Iceland's Christmas TV ad banned

Iceland's Christmas TV ad banned

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Cold

15,207 posts

89 months

Friday 9th November 2018
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The knackered donkey stuff is an advert for a charity requesting donations. The Icepeace advert is on the cusp of being a party political broadcast.

Hoofy

76,253 posts

281 months

Friday 9th November 2018
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bazza white said:
Although im not a greenpeace lover i do feel quite strongly about the deforestation for palm oil.
fking planet lover. You're not welcome on PH.

4x4Tyke

6,506 posts

131 months

Friday 9th November 2018
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It is not unusual to see charities' TV ads sponsored by corporations as part of their corporate responsibility policies. It is a good thing in my book that some companies are prepared to raise the profile of important issues like this; far better than those using ads to push the very products based on palm oil that are the root cause of the problem here and remain silently about the cost. If anybody deserves criticism it is those companies.

Orangutans are critically endangered and despite massive efforts are still sinking fast, anything that flags this up is I think excellent. We really need to be doing more to protect them already. Their breeding patterns mean that even if we can turn around the slaughter they will be extremely slow to recover. They nurse for years and are very slow to mature to breeding age. They are the smartest primate next to humans, tool users, they solitary and extremely peaceful creature that are absolutely no threat to people. Frankly if any creature can be considered kindred to humans it is Orangutans.

New Scientist last week said:
Orangutans have staggeringly low rates of infant mortality. They are better at keeping their offspring alive than people in most human societies throughout history.

The high survival rate is linked to orangutans’ lifestyle, which is more solitary than other apes. But it also puts them at risk, because it is tied to their low birth rate – meaning they would struggle to recover from a population crash.

On average, female orangutans give birth once every 7.6 years: among humans, it is typically closer to 3 years. Female orangutans also did not give birth until they were on average 14-15 years old.

Infants had a very good chance of surviving. Overall 91 per cent survived until they were weaned. Breaking the data down by gender, the researchers discovered that 94 per cent of females survived into adulthood and gave birth themselves.
Full article, unfortunately paywalled, I think you can get a few free articles each week if you register.
https://www.newscientist.com/article/2183839-orang...

https://www.worldwildlife.org/species/orangutan

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sumatran_orangutan#C...

Smiler.

11,752 posts

229 months

Friday 9th November 2018
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Snubs

1,166 posts

138 months

Friday 9th November 2018
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dandarez said:
Snubs said:
I struggle to see why it was banned. If the original film was by the Green Party, rather than Greenpeace, i could see it. The code for these things apparently bans adverts 'with a political end'. What political end was being promoted here? The protection of habitats and ecosystems? I don't see that as political.

We have lots of adverts on TV that promote the protection of animals, for example that one about knackered donkeys that been going on for ages. How can an advert that promotes the protection of animals on behalf of a campaign group be allowed, but one that promotes the protection of their habitat on behalf of a supermarket (albeit originally produced by a campaign group) not be? What am i missing?
Many years ago Greenpeace were well-loved for the actions they took and many donated to them. The same can be said for many of the 'name' charities, ie Oxfam et al. Today they 'are' all political. They waste money like water. Like many organisations they have been infiltrated by those with political aims. They have (like others) their own lobbyist sections.

From Greenpeace's own paraphernalia:

'At Greenpeace our political unit in the UK works with people across the political and policy arena in Westminster and across Britain. We build political support for our campaigns, produce and disseminate reports, organise events for MPs in Westminster and at Party Conferences, make submissions to consultations and take legal action if appropriate – in short, we intervene wherever we think we can best engage people in the process of change.'
I agree, but that's somewhat my point. As you say "Today they 'are' all political". Pretty much every charity going has a political lobby arm to it as that's what you need to do to reach your desired goals. So by that token you would have to ban advertising by charities be it Greenpeace, the Salvation Army, Medecins sans Frontieres, whoever, because as you say they all lobby. But, political as they might be, they are not a political party and do not seek election. Hence none of them are banned and adverts don't pop up saying 'this is a party political broadcast of behalf of X'.

So to the poster who said 'this is virtually a party political broadcast' (apologies i forget who it was); a party political broadcast on behalf of which political party? And to put it the other way around, which UK political party is campaigning for the destruction of native forests to plant palm trees?

iphonedyou

9,234 posts

156 months

Friday 9th November 2018
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Biker 1 said:
It's a load of ste, whatever they're advertising confused
You're easily confused.

Balmoral

40,660 posts

247 months

Friday 9th November 2018
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I like Iceland, I like Orangutans.

Cold

15,207 posts

89 months

Friday 9th November 2018
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Balmoral said:
I like Iceland, I like Orangutans.
I see a potential market tie-up. But with the proposed tax on red meat it might not be profitable.

mike74

3,687 posts

131 months

Friday 9th November 2018
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This being deemed ''political'' just proves who is really running the country and setting the policies.

We live under a Corporatocracy.

Hoofy

76,253 posts

281 months

Friday 9th November 2018
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Cold said:
Balmoral said:
I like Iceland, I like Orangutans.
I see a potential market tie-up. But with the proposed tax on red meat it might not be profitable.
hehe

Gecko1978

9,603 posts

156 months

Friday 9th November 2018
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unlike the advert it makes you think. Course in our modern X factor book face trial by Twitter world thinking is not allowed. hey ho

Davos123

5,966 posts

211 months

Friday 9th November 2018
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mike74 said:
This being deemed ''political'' just proves who is really running the country and setting the policies.

We live under a Corporatocracy.
Exactly. The act of banning the ad is the political part here...

Biker 1

7,696 posts

118 months

Friday 9th November 2018
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Hoofy said:
bazza white said:
Although im not a greenpeace lover i do feel quite strongly about the deforestation for palm oil.
fking planet lover. You're not welcome on PH.
rofl

Not-The-Messiah

3,611 posts

80 months

Friday 9th November 2018
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I thought it was going to be some st anti Trump thing at first, with a orange monkey fking things up and making kids cry.

Halb

53,012 posts

182 months

Friday 9th November 2018
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Mr Tracy said:
Iceland's Christmas TV ad banned for being too political, according to our advertising laws.

Here is the ad

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=3&...
saw the thread title, thought, 'this'll be good.' read the op, and watched it straight away with reading no comments.
dang, got me in all the feels, 100% true and also very...not sure if political is the right word, but very active, damn good ad, but also ultimately, fking depressing.
it's chrrrrisssstttmmmaaaassssssss drink

Halb

53,012 posts

182 months

Friday 9th November 2018
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eybic said:
I guess the fact that "Big Business" has nothing to do with Donkeys will play a big part.
well donkeys do actually run big business

4x4Tyke

6,506 posts

131 months

Friday 9th November 2018
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622 thousand hits today. clap

It was in the 8 hundreds when I saw it posted earlier.

Jazzy Jag

3,412 posts

90 months

Friday 9th November 2018
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Did Kevin the Carrot get canned due to the complaints?

swidt?

I heard he was traumatising children.

Saleen836

11,061 posts

208 months

Friday 9th November 2018
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4x4Tyke said:
622 thousand hits today. clap

It was in the 8 hundreds when I saw it posted earlier.
Expect a lot more as it has gone viral all over FB!

Mr Tracy

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686 posts

94 months

Friday 9th November 2018
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Halb said:
Mr Tracy said:
Iceland's Christmas TV ad banned for being too political, according to our advertising laws.

Here is the ad

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=3&...
saw the thread title, thought, 'this'll be good.' read the op, and watched it straight away with reading no comments.
dang, got me in all the feels, 100% true and also very...not sure if political is the right word, but very active, damn good ad, but also ultimately, fking depressing.
it's chrrrrisssstttmmmaaaassssssss drink
To Christmas! beer

and a million hits by the morning