off brief missives in the future. This lapse is not indicative of any moral malaise in my part, just lazy descriptive writing. All good brother man, peace, Gbn X
Edited by biggbn on Wednesday 20th March 00:13
Just for clarity I mentioned The Vegetarian Myth because I think it’s an interesting book and felt its content somewhat pertinent to this discussion. I’m not “ranting” about it or forcing anyone to read it. Some people may be interested in it, but for those that aren’t, frankly I couldn’t care less.
Kenny Powers said:
Just for clarity I mentioned The Vegetarian Myth because I think it’s an interesting book and felt its content somewhat pertinent to this discussion. I’m not “ranting” about it or forcing anyone to read it. Some people may be interested in it, but for those that aren’t, frankly I couldn’t care less.
Poor wording on my behalf, apologiesbiggbn said:
Kenny Powers said:
Just for clarity I mentioned The Vegetarian Myth because I think it’s an interesting book and felt its content somewhat pertinent to this discussion. I’m not “ranting” about it or forcing anyone to read it. Some people may be interested in it, but for those that aren’t, frankly I couldn’t care less.
Poor wording on my behalf, apologieshttps://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-4805693...
Vegan and sexist
Man tax charging Vegan cafe goes tits up
Vegan and sexist
Man tax charging Vegan cafe goes tits up
Burwood said:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-4805693...
Vegan and sexist
Man tax charging Vegan cafe goes tits up
So the ones that pay the most tax, get taxed again, sounds about right for 2019.Vegan and sexist
Man tax charging Vegan cafe goes tits up
NoNeed said:
Burwood said:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-4805693...
Vegan and sexist
Man tax charging Vegan cafe goes tits up
So the ones that pay the most tax, get taxed again, sounds about right for 2019.Vegan and sexist
Man tax charging Vegan cafe goes tits up
kers 
Burwood said:
NoNeed said:
Burwood said:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-4805693...
Vegan and sexist
Man tax charging Vegan cafe goes tits up
So the ones that pay the most tax, get taxed again, sounds about right for 2019.Vegan and sexist
Man tax charging Vegan cafe goes tits up
kers Have you ever heard those feminists say they want the gender tax gap closed? https://fullfact.org/economy/are-women-paying-60-l...
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